SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[LicketyQuickety]

He was clearly frustrated.

i don't believe ur very good at tone reading players tbh.

Not when he literally complained that people were not listening to him. That's pretty clearly the reason he noped out.

people rarely listen to him. there was mild annoyance at best in his posts.

are we reading the same game.

Yeah, and you don't really get there were people who replaced out as soon as he entered the game. Given he has actually changed his behavior, which is clear if you look at what Nero has said about him, then it's pretty damn natural to want to sub out given you have changed your behavior and people STILL don't listen to you.

[LicketyQuickety]

So you’re gonna ignore the fact that I cured Pisskop?

Did you actually get a mod confirmation that Piss is cured, or did you just try and cure him?

No mod confirmation on my end, that’s why I asked Pisskop if he had something to report the next Day, and he knew what I was talking about when I asked.

There's one MAJOR problem with this...

It goes against your win con to claim infected as infected.

He hard claimed infected after he was cured. Before that he was basically guiltied by the Blair/Gobble combo.

And... don't you think that doesn't actually make any sense? What motivation is there for him to claim he was infected AFTER the fact? That really doesn't do it for me... at all.

[Firebringer]

i don't buy this narrative that it was a neutral replace out.
TSE can be pretty expressive of himself. I doubt if he had a meltdown of this game we wouldn't hear about it in the game thread.

checkmate

[Alchemist21]

So you’re gonna ignore the fact that I cured Pisskop?

Did you actually get a mod confirmation that Piss is cured, or did you just try and cure him?

No mod confirmation on my end, that’s why I asked Pisskop if he had something to report the next Day, and he knew what I was talking about when I asked.

There's one MAJOR problem with this...

It goes against your win con to claim infected as infected.

He hard claimed infected after he was cured. Before that he was basically guiltied by the Blair/Gobble combo.

And... don't you think that doesn't actually make any sense? What motivation is there for him to claim he was infected AFTER the fact? That really doesn't do it for me... at all.

It was a gambit, he basically admitted as much, and I can find the post where he says it.

[Covid 19]

Day 5 VC #4

Auro (2): Radical Rat (7341), pisskop (7366)

Radical Rat (2): Auro (7348), Firebringer (7611)

Alchemist21 (1): Nero Cain (7455)

Nero Cain (1): Alchemist21 (7552)

pisskop (2): LicketyQuickety (7370), Flavor Leaf (7474)

Not Voting (7): davesaz, Aristophanes, Hoctac, OkaPoka, clidd, CheekyTeeky, gobbledygook

With 15 alive, it takes 8 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on June 22, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-06-22 13:00:00).

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2:

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4:

Please avoid discussing the reasons a player is replaced.

It happens for s wide variety of reasons, and it can bring an outside influence into the game.

[Alchemist21]

ok piss tell us what you know as infected pls

1: that if we have an infected player, they are either scum lying or (were) town.
1a: the mod will state how many new people were infected at day break. As long as we can keep track of who was infected we can mechaclear them. kind of, we know they arent og scum.
1b: for scum to lie about being infected, the townie who was infected has to keep their mouths shut about the lie. Harder than people might think, but by no means impossible.

2: I know that I share the scum wincon. Meaning that theoretically, I should be trying to muddy the waters and et al.

3: I dont know who scum is, nor why they would want to kill me, as an infected player. My guess is it provides some sort of night power.

4: the reason why scum got 2 factional kills was because they balanced out poorly versus mountainous without it.
4a: scum are weaker than town is.

5: Im clear from being og scum. A50 is . . . not? I dont want to, but Ill set him aside for later. Lets clear him on the assumption that scum arent as devious as I am.
5a: Alchi is clear based on what he sent to me last night. And no, Im not going into detail on that.
5b: assume gobbles is clear? a tracker claim. I didnt read it tbh, did it look good, like a push or like a confession?

He wanted to bait scum into lying about being infected. In this post and before this post he’s still dropping hints like crazy that I cured him.

[Firebringer]

alchi im gonna trust ur town.

[LicketyQuickety]

So you’re gonna ignore the fact that I cured Pisskop?

Did you actually get a mod confirmation that Piss is cured, or did you just try and cure him?

No mod confirmation on my end, that’s why I asked Pisskop if he had something to report the next Day, and he knew what I was talking about when I asked.

There's one MAJOR problem with this...

It goes against your win con to claim infected as infected.

He hard claimed infected after he was cured. Before that he was basically guiltied by the Blair/Gobble combo.

And... don't you think that doesn't actually make any sense? What motivation is there for him to claim he was infected AFTER the fact? That really doesn't do it for me... at all.

It was a gambit, he basically admitted as much, and I can find the post where he says it.

Except he's still guilty based on Gobble. He never claimed when I pressured him to; I never thought he was infected. I've always thought he was OG Scum. So this is all a moot point considering I never thought he was infected in the first place.

