Power Brokers: Game of Thrones - Game Over

[Auro]

but srsly

votato

Arya Stark

Firebringer
Porkens

Shireen Baratheon

Pink Ball

BBmolla

LicketyQuickety
Ygritte
Elena Fisher
Rubicon

Nero Cain

is what I think you think. U r deff going to be wrong on me. Scum in fire, vota, pink ball, pork? eh..... not so sure on pork, pb needs to do shit. He's prob a p good flip today. vota sure but I feel like id you think vota is scum you should be way way more suspicious of ygritte. And Fire I only suspect for maybe getting bussed but that would mean Rubi is scum.

Take out Rubicon from that list, and Ygritte is a weaker townread.

Also you're green in the list

This was it. Green color. Context set by previous posts.
That was a lazy skim.

[LicketyQuickety]

Absolutely - I only wish I had amazing reasoning and communicative skills like you.

Nero was saying I was trying to discredit you. I pointed out I was only trying to discredit his reasons for SRing me. But this looks like you are pretty blatantly trying to discredit me.

[Rubicon]

And FWIW I really think you two are both town.

Auro has had genuine reactions throughout the game, and is putting in a level of scumhunting effort that would frankly be a little silly to try to fake as scum in this game. Also, LQ used Investigate Plots publicly on D1 which is super town and nobody can convince me otherwise.

Expand on Rubicon and Votato?

Seconding this request.

[LicketyQuickety]

but srsly

votato

Arya Stark

Firebringer
Porkens

Shireen Baratheon

Pink Ball

BBmolla

LicketyQuickety
Ygritte
Elena Fisher
Rubicon

Nero Cain

is what I think you think. U r deff going to be wrong on me. Scum in fire, vota, pink ball, pork? eh..... not so sure on pork, pb needs to do shit. He's prob a p good flip today. vota sure but I feel like id you think vota is scum you should be way way more suspicious of ygritte. And Fire I only suspect for maybe getting bussed but that would mean Rubi is scum.

Take out Rubicon from that list, and Ygritte is a weaker townread.

Also you're green in the list

This was it. Green color. Context set by previous posts.
That was a lazy skim.

I saw that. And I saw the original post was from Nero and not you.

[Auro]

But this looks like you are pretty blatantly trying to discredit me

I'm most definitely discrediting you.

[LicketyQuickety]

And FWIW I really think you two are both town.

Well I don't.

This doesn't even look like TvT to me. It looks like Auro got caught with his hand in the cookie jar and is now trying to talk his way out of it.

[Auro]

Gotta love these moments where someone comes up with the silliest reasons possible to scumread someone, I call them silly, and they say "caught for the wrong reasons"

[Rubicon]

Two people in my PoE just aren't posting: Votato and Firebringer. Fire posts sometimes, but with a very high noise:signal ratio is how I read it; and he's pretty sharp and more aggressive when town.

I think that's a sufficient scumcase for Fire. So, let's vote him?

LQ, this is Auro's actual reason for voting Firebringer.

I understand why you don't like him characterizing the read as PoE later, but in fairness, this game state basically demands scumhunting through PoE. Half the player list is doing nothing. You would expect the scum team to keep their heads down, and avoid risky plays that draw attention to themselves - which doesn't lend itself to being able to make long, detailed cases against anyone. FB at least has made legitimately scummy posts, as you yourself pointed out earlier.

Quoting to bring this onto the new page.

[LicketyQuickety]

But this looks like you are pretty blatantly trying to discredit me

I'm most definitely discrediting you.

That's why part of my case is based on gut. The other parts are valid, such as you having shit reasons for your reads and easily jumping on FB when it's never been established by you directly what your TRs are. If Nero has to do the work for you to point out who you are SRing by PoE that is not a good look for you despite what you think about that. It's a shit reason to TR you and doesn't really do anything positive to read you as Town instead of Scum. If you were Town, there would be reasons to TR you. Instead, there are not reasons to TR you and all you're trying to do is poke holes in my case against you rather than actually demonstrating you are Town. If you are Town, I expect some kind of case for why FB is Scum rather than just chalking it up to PoE which is easy as shit if you are Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

Two people in my PoE just aren't posting: Votato and Firebringer. Fire posts sometimes, but with a very high noise:signal ratio is how I read it; and he's pretty sharp and more aggressive when town.

