Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

[Auro]

He's actively saying that as a power broker he wants to assassinate and kidnap freely.
If he's scum then great, if he's town he's playing anti-town to my eyes.

That "red PM" "slip" was dumb, trying to neuter LQ's power when Court Officials are very important was bad.

[Nero Cain]

Would you explain those two reads, please?

but you've already read my explanation (at least the parts I've mentioned) and you called it poor. But now you are saying that I haven't offered an explanation so which is it? Have I not explained my reads or was my reasoning poor?

[Rubicon]

I will be happy to answer that question and any others you have for me after you answer mine.

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Rubicon

[Auro]

With all respect, Nero and Rubicon, I think your argument's getting a little silly.

Nero... Rubicon could have found specific reasoning of your posts before your reads poor. You could simply ask him to detail that.

Rubicon... work around Nero's stubbornness

Hug it out you two

[Nero Cain]

I'm eh on most everyone though

Arya Stark-don't remember anything they've done
Porkens-could see this as scum
Shireen Baratheon-could see this as scum
LicketyQuickety-prob town but its not hard to see him get uber aggressive when he gets wagoned
Elena Fisher-first post was scummy and the whole "im not interested in this game" could just be an excuse to lurk as scum

vota and ygrite are the 2 I think are scummist and everyone else seems meh

[Nero Cain]

rubi could be scum too

[Elements]

Vote Count 1.06

Auro (3): votato, Kmd, Porkens
Shireen Baratheon (1): Firebringer
Kmd (1): Shireen Baratheon
Votato(1): Elena Fisher
Elena Fisher(1): BBmolla
Nero Cain(1): Ygritte
LicketyQuickety(1): Flavor Leaf
Porkens(2): LicketyQuicket, Auro
Firebringer(1): Rubicon
Rubicon(1): Nero Cain

Not Voting (2): Arya Stark

14 alive, 8 to lynch!

(expired on 2020-06-20 08:53:47)

remain until the end of week 1!

[Auro]

Get on Porky Pig with me.

[Nero Cain]

Nero... Rubicon could have found specific reasoning of your posts before your reads poor. You could simply ask him to detail that.

but he's saying that he's already read my explanation for why I think vota and ygrite are scummy and he thought it was poor. He's now claiming that he hasn't read my reasoning which is a contradiction.

There is

some

heat on me. Ygrite is OMGUS voting me, Vota has laid the groundwork to vote me if my wagon grows, LQ would hop back on me in a flash (as would I onto him) rubi is just looking for any reason to call me scum....duck he didn't even call me scum b/c he knows I'm not. But yeah, he's just looking for any reason to express suspicion on me.

People I don't want to lynch: Elena, LQ, Aero, votato, kmd.

There's definitely scum in that list somewhere, but we can get them later.

i also really do not like

if he thinks scum are in the ppl he's doesn't want to lynch then he knows his willing to lynch pool is wrong so he's scum and has a buddy in his not willing to lynch pool?

[Rubicon]

I'm stubborn too, but it just grinds my gears when I ask someone to explain a read and they evade. It's not necessarily a scum thing, but in my mind if you're town, you should want to convince me to vote your top scumreads. If you think Ygritte or votato are legit the scummiest players in the game, and I'm sitting here waiting to be persuaded, why evade?

Using some dumb "gotcha" on a logical contradiction as your excuse to do it doesn't make me feel better about your reads not being artificial.

[Nero Cain]

Get on Porky Pig with me.

i might but I don't want a lynch right now as I haven't even sent in my night actions so after I do those I can move my vote.

[Rubicon]

Why on earth is Auro the top wagon still?

[Nero Cain]

I'm sitting here waiting to be persuaded, why evade?

how am I evading if you've already read my reasoning and said it was poor?

[Nero Cain]

ofc, there

IS

the possibility that you actually didn't read it and instead of using "lack of reasoning" or something similar "you mispoke a little and said it was "poor reasoning" Is that what happened?

[Nero Cain]

LANGAUGE

[Nero Cain]

FUCKING

[Rubicon]

combobreaker

[Nero Cain]

MATTERS

[Nero Cain]

and if you didn't read itr.....why not just fucking ask me?

[Nero Cain]

Rubi....


it is really


really

fucking simple


all you have to type is



Nero, can you explain your ygrite and vota reads?

[Nero Cain]

4 post iso. stark can die

[Rubicon]

sorry I couldn't resist

I read the thread and made a mental note of not liking your reasoning at a couple points. Then I posted that in the thread. Your Ygritte read is one example, since in my opinion there is more to read in her ISO than just the gimmick, and this is page 24 - I think that being your strongest scumread still seems artificial. I also thought you grabbed onto my Pork-scum ideas in the PT a little too easily.

I just looked up your votato read and I guess I thought you might have more to say about them since it's your strongest read.

[Rubicon]

Language fucking matters - true!
But so does intent and the progression of a person's reads and reactions through a game. The reads you're giving out are surface-level.

Language is an easy thing to pick on people for as scum, because people make language and logical errors all the time that can be grabbed onto for mislynches. That's the kind of thing I'm watching in your play, and why I was hoping you would give a more detailed case on those two players.

[Auro]

Auro did you give any thought to that yet. Your insights would be invaluable to me.

I have a light townread on Arya simply from her saying this.