Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

Porkens · Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:34 pm

I was hoping for more from shireen after her second lease on life

Firebringer · Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:34 pm

In post 1523, Auro wrote:So how do I read you when you fail to do anything that's AI, really? I should just ignore and never push your slot?

most people don't even think anything I do is AI so u can join the rest of them.

I got nothing for u when this wagon is meant to "pressure me" and usually I like pressure when I can get reads from them figuring out who is scum or not.

ur the only one I thought had some reason. No one else really does (outside rubicon which i already townread).

So what exactly do u think ur gonna get from me at this point to read me?

Firebringer · Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:35 pm

In post 1523, Auro wrote:Why is your conviction on general reads contingent on reading me?

its not but i get better reads when people expand on their reads on me. Which I am relying on cause the general scum pings this game is very low.

Auro · Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:37 pm

In post 1526, Firebringer wrote:most people don't even think anything I do is AI so u can join the rest of them.

You know that's false, because I've townread you in previous games.

Assume the wagon on you never happened. Do you have any thoughts on the game then?

Firebringer · Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:39 pm

In post 1528, Auro wrote:
In post 1526, Firebringer wrote:most people don't even think anything I do is AI so u can join the rest of them.
You know that's false, because I've townread you in previous games.

Assume the wagon on you never happened. Do you have any thoughts on the game then?

Nero town, LQ town, Rubicon town.

Votato scum.

Don't have strong feelings of anyone else. Kind of want to lynch Ygritte but my scum vibes are just not there much and I haven't read her posts since like beginning day 1.

Auro · Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:43 pm

Expand on Rubicon and Votato?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:55 pm

In post 1517, Auro wrote:I'm lazy?

That's a contradictory narrative since you spent so much effort in setup spec. Why do you on the one had put in so much time to talk about the setup and so little time to put in reads?

I have been questioning your motives in the background for a while. At this point, I think you deserve a vote.

VOTE: Auro

Auro · Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:08 pm

In post 1531, LicketyQuickety wrote:That's a contradictory narrative since you spent so much effort in setup spec. Why do you on the one had put in so much time to talk about the setup and so little time to put in reads?

I put in considerable time into reads... What are you on about?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:09 pm

In post 1532, Auro wrote:
In post 1531, LicketyQuickety wrote:That's a contradictory narrative since you spent so much effort in setup spec. Why do you on the one had put in so much time to talk about the setup and so little time to put in reads?
I put in considerable time into reads... What are you on about?

Then why did you say you were being lazy with reading FB?

That doesn't line up. Either you are putting time into reading players or you are not. You clearly said you are being lazy, so which is it?

Auro · Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:15 pm

In post 1533, LicketyQuickety wrote:Then why did you say you were being lazy with reading FB?

I didn't say I was lazy, you're misreading.

Firebringer said I'm lazy. I questioned that, by saying "I'm lazy?"

How do I explain it... Hmm, if you call me a piece of shit, I would say "I'm a piece of shit? Why?" And that doesn't mean I acknowledge I'm a piece of shit, I am questioning you on it.

Auro · Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:17 pm

In post 1517, Auro wrote:I'm lazy? I've actively townread a majority of this game.

"I'm lazy. I have been active"
Versus
"I'm lazy? Wtf, I've been active"

Which one seems like the correct interpretation to you?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:18 pm

In post 1517, Auro wrote:I'm lazy? I've actively townread a majority of this game.

Maybe I'm lazy...

Sorry, this isn't going to cut it. You were inferring you were being lazy here. It DOES look like you are jumping on FB pretty easy here.

But since this is a topic of discussion, who do you TR rn?

Auro · Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:22 pm

Oh god that is a super dumb misrep of what I was saying. I'm not going to engage further about that - try harder at parsing.

I know it looks easy - I'm so good at scumhunting it looks effortless.

Go read my ISO to find out my TRs.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:24 pm

In post 1250, Auro wrote:
In post 1246, Nero Cain wrote:I mean, both Molla and Elana could be town but I lack your degree of confidence.
You caught me. I'm faking confidence in too many people being town and I'm running out of options to call people scum. I suck at playing scum!

There's really no reason to say this as Town out of the blue.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:28 pm

Auro, your ISO is really unimpressive. You are just saying a lot of easy things to say.

Auro · Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:28 pm

Quick, brilliant detective work. You caught me in a blatant contradiction saying I'm lazy and I'm active in the same post. It was absolutely a correct admission as well, since my 336 post ISO has NO reads at all, showing how my play is lazy mech spec.

Porkens has also smartly concluded that my plan is an authoritarian power grab where I and my kabal of scum players have a lot of powers -- including the power of not killing any guests residing in my castle, or my scum Spy mates not assassinating anyone -- and are thus maneuvering towards an easy scum sweep!

I have no hopes of winning this

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:29 pm

Beyond that, I am just gut Scum reading you for your vote on FB.

You never answered who you were TRing. I was looking for a list FTR.

Auro · Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:30 pm

In post 1539, LicketyQuickety wrote:Auro, your ISO is really unimpressive. You are just saying a lot of easy things to say.

I do agree that I make scumhunting look effortless!

Auro · Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:30 pm

In post 1541, LicketyQuickety wrote:You never answered who you were TRing. I was looking for a list FTR.

The list is in my ISO, colored and with reasons for most of them explained.

So go ahead, since you're not lazy, you can read my ISO and find out, no?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:32 pm

In post 1540, Auro wrote:Porkens has also smartly concluded that my plan is an authoritarian power grab where I and my kabal of scum players have a lot of powers -- including the power of not killing any guests residing in my castle, or my scum Spy mates not assassinating anyone -- and are thus maneuvering towards an easy scum sweep!

Porken's doesn't actually SR you for that/those reasons. His read is based on gut or something he's not saying. The fact he later votes with you on FB shows he's probably Town. Gun to my head, FB is Town and you are pushing FB for bad reasons. There's not really a lot of AI content in this game so you saying you are voting FB based on PoE seems really off. There's a number of people you are TRing that you don't explain or explain really really poorly. I don't buy that you are actually trying to solve people because your reasons for your reads kinda suck.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:34 pm

In post 1543, Auro wrote:The list is in my ISO, colored and with reasons for most of them explained.

Quote it.

Auro · Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:35 pm

Absolutely - I only wish I had amazing reasoning and communicative skills like you.

Auro · Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:36 pm

In post 1545, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1543, Auro wrote:The list is in my ISO, colored and with reasons for most of them explained.
Quote it.

No. Why do you not want to read my ISO and find out? Are you lazy?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:40 pm

In post 1547, Auro wrote:
In post 1545, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 1543, Auro wrote:The list is in my ISO, colored and with reasons for most of them explained.
Quote it.
No. Why do you not want to read my ISO and find out? Are you lazy?

I did skim through your ISO. I didn't see anything in color.

Rubicon · Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Mon Jun 22, 2020 9:41 pm

In post 1360, Auro wrote:Two people in my PoE just aren't posting: Votato and Firebringer. Fire posts sometimes, but with a very high noise:signal ratio is how I read it; and he's pretty sharp and more aggressive when town.

I think that's a sufficient scumcase for Fire. So, let's vote him?

LQ, this is Auro's actual reason for voting Firebringer.

I understand why you don't like him characterizing the read as PoE later, but in fairness, this game state basically demands scumhunting through PoE. Half the player list is doing nothing. You would expect the scum team to keep their heads down, and avoid risky plays that draw attention to themselves - which doesn't lend itself to being able to make long, detailed cases against anyone. FB at least has made legitimately scummy posts, as you yourself pointed out earlier.