SIR Disease Mafia - Game Over!

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm kinda not reading any of the players on Gobble as Town.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why do you think Gob is town?

Because I don't think Gobble claims they tracked Piss to Blair as Scum.

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I'm kinda not reading

^ Is not even trying to represent me truthfully. You sure you're not just salty I caught you as Scum?


Fyi, I totally expect something to go wrong with this post because I am phone posting.

I hate phones.

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This is not Town Ari for anyone vaguely familiar with their meta.

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i am a vt
popcorn to whoever oka says next.

gobbles

So we're apparently on gobble for massclaim.
I think I don't like Firebringer abrogating the responsibility of popcorning.

dave, talk to me about Ari. Why is Ari Town?

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I miss ETL. She would've power solved this game by now. Did anyone have a look at her wagon? Maybe we should lynch mastina.

Like this for example. Ari doesn't have "dark" humor as Town. As Town he has light fluffy innocent humor.

[LicketyQuickety]

This is not Town Ari for anyone vaguely familiar with their meta.

My meta right now is whack! Hahahaa

Literally should be defenestrated because it means nothing anymore XD

I miss ETL. She would've power solved this game by now. Did anyone have a look at her wagon? Maybe we should lynch mastina.

Like this for example. Ari doesn't have "dark" humor as Town. As Town he has light fluffy innocent humor.

Come again?

[LicketyQuickety]

I thought that post was funny XD

Honestly LQ, I'm just here having fun meming away.

I don't think you are. And even IF you are it is coming across as different.

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I thought that post was funny XD

Honestly LQ, I'm just here having fun meming away.

I don't think you are. And even IF you are it is coming across as different.

Ya probably. I don't know what to tell you tbh

Admission is exactly what I expect from you as Scum. I also totally expect you to go, "I don't know what to tell you" because you are honestly horrible at lying which is actually a good thing in general but not in Mafia.

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I dont know why were listening this this he said she said shit instead of killing turkey.

Why is Gobble Scum tho? Are we really going with Tracker Scum? I find that unlikely - especially for Tracker to then out their results.

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or a liar to claim tracker.

or scum tracker is a completely reasonable role? why are you trying so hard all of a sudden?

Because I stick up for my TRs and I am not particularly TRing ANY of the people on Gobble including yourself.

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i feel like you show up when its required of you. When you need to redirect the game away from town-aligned agenda.

Feelings are nice and all but mostly BS.

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maybe.

we'll revisit this tomorrow when gobs flips red.

Gobble isn't flipping red tho...

[LicketyQuickety]

okay.

but they are going to flip

Naw. Not when at least half the Scum team is voting there. I'm not supporting a Gobble flip either way.

[LicketyQuickety]

gob, lq, rat group scum team.

I pretty much don't give a single shit what you say at this point because you are ObvScum.

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gob, lq, rat group scum team.

I pretty much don't give a single shit what you say at this point because you are ObvScum.

k, you're wrong if you're town, but pig headed as ever. if scum, then this makes sense.

All you can do is discredit.

You've never seen me as Scum so shut it. You don't have the slightest clue how I play as Scum.

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gobbledygook claimed infected end of yesterday. there's like zero chance he's plain town here. he tried getting cured by me.

If that's the case, he was cured by the actual healer who died last night, not you.

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gob, lq, rat group scum team.

I pretty much don't give a single shit what you say at this point because you are ObvScum.

k, you're wrong if you're town, but pig headed as ever. if scum, then this makes sense.

All you can do is discredit.

You've never seen me as Scum so shut it. You don't have the slightest clue how I play as Scum.

I literally don't care about meta.

Then good luck with your case on me.

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meta is complimentary. You're just trying discredit after discredit because you're about to lose a scummate, and it's going all downhill for you.

No, I literally think the whole OG Scum team is on Gobble rn.

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i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

It's honestly super obvious you are Scum at this point, dude. You just sat back and did nothing all game then come in in LyLo and try and win the game by having the whole Scum team voting one person to win it. Pretty obvious at this point. Otherwise Healer would have died earlier, but they didn't actually know he was healer yet.

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dave, talk to me about Ari. Why is Ari Town?

This question prompts a number of why's in return.
Why ask me? Why Ari in particular? Why ask now when we have a decent wagon on someone who looks pretty caught?