I think that's a sufficient scumcase for Fire. So, let's vote him?

LQ, this is Auro's actual reason for voting Firebringer.

I understand why you don't like him characterizing the read as PoE later, but in fairness, this game state basically demands scumhunting through PoE. Half the player list is doing nothing. You would expect the scum team to keep their heads down, and avoid risky plays that draw attention to themselves - which doesn't lend itself to being able to make long, detailed cases against anyone. FB at least has made legitimately scummy posts, as you yourself pointed out earlier.

Quoting to bring this onto the new page.

Uhmmm... Have you SEEN the reasons he has for his TRs? They are beyond garbage.

[LicketyQuickety]

Also, why are you hard defending Auro, Rubicon?

[LicketyQuickety]

You are getting in the way of my Scum hunting and I don't like it.

[Auro]

all you're trying to do is poke holes in my case against you rather than actually demonstrating you are Town. If you are Town, I expect some kind of case for why FB is Scum

I'm not poking holes in your case, I'm absolutely rubbishing it. It's a garbage case.

You said nothing much AI has been happening this game, you're also saying if I'm town I must have some damning case on FB.

Think about it, long and hard.

[Rubicon]

You are getting in the way of my Scum hunting and I don't like it.

I don't give a shit.

The only way town loses this game is by eating itself in pointless TvT arguments.

[Auro]

I am near lock on LQ being town, and I should prolly not clutter up the game with this argument - I'm enjoying being snarky tho but I'll stop and ignore LQ now

[LicketyQuickety]

You said nothing much AI has been happening this game, you're also saying if I'm town I must have some damning case on FB.

Think about it, long and hard.

Yeah, I have thought about it. You don't actually have reasons for your TRs. They are completely made up.

[LicketyQuickety]

I am near lock on LQ being town, and I should prolly not clutter up the game with this argument - I'm enjoying being snarky tho but I'll stop and ignore LQ now

That doesn't make any sense if my push on you is fubar.

[LicketyQuickety]

You are getting in the way of my Scum hunting and I don't like it.

I don't give a shit.

The only way town loses this game is by eating itself in pointless TvT arguments.

What tells you this is a TvT argument between us?

[Auro]

I am near lock on LQ being town, and I should prolly not clutter up the game with this argument - I'm enjoying being snarky tho but I'll stop and ignore LQ now

That doesn't make any sense if my push on you is fubar.

One last reply.

viewtopic.php?f=150&t=81775

One slot in pre-LyLo makes a very dumb case on me. He votes me, and doesn't talk about anyone else, and when I ask him to consider other scumreads he says "I know you're scum, so I won't bother with anything else".
He gets run up by scum to L-1, in a plan to lynch me for the win in LyLo.
I townread him despite his play (which only consisted of "casing" me on misreps and doing f all), and dismantled the L-1 wagon on him, and

offered my own death

instead so town could sheep my read for the win in LyLo.

So, yes, it's possible to read someone who has a trash case on you as town

[LicketyQuickety]

If people can look past my initial pressure on Auro and look at how things have developed I think they will see there is actually some good merit to my reasons for SRing Auro.

[LicketyQuickety]

I am near lock on LQ being town, and I should prolly not clutter up the game with this argument - I'm enjoying being snarky tho but I'll stop and ignore LQ now

That doesn't make any sense if my push on you is fubar.

One last reply.

viewtopic.php?f=150&t=81775

One slot in pre-LyLo makes a very dumb case on me. He votes me, and doesn't talk about anyone else, and when I ask him to consider other scumreads he says "I know you're scum, so I won't bother with anything else".
He gets run up by scum to L-1, in a plan to lynch me for the win in LyLo.
I townread him despite his play (which only consisted of "casing" me on misreps and doing f all), and dismantled the L-1 wagon on him, and

offered my own death

instead so town could sheep my read for the win in LyLo.

So, yes, it's possible to read someone who has a trash case on you as town

That has NOTHING to do with this game at all.

[Auro]

Porkens/Nero/Elena, claim assassination/kidnapping targets?

[Nero Cain]

this is a bad plan that pretty much guarantees a scum win

this was actually Auro's plan - the nl part.

Why would it result in a scum win though?

[Auro]

Wrong. I never said NL.

[Nero Cain]

hence why it says - the nl