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[Clair]

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If they keep me alive and block me, wouldn't I, in effect, get a false positive that my target is scum? Meanwhile, if they track me instead, I would get a false positive that my target is town. This is a very unreliable check so I am useless if they do keep me alive.

Yes, exactly. Scum have to kill you because you can generate a clear. If they have some other method of stopping you, we will know because they won't kill you. Hence, if you are alive tomorrow, we don't have to worry about a false clear, because we'd know that scum had blocked you or something.

Let's put it this way,

	Implication
If I get nightkilled	Nothing can be concluded from it, since scum may have the necessary roles to make me useless, but decided to kill me anyway.
If I don't get nightkilled	Scum must have had some way to stop me.

Ok. I get it now.

Thank you, Clair. You clearly understand the game better than I do, I concede to your superior senses and will change my opinion to match yours.

I thought about this again and look at what happens if I get nightkilled. Nothing can be concluded from it. What happens if I don't get nightkilled. Something can be concluded from it. Why wouldn't scum just nightkill me tonight then?

Dear Clair,

Both the post quoted and this post are addressed to you.

Didn't think there was anything to say here, I think the logic works out that scum has to kill you. If they don't then "something can be concluded from it," which comes back to the question of "Why wouldn't scum just nightkill" you tonight.

Spoiler:

Also, since you're not Blair there's no need to grovel.

[Blair]

If you weren't cleared I'd be scumreading you for this post, because it seems like you have null or neutral reads on just about everyone. Do you have a lynch preference list right now?

I think I've given several indications of my lynch pool for today.

{Logic / Zlair / Votato}

I'll also point out (because I see now that I neglected to mention it in the post you quoted) that I moved the player order around from your post to put Firebringer and iamausername next to each other because I had intended to note that I do not believe there is more than one scum between them.

If there is interest in pushing between {iamausername / Firebringer} today I would support a wagon on iamausername to see what it produced, but pushing Firebringer today seems pointless.

[Blair]

I don't like lynching a fresh replacement, but that's half the playerlist in this game right now, and I'll say I do believe Logic is the optimal lynch at the moment.

It would also be remiss not to point out Logic and Clair are both testing the waters to see if anyone may doubt my cleared status.

[Blair]

Intent to hammer: Logicalicaltist

Anyone not serious about this wagon may flee like Clair now.

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 3.8

Logicalicaltist(4)

~ Zlair(17), votato(36), iamausername(6), gobbledygook(35)

gobbledygook(2)

~ Logicalicaltist(29), Clair(43)

Zlair(1)

~ Fredrick A Campbell(43)


Not Voting (2): Blair(62), Firebringer(46)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-30 18:12:09)

[votato]

Intent to hammer: Logicalicaltist

Anyone not serious about this wagon may flee like Clair now.

which, FoS for fleeing a wagon and going to the wagon pushed by the person clair had been voting....

[Blair]

[Blair]

VOTE: Logicalicaltist

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 3.Lynch

Logicalicaltist(5)

~ Zlair(17), votato(37), iamausername(6), gobbledygook(35), Blair(64)

-- HAMMER

gobbledygook(2)

~ Logicalicaltist(29), Clair(43)

Zlair(1)

~ Fredrick A Campbell(43)


Not Voting (1): Firebringer(46)

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 deadline is in (expired on 2020-06-30 18:12:09)

FLAVOR

Guess what's here.

[GeorgeBailey]

Logicalicaltist has been shown the door! They were a:

Spoiler:

Vanilla Townie

Night 3 actions Deadline in:

(expired on 2020-06-21 18:50:57)

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 4.1

Not Voting (8): Blair(0), Clair(0), Firebringer(0), Zlair(0), Fredrick A Campbell(0), gobbledygook(0), iamausername(0), votato(0)

With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 4 deadline is in (expired on 2020-07-05 20:08:11)

FLAVOR

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[gobbledygook]

VOTE: votato

[gobbledygook]

Maybe we should just no lynch.

[Firebringer]

why the fuck r u voting.

and votato of all people.

[Clair]

No flip? That's interesting.

[Blair]

At this point, I'm open to Firebringer's mass claim. Someone knows something about what happened last night, and I want to hear it.

I also want everyone to answer if they received a friendly neighbor message last night.

The order of claims is irrelevant to me.

[Clair]

Here's my proposed claim order:

gobbledygook
Zlair
votato
Firebringer
iamausername
Clair
Blair

[Blair]

I like that order a lot, actually. Only nitpick I have is I think iamausername should probably be earlier (maybe before votato?)

I realize I just said I didn't care

[Clair]

This is actually a better order than the one I had:

gobbledygook
Zlair
iamausername
votato
Firebringer
Clair
Blair

Will start pressuring gobbledygook for a claim unless Frederick intervenes.

[Blair]

Clair, can I ask why you had iamausername so low on your initial list? Nothing in your ISO suggests to me that you were town reading them, yet you had them as the last claim before you and I.

[Blair]

Also, Firebringer already claimed yesterday.

[Clair]

No particular reason, votato / Firebringer / iamausername all feel about equivalent to me. My main concern is that if this is the order we're going to have to wait for scum to drag the claims out and potentially on Frederick to stamp his approval before people come out and claim.

[Blair]

If there was no particular reason, and they're all equal to you, then why is the new order "better"?

[Clair]

Because iamausername should probably claim before FireBringer, but it's a small improvement. I don't really care, we can talk about why after the massclaim.

[Firebringer]

I already claimed