At the last point I thought about Ari, I was thinking his 2nd page iso looked vaguely town motivated in a non-specific kind of way.

I'm asking you because I want to know what you think. I want to be able to help sort both you and Ari and you haven't said anything that points me in the direction that Ari is Town and it doesn't reassure me that you are Town either. Keep reading because I detailed more thoughts later. I usually think you fully catch up before asking questions so that's another thing that really doesn't make me feel great about you. You should have been able to gather that I am not really just buying your claim given what I said early in this Days phase after you claimed. All this and I am running out of people to trust is what I said and still holds now.

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i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

It's honestly super obvious you are Scum at this point, dude. You just sat back and did nothing all game then come in in LyLo and try and win the game by having the whole Scum team voting one person to win it. Pretty obvious at this point. Otherwise Healer would have died earlier, but they didn't actually know he was healer yet.

thats why it's obvious im not scum here tbh

Not really because I'm pretty much the only one throwing mud at you at this point. One other person (I think Oka) expressed interest in lynching you. Right now I'd rather lynch Ari as I have wanted to lynch that slot for most of the game and ran into heavy resistance there at all stages of the game.

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yea, gobs has waaay more equity

How so?

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Leafy's probably infected. Gobsie's the group scum and the reason Cheeky was hard counterwagoned yesterday. I think Flavor's WIFOMing today.

Gobsie has been acting scummy from the start.

I don't really care about your "probably's" at all actually. Usually you act sure of yourself in the kind of humorous way you post. You throwing in uncertainty makes me think you are Scum looking to end the game in short time.

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yea, gobs has waaay more equity

How so?

This is never getting answered BTW.

[LicketyQuickety]

youre right.

Im not interested in convincing tomorrow's lynch

You aren't even trying at this point. All you care about is lynching Gobble and nothing else matters. You don't even care about solving the game at this point. It's beyond obvious. It's why the healer didn't die until last phase - because you had no idea what he was talking about.

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Leafy's probably infected. Gobsie's the group scum and the reason Cheeky was hard counterwagoned yesterday. I think Flavor's WIFOMing today.

Gobsie has been acting scummy from the start.

I don't really care about your "probably's" at all actually. Usually you act sure of yourself in the kind of humorous way you post. You throwing in uncertainty makes me think you are Scum looking to end the game in short time.

If you look very closely, the only uncertainty in that post is in regards with Leafy. Gobsie is group scum. But just for you:

Leafy is 100% infected. Gobsie is definitely the group scum and the reason Cheeky was hard counterwagoned yesterday. I will eat my shoes if I'm wrong. Flavor is WIFOMing today and I've never been wrong about WIFOM.

Gobsie has been acting scummy from the start. There is no doubt in my mind.

In other words, you did a complete back track. I see how it is.

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Oh, wait, you were infected a few nights ago, weren't you lol

This is based on zero analytics. It's based on my content dropping which was site wide, which is what I said a million times already. You are attacking me so others vote Gobble. This is nothing but a distraction.

It's why the healer didn't die until last phase - because you had no idea what he was talking about.

youre going to stick with this?

that despite all the collaboration, im scum?

Until proven otherwise, I have zero reason to believe you were infected based on the time of the healer kill.

[LicketyQuickety]

Until proven otherwise, I have zero reason to believe you were infected based on the time of the healer kill.

this is why youre going to die tomorrow.


we're done here, I no longer need to discourse with you.

When Ari!Scum is lynched, there will be no mistake who is Scum and who is Town.

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ok im bored lq hasn't moved over yet maybe i do vote gobbles

That's bad. Very bad.

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VOTE: FL

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i dont need to case you. ill anti case everyone else.

It's honestly super obvious you are Scum at this point, dude. You just sat back and did nothing all game then come in in LyLo and try and win the game by having the whole Scum team voting one person to win it. Pretty obvious at this point. Otherwise Healer would have died earlier, but they didn't actually know he was healer yet.

thats why it's obvious im not scum here tbh

Not really because I'm pretty much the only one throwing mud at you at this point. One other person (I think Oka) expressed interest in lynching you. Right now I'd rather lynch Ari as I have wanted to lynch that slot for most of the game and ran into heavy resistance there at all stages of the game.

also the person who knows me the least.

Probably because you're just ObvScum.

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LQ/Oka think both are group scum or one infected?