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

[pisskop]

Oh keeper of flames, you are entitled to pay taxes and eventually perish from this earth

[pisskop]

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

im sorry, do you know my scumrange?

[Firebringer]

wasn't pisskop confirmed infected.
why is everyone suspecting him of being group scum.
what post do i need to read.

[LicketyQuickety]

i don't buy this narrative that it was a neutral replace out.
TSE can be pretty expressive of himself. I doubt if he had a meltdown of this game we wouldn't hear about it in the game thread.

checkmate

So why did he replace out as Scum? What reason would you offer me?

[LicketyQuickety]

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

im sorry, do you know my scumrange?

I know you could do something like this as Scum. So yes.

[LicketyQuickety]

wasn't pisskop confirmed infected.
why is everyone suspecting him of being group scum.
what post do i need to read.

It's literally just me and FL voting Piss rn.

[Firebringer]

i don't buy this narrative that it was a neutral replace out.
TSE can be pretty expressive of himself. I doubt if he had a meltdown of this game we wouldn't hear about it in the game thread.

checkmate

So why did he replace out as Scum? What reason would you offer me?

idk got bored of this game.
didn't have enough time for it.

[Alchemist21]

alchi im gonna trust ur town.

Good but can I trust you? You’re in my PoE right now.

[Firebringer]

alchi im gonna trust ur town.

Good but can I trust you? You’re in my PoE right now.

if u did trust me, i don't know if i could trust u tbh.

[Firebringer]

i don't buy this narrative that it was a neutral replace out.
TSE can be pretty expressive of himself. I doubt if he had a meltdown of this game we wouldn't hear about it in the game thread.

checkmate

So why did he replace out as Scum? What reason would you offer me?

idk got bored of this game.
didn't have enough time for it.

actually ur theory he was annoyed with game and decided to replace out is probably strongest one.
idk if i have seen scum replace out for town not listening but man that sure felt like scum replacing out to me.

[LicketyQuickety]

i don't buy this narrative that it was a neutral replace out.
TSE can be pretty expressive of himself. I doubt if he had a meltdown of this game we wouldn't hear about it in the game thread.

checkmate

So why did he replace out as Scum? What reason would you offer me?

idk got bored of this game.
didn't have enough time for it.

That seems no more likely than what I said.

[Firebringer]

okay i change my reasoning on why tse is scum.
he is scum because he had weird reads.

[Alchemist21]

So you’re gonna ignore the fact that I cured Pisskop?

Did you actually get a mod confirmation that Piss is cured, or did you just try and cure him?

No mod confirmation on my end, that’s why I asked Pisskop if he had something to report the next Day, and he knew what I was talking about when I asked.

There's one MAJOR problem with this...

It goes against your win con to claim infected as infected.

He hard claimed infected after he was cured. Before that he was basically guiltied by the Blair/Gobble combo.

And... don't you think that doesn't actually make any sense? What motivation is there for him to claim he was infected AFTER the fact? That really doesn't do it for me... at all.

It was a gambit, he basically admitted as much, and I can find the post where he says it.

Except he's still guilty based on Gobble. He never claimed when I pressured him to; I never thought he was infected. I've always thought he was OG Scum. So this is all a moot point considering I never thought he was infected in the first place.

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

So he claimed to be cured to Hoctac before I said anything, and rather than thinking he was actually cured you think he’s some Don Corleone with the foresight to know what I was going to claim?

I think you got infected last Night because you’ve mostly made sense until now.

[LicketyQuickety]

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

So he claimed to be cured to Hoctac before I said anything...

You mean, before he was actually cured, right? I'm NOT sold on there not being any Scum in the hood. I'm not even sold that there are not 2 Scum in the hood, fwiw.

[Covid 19]

Please do not discuss the reasons a player is replaced. In the vast majority of cases, those reasons are external to the game at hand, and we should assume good faith of others, especially since tactical replace-outs are against site rules. If you feel a player replaced out for alignment-related reasons, you may pm me, but again, please avoid bringing it up in thread as it is an outside influence.

[Alchemist21]

P-Edit: None of that is outside of Piss' Scum range.

So he claimed to be cured to Hoctac before I said anything...

You mean, before he was actually cured, right? I'm NOT sold on there not being any Scum in the hood. I'm not even sold that there are not 2 Scum in the hood, fwiw.

You realize there’s a period between Day 4 starting and my first post of D4, right?

[LicketyQuickety]

Please do not discuss the reasons a player is replaced. In the vast majority of cases, those reasons are external to the game at hand, and we should assume good faith of others, especially since tactical replace-outs are against site rules. If you feel a player replaced out for alignment-related reasons, you may pm me, but again, please avoid bringing it up in thread as it is an outside influence.

Fine with me. I am Town reading TSE outside of that anyways.