Oka makes sense as infected, because I dont believe he should ever legitimately think I'm scum here. and itfeels like he's just piggybacking.

Again, this is what Piss is doing by creating a distraction to put arbitrary pressure on us so that we vote for Gobble!Town. You would be looking to see what Gobble has to say if you were Town here. Instead, you are pushing a Gobble!Scum narrative to get votes on Gobble to end the game. Scum thinks they have this in the bag. unfortunate for them I am alive in LyLo and I am too good this late in the game to be fooled by ObvScum moves like this. This is when I am most accurate, unbenounced to Scum. My recorded record for endgame is 18/25 @72% win rate. If Town follows me, we win. If Town go for a convenient vote on Gobble, we lose.

[LicketyQuickety]

alright, i dont care anymore

Just give up then.

Spoiler:

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Listening for the silence noooooooooooow.

Spoiler:

[LicketyQuickety]

UNVOTE:

Your first mistake was voting with FL when he was pushing you for most of the game. Don't expect you'll make the same mistake again.

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He town blocc'd me though

So you would vote with him, duh.

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Not necessarily, but it's incorrect that he's been pushing me most of the game.

It's like putting pressure on you to make you feel the heat and then taking it off so you feel "good" about him. I know people who do that shit in rl all the time and it's annoying af. Like, "Oh, I found this thing you were looking for for 6 months" Okay, thanks, I know you took it and then just gave it back so I would "like" you more. Shit's easy if you know they do that already.

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Check this out Auro!

Spoiler:

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Show me where exactly gobbles "claimed scum" because I haven't seen that since I've been here.

Also he HAS already fullclaimes as JoAT, which sure, could feasibly be a scum role, but I'm pretty sure it isn't here.

They claimed infected but because that is against their wincon they only heavily alluded to it with double negatives.

It's 100% a thing.
But they could be main scum trying to claim infected to get people off their back and make us look for main scum elsewhere.

I think they are likely just infected. They are def scum either way and at this point I'll take it.

The thing is... NONE of you on that wagon are actually waiting to see what Gobbles actually has to say.

[LicketyQuickety]

@MOD Does Cure work before death?

I feel like if the healer cured anyone it was Gobble.

Answered via PM.
~Covid 19

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It looked to me like Alchemist was crumbing gobbles as his target

I asked the mod and they said that the heal will still go through even if the healer is killed the same Night they heal an Infected.

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It looked to me like Alchemist was crumbing gobbles as his target

I asked the mod and they said that the heal will still go through even if the healer is killed the same Night they heal an Infected.

Right, but the "I'm not not scum" post was during this Day phase, so either something else interfered with the cure, gobbles is proper Mafia, or he's extraordinarily bad Town.
Combined with having two other cured claims, I'm willing to bet on proper Mafia at this point.

I'd still like to see what Gobble has to say before ending the Day and potentially losing us the game.

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VOTE: Ari

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VOTE: gobbledygook

I hope we lose. This is what you get for taking my town win con, assholes.

That's not what I wanted to see...

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VOTE: unvote

You seem complacent to lynching Scum. Why is that?

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VOTE: firebringer

bleh i dont feel good about this but at the same time i feel the best about this one

Why is Ari Town?

[LicketyQuickety]

Why is Flavor Leaf town?

~Reasons~

[LicketyQuickety]

why would o possibly unvote a self voter?

hmmm i wonder


p;

'reasons' aren't hood enough

When people vote themselves, that's usually when I change my mind about them being Town.

[LicketyQuickety]

claim up of you want to save him

I already claimed like 2 Days ago.

[LicketyQuickety]

claim up of you want to save him

I already claimed like 2 Days ago.

Save me the need to scan your iso for it please.

VT.

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VOTE: unvote

You seem complacent to lynching Scum. Why is that?

@MOD Does Cure work before death?

I feel like if the healer cured anyone it was Gobble.

Answered via PM.
~Covid 19

soo, is it me or does LQ have an odd stacne regarding goobles.

They defend it on the one hand, then quickly swap to chainsawing me.

Why do you want to lynch Infected so bad?

[LicketyQuickety]

So is gobbles infected or not?

whats your stance, doublespeaker?

I think it's pretty clear he was Infected. I've never held the position he was OG Scum.

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so who should we lynch?

Ari. Who else?

[LicketyQuickety]

so who should we lynch?

Ari. Who else?

I thought you were asking me for a second.

But I mean, lynch scum, not me.

You're Scum tho.

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I think youd be more active as town.

we all cant be town, and if lick is scum then i think he deserves the win over you. he's doing an effort

Ari's narrative basically goes like this:

"I don't want to play until there are less payers" (proceeds to have horrible reads)
"I am trying now but I am not going to say I am not Scum" (proceeds to make zero pushes at all)

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VOTE: Piss

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Hactoc

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Hactoc

he's infected.

Based on what?

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: aristophanes

Ari has suddenly started to Town tell there and I no longer want to lynch him.

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VOTE: Hactoc

he's infected.

Based on what?

his posts. He'd trolling and trying to get lynched today. I mean, you could interpret it as group scum thats pretending to be infected but then I don't really feel like he was scum so to me he makes sense as an infected.

Hactoc's interactions with other people kinda suck balls tho. So there is a real chance he is OG Scum here.

[LicketyQuickety]

Here, for you all to digest. I did this a long time ago, but it shows everyone I was Null reading and below and who they CAN be teamed with with no hesitation.

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ok, well I don't really think he was OG scum so I prob won't be voting there.

That's totally fine since you were probably infected or are OG Scum.

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Day 4 VC #17 (FINAL)

Auro (0):

Hoctac (6) (L-3): davesaz (6704), Almost50 (6805), Aristophanes (7195), LicketyQuickety (7294), TrueSoulEnergy (7301), Flavor Leaf (7315)

Aristophanes (0):

LicketyQuickety (0):

TrueSoulEnergy (0):

CheekyTeeky (0):

Alchemist21 (0):

clidd (0):

Flavor Leaf (0):

gobbledygook (0):

Almost50 (9) (HAMMER @ 7319): Firebringer (6737), Hoctac (6846), OkaPoka (6935), clidd (7044), Alchemist21 (7072), pisskop (7199), CheekyTeeky (7298), gobbledygook (7316), Auro (7319)

Nero Cain (0):

pisskop (1): Nero Cain (7139)

Not Voting (0):

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on June 12, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-06-12 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2:

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity on Tuesday-Friday.

3: I'm still modding this game on mobile as I can't get my computer to connect to the site.
4:

I do not plan on extending the day's deadline. The thread should auto-lock at deadline.

Here's a key EoD VC btw.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm not but I know you scum read ppl based of wether they agree with you/scum read you and its really not that good of play.

No, I really don't. It might look like that to you, but honestly, you barely pay attention to what I post so I take what you say about how I read people with a grain of salt.

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my lvl

quicks lvl

everyone elses lvl

tchills lvl

Also, after thinking about this for a while, this kinda rubs me the wrong way all over.

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Day 4 VC #17 (FINAL)

Auro (0):

Hoctac (6) (L-3): davesaz (6704), Almost50 (6805), Aristophanes (7195), LicketyQuickety (7294), TrueSoulEnergy (7301), Flavor Leaf (7315)

Aristophanes (0):

LicketyQuickety (0):

TrueSoulEnergy (0):

CheekyTeeky (0):

Alchemist21 (0):

clidd (0):

Flavor Leaf (0):

gobbledygook (0):

Almost50 (9) (HAMMER @ 7319): Firebringer (6737), Hoctac (6846), OkaPoka (6935), clidd (7044), Alchemist21 (7072), pisskop (7199), CheekyTeeky (7298), gobbledygook (7316), Auro (7319)

Nero Cain (0):

pisskop (1): Nero Cain (7139)

Not Voting (0):

With 16 alive, it takes 9 votes to lynch a player.

This phase will end on June 12, 2020 1:00 PM EDT (GMT-4:00) or in (expired on 2020-06-12 13:00:00).

Moderator Notes

1: If you have regular weekend V/LA, you must either notify me each time or set V/LA tags each time.
2:

Please note the prodding rules. You are prodded after 32 hours of inactivity on Tuesday-Friday.

3: I'm still modding this game on mobile as I can't get my computer to connect to the site.
4:

I do not plan on extending the day's deadline. The thread should auto-lock at deadline.

Here's a key EoD VC btw.

Nero votes Piss in between Ari and Alch ftr.

[LicketyQuickety]

Spoiler: Look what I bought for a dollar at Dollar Tree (I swear Dollar Tree is the best thing ever)

[LicketyQuickety]

Is that a 1L bottle of mtn dew??

1.25 L.

[LicketyQuickety]

that is a dollar's worth of sugar rush and the accompanying fat....

*shudder*

Don't forget caffeine!

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: LQ

it was entertaining at one point but

Why am I Scum tho? Literally no one has an answer for that...

[LicketyQuickety]

Oh I am still here. Maybe I can actually make their lives worse as karma.

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I already had my daily dose of mtn. dew also oka vote is bad.

ima be pretty surprised if oka is not scum of some kind. That whole not wanting to do anything yesterday fits with a scum POV more than town one.

I'm confused by this Nero?
I could see Oka being scum. He seems like the type of person who would do this to me.

Do me a solid and full claim.

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he has. He claimed to be a super powerful joat. Can you not post unless you actually know what you are posting, plox?

Quite snipping context. I said full claim.

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i just want to vote someone and then disappear so we can wrap this one up

What do you mean, "wrap this one up?" We still have several days before the game ends. Unless you actually don't care about winning or you are Scum. Are you Scum?

[LicketyQuickety]

anyways my role is wack, im not actually vt

i actually became survivor because i targetted someone who wasn't infected

so if scum could do me a favor and scumclaim with their infected buds that'd be great, i see that you guys aren't going to infect me anyways and this game is dreary so lets get this show on the road so i can siteflake

This is BS btw...

[LicketyQuickety]

which is why ive been so anti lynching infected

i just want to lynch the fastest way to end this game i really really dont care about the infected, lets just end this game adfasdfadsfa

Or you were Infected. That works too.

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town is boring im scumsiding if scum would like to out themselves please do so we can wrap this one up

playing detective is pretty fun and is the whole ms.net fantasy but also i dont careeee

Then just give up IDRC.

[LicketyQuickety]

I wish to wrap up this game too.

Just not interesting imo

You replaced in bro.

[LicketyQuickety]

Do you guys have any idea how annoying it is for people to show such apathy in a game they chose to play?

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who cares who i targetted, that's private info

Naw. Pretty sure you should out that.

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VOTE: Hactoc

he's infected.

Based on what?

his posts. He'd trolling and trying to get lynched today. I mean, you could interpret it as group scum thats pretending to be infected but then I don't really feel like he was scum so to me he makes sense as an infected.

He's been acting like this for literally the entire game, though. He can't have been infected on day 1. In fact it looks like someone using a troll persona as cover to avoid being voted. We've already got 5 claimed/suspected infected and I cant see him fitting in there anywhere.

I'm still reading, trying to catch up, but while I'm doing that, here's a working theory for everyone: This game looks like it's been an absolute slog. A ton of replacements, generally unmotivated players, and no scum lynched. It's clear that town is on the backfoot and mafia are in a very strong position. In this type of situation, the players most likely to stay committed and stay motivated are the ones with a scum win condition, because they're winning and we're losing. So the slots that haven't been replaced at all are the ones that need to be looked at the closest.

You're basically totally ignoring the emphasis so many people had about lynching Gobble? Or no?

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maxwell replaces Flavor Leaf.

FL replaced out because I called him ObvScum and when I said that, he referred to his meta. Earlier, he said meta sucks for reading people. Also, his claim makes zero sense whatsoever.

Now Maxwell doesn't seem to think there is any Scum on Gobble. Such and obvious Scum slot should have been lynched on D5.

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Okay, somehow I completely missed that post. And that was toDay so... Guess I was wrong.

It looked to me like Alchemist was crumbing gobbles as his target, and yesterDay gobbles mentioned having a PGO shot as part of the JoAT claim. So when Alchemist died, AND we got a new infection, I immediately assumed that meant instead of that death being scum's NK, it was gobbles' PGO being triggered.
But yeah, claiming "not not scum" kind of shuts that theory down, so...

VOTE: gobbledygook

Why do you think Gobble is PGO?

Also, why would Alch crumb Gobble when Gobble hadn't actually claimed infected yet?

[LicketyQuickety]

intent to vote gobbles

Wut? Do you like, have to ask your parents permission before you vote to make sure it's okay or what?

[LicketyQuickety]

Didn't he claim that he can't infect?

Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected. There's a lot of BSery surrounding Oka that I don't particularly like.

[LicketyQuickety]

Didn't he claim that he can't infect?

Oka claimed that if he tries to cure someone and they are not Infected that they become Infected. There's a lot of BSery surrounding Oka that I don't particularly like.

Why did you take this pisskop discussion and morph it into an Oka discussion?

It wasn't "away from" Piss. I would probably lynch Piss at this point. I was just trying to show Oka is up to some smelly things and I'd rather put some pressure there before it's too late.

I just kinda feel awkward about Piss in general. Like, he's not particularly active, reason suggests he's AT LEAST Infected, but something is holding me back and I am not really sure what that is. His overall presence itt is actually not bad. He's come out and said some boldish things that I think fair him well. Still, by the numbers, he looks to be pretty ugly. The thing is, A50 was ugly too, by the numbers.

FL was bad. I felt their claim was bat shit crazy, but afaik the replacement, Maxwell, hasn't really said a damn thing about his pred and I really don't know how to read that at all. I would have expected a, "Hey my pred was weird, could we like just toss out everything he has said and call it a wash since it IS FL and all?" Still, their points have been good and I would hate to lynch a slot like that with good content. Do we read them based on the pred or not? I really don't know.

Where do you stand on FL?

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It wasn't "away from" Piss. I would probably lynch Piss at this point. I was just trying to show Oka is up to some smelly things and I'd rather put some pressure there before it's too late.

You say this, but why wouldn't you quote something from Oka, or just make your point without the pisskop-related quote?

I'll respond to the other parts of your post separately.

To show where I had read to.

[LicketyQuickety]

Plus I thought they were talking about Oka.

[LicketyQuickety]

It was in relation to Oka as per what I said later about Oka claiming to turn people into Infected upon curing non-Infected. That's why I thought they were talking about Oka.

[LicketyQuickety]

I'm waiting for someone to claim that they cured dave.

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Quick/LicketyQuickety:

Really hard to read because his posts are so terse and his reads are mostly unjustified so it's incredibly hard to follow where any of them are coming from. The way they talk about Aristophanes also pings me in a bad way - 2021 reads like a soft defense of a teammate, also notable he went after Alchemist who was pushing Aristophanes at the time. Reads list in

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is pretty shitty, none of it makes much sense. Response to pressure in 3786 doesn't look very good. Logic on voting okapoka in 3964 is also very poor. A big thing for me is that he claimed to strongly scumread Nahdia in 4051, maintained that read in 4149, but then came back in 4196 and called them town with the justification being "pressure on that slot (4202), but in between him scumreading them and townreading them they posted 0 times and no one else voted them. It just doesn't look like a believable read progression from a town player. The claim to read 3 players as scum teammates in 5427 due to a lack of "Non-associatives" is basically nonsense and I can't see where it's coming from, it looks like it was pulled out of his ass. He keeps doing this dance where he calls aristophanes scum like in 8159 but never pressures there and instead leaves his vote on Cheekytown so the lynch can happen. Then he calls out Aristophanes today in 8544 but then backs down, claiming he's started to town tell in 8558 seemingly based only on 8545 which doesn't seem to contain any sort of towntell at all? Just a wimpy self-defense of "I've been trying but no one gives me credit and I'm not influential, I'm not scum". His attack on me in 8642 was pretty much nonsensical, I think he just wanted to push my slot as scum and didn't bother reading what I'd actually wrote so he made a straight-up inaccurate claim about my stance on the gobbledygook wagon.

VOTE: Aristophanes

Excuse to push Ari!Town which is only possibly due to Oka recently pushing there. Subsequently, Ari has suddenly started Town telling. This is Scum trying to finish things off for this game. There were a LOT of places I pushed for an Ari lynch which never actually took.

VOTE: Maxwell

[LicketyQuickety]

Excuse to push Ari!Town which is only possibly due to Oka recently pushing there. Subsequently, Ari has suddenly started Town telling. This is Scum trying to finish things off for this game. There were a LOT of places I pushed for an Ari lynch which never actually took.

VOTE: Maxwell

It never took because you never had a meaningful argument, and it very much looks like you wanted it to be that way. What has he done that constitutes "town telling"? There's nothing there at all. Definitely looks like I struck a nerve.

The persistence of my pressure on Ari all throughout the game shows your wrong. How accurate can you be on just a skim exactly?

[LicketyQuickety]

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Okay, you can lynch me now. This is my solve.

Quoting for emphasis...

Spoiler:

I ignored this post originally because I do not understand it...

Where is the solve here? XD

Counting is your fwen wit dis.

@Maxwell, I'd love for you to disprove my solve seen here.

[LicketyQuickety]

p-edit: Are you serious? A list of colored names?

You're absolutely terrified, aren't you?

[LicketyQuickety]

Nero is probably Scum as well as Piss.

[LicketyQuickety]

Quit being evasive - where has Aristophanes towntold, Lickety? Where is it? Show it to me, it shouldn't be that hard.

Why don't you go look. Should be within the last few pages.

[LicketyQuickety]

I have no idea how one is supposed to read that "solve"

It's a list of who can't be teamed with whom with a confidence reads ranging from lime which means they are probably never teamed to blue, which just shows they don't have any Non-Associatives with those players for that Day but they did previously.

[LicketyQuickety]

I referenced the post before you unvoted him. None of what he said in there constitutes a towntell. But of course you're not actually reading anything. It really shouldn't be this difficult to point out what constitutes a towntell.

Look harder.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah, you're just bullshitting

You clearly never read my ISO. Or you did and you are just Scum. You didn't read my content in best of case scenarios and you got feed the info you needed from Scum otherwise.

[LicketyQuickety]

Yeah, you're just bullshitting

Like holy shit the only people who would say this are Scum.

[LicketyQuickety]

What didn't I read? Your candy colored nonsense list? Go ahead and throw it at me if there's something I missed but I'm pretty sure you can't given your continued non-answers to my questioning.

What tells you it's a nonsense list? What is your backing for that?

[LicketyQuickety]

The only reason you say it's nonsense and not valid is because you are scared of the answer if it's legit.

[LicketyQuickety]

Meanwhile in practical terms we're at 21.5 hours.
Running out of time to do anything new today.

Let's go with Maxwell. I feel pretty sure there. FL's interactions with others suck balls, his claim sucks, and the replacement hasn't said anything about their pred, FL.

[LicketyQuickety]

1. I did address the way he claimed. It once again goes to show you're not even bothering to read the game.
2. Why the fuck would I spend most of my time reading my predecessor rather than reading everyone else and trying to find scum?

You're addressing the most minor concerns I have with you and ignoring the meat.

[LicketyQuickety]

Why do you think this is important?

Because of FL's claim.

[LicketyQuickety]

Can you please tell me what your reads are right now? I need something more than this.

I'm beginning to think LQ is scum who blathered in thread making noise all game, and has been "attacking" Ari a lot (8544) - until OkaPoka swung momentum onto Ari, and then he started going on about how Ari towntold (8558), and panicked even more when you voted him. He expressed suspicion before on Hoctac and Pisskop and now he thinks Nero is scum, too; after Nero made that big solve post which was being received positively. Seems like a classic flail.

I'm not panicking as seen by my engagement of pressure on Maxwell.

[LicketyQuickety]

do you understand why people distrust this role claim?
and why it is especially suspect when claimed by flavor?
and how flavor furthermore handled it in a relatively poor fashion overall?

Yes, I understand perfectly well that he claimed in an inconsistent fashion, in part because he was infected during day 4 so it benefitted him to lie about the details of his role. I also get that the little banner under his name makes people afraid of him. I'm no mind reader but that likely helped contribute to him being burned out on mafia. I can point to a recent game I happened to spectate as a reference for his play: micro 939. In that game, he claimed vt early in day 1, then softclaimed cop, then claimed 1-shot vig, then finally on LYLO re-claimed VT. He was a VT that game, and ended up being quicklynched on LYLO for scum to win the game. I can't see it as anything but terrible play, but it's likely he was growing bored with mafia and was fucking around/attempting unconventional strategies to liven things up, and it cost him the game. He likely saw this game headed down the same route and that caused him to grow frustrated. I can relate, I just came back from a hiatus of several years because of a string of bad games that burned me out. I can't really make any excuses for what seems like overall piss poor play because I'm not him, but I'd appreciate it if you'd give me a chance to evaluate the game honestly and play it my way so I can show that I'm town.

None of that is actually AI. FL could do that as either alignment.

@dave

[LicketyQuickety]

I also think it's pretty clear there were not actually any legit reasons for FL to claim there.

[LicketyQuickety]

so is dave just stalling

Stop pretending like you are Town. We already crossed that bridge.

[LicketyQuickety]

Can you please tell me what your reads are right now? I need something more than this.

I'm beginning to think LQ is scum who blathered in thread making noise all game, and has been "attacking" Ari a lot (8544) - until OkaPoka swung momentum onto Ari, and then he started going on about how Ari towntold (8558), and panicked even more when you voted him. He expressed suspicion before on Hoctac and Pisskop and now he thinks Nero is scum, too; after Nero made that big solve post which was being received positively. Seems like a classic flail.

I'm not panicking as seen by my engagement of pressure on Maxwell.

Lol

Do you have an actual argument, or naw?

[LicketyQuickety]

The role totally fits with the theme

Only on the surface. In actuality, the role is just too complicated to actually be a real role.

[LicketyQuickety]

"I can choose to cure myself" is complicated?

More like completely unrealistic while also seeming too complicated for this setup, yes. Plus there's really no reason to claim that at all at the point FL did.

[LicketyQuickety]

@dave, would you vote Piss?

[LicketyQuickety]

@Mod: Would it be possible for me to schedule a vote to take effect later, in case I'm not online to be sure I don't miss deadline?

What kind of backwards ass site did you come from where you can schedule votes?

[LicketyQuickety]

I feel my case/reasons for keeping my vote on Maxwell are pretty good.

[LicketyQuickety]

@Mod: Would it be possible for me to schedule a vote to take effect later, in case I'm not online to be sure I don't miss deadline?

What kind of backwards ass site did you come from where you can schedule votes?

I didn't, I just thought it'd be helpful to be able to vote for maxwell, but have it set to go back to gobbledygook if it got too close to deadline. I wasn't really expecting a yes, but it would have been nice is all.

I don't think you can even do that on MU yet and they have in-game software for notes.

[LicketyQuickety]

I think youd be more active as town.

we all cant be town, and if lick is scum then i think he deserves the win over you. he's doing an effort

I mean, sure. This checks out.
I feel like I've done far more than I'm getting credits for, but maybe I'm a lil biased. lol

Ari's narrative basically goes like this:

"I don't want to play until there are less payers" (proceeds to have horrible reads)
"I am trying now but I am not going to say I am not Scum" (proceeds to make zero pushes at all)

I've been playing. I've made stances. I'm just not influential.
I've made reads based on talking with people.I haven't deep dove and I probably won't in all honesty.
I am going to say now that I am not scum. I didn't think I had to? But whatevs. I'm not scum, nor am I infected.

Like... It's SUPER apparent to me that Ari is masking his frustration to levels that are probably unhealthy here.

ESPECIALLY the "I didn't think I had to?" combined with "I'm not scum, nor am I infected."

It's like Ari finally explodes after years of being teased only it comes out in such a subtle way it's barely detectable.

[LicketyQuickety]

Anyone lurking at this point is Scumclaiming.

[LicketyQuickety]

VOTE: Gobble

[LicketyQuickety]

I am kinda really surprised we won.

[LicketyQuickety]

Nobody but Quick had me as group scum, and he was about to look like a chump if game continued after Gob flipped.

I’m salty overall, not at anyone in particular, just the overall game. I don’t even hate the idea/design, I just saw super early what it was going to turn into, and I was dealing with Animals UPick at the time anyways.

You're so full of shit.

By then numbers I had you as Scum. I also voted for Gobbles.

[LicketyQuickety]

I am so glad I came around on Ari!Town. Just had to say that. Usually later in the game is when I can pick stuff up more. Otherwise I tend to overthink everything and switch my reads for pretty much zero reason sometimes.

[LicketyQuickety]

I am so glad I came around on Ari!Town. Just had to say that. Usually later in the game is when I can pick stuff up more. Otherwise I tend to overthink everything and switch my reads for pretty much zero reason sometimes.

We came together nicely in the end!

I gotta be honest, I was almost convinced you were a lyncher variant at one point!

Indeed. It was not my intention to force emotions out of you. I actually thought you were just Scum until you said some things I think you never say as Scum. Perhaps you can mimic that when you are Scum to fool me next time

[LicketyQuickety]