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Post Post #2250 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:36 am

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Explain how the positioning flagged you?
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Post Post #2251 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:52 am

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In post 2250, Porkens wrote:Explain how the positioning flagged you?

I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.

Or course that type of reasoning can be considered WIFOM but what isn't WIFOM in this game?

A mechanical approach isn't even plausible in this setup so we need to test all waters (i.e. VCA, vibes, associations, etc) at least until we get something more substantial to work with
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Post Post #2252 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:54 am

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In post 2251, Chateau Lobby wrote:I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.
I'm also assuming some didn't even join.
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Post Post #2253 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 3:56 am

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In post 2252, Starbuck wrote:
In post 2251, Chateau Lobby wrote:I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.
I'm also assuming some didn't even join.
Exactly. But do you think the entire HB wagon is made of town? It seems like an easier place to look for clues compared to looking off the wagon.

Of course looking off the wagon later on can be beneficial once we have sorted who is who ON the HB wagon.
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Post Post #2254 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 4:01 am

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In post 1975, TemporalLich wrote:hellbooks (7) - farside22, Starbuck, Titus, TrueSoulEnergy, Morning Tweet, Porkens, ManateeDude
[LYNCH!]
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farside22, Starbuck, Titus, TrueSoulEnergy, Morning Tweet, Porkens, ManateeDude

Let's just play that the wagon is arranged in order from Town to Scum.

That leave us with something like this:

farside22
,
Starbuck, Titus,
TrueSoulEnergy
,
Morning Tweet, Porkens, ManateeDude


I'd say out of these 7, scum has a more probable chance to be on the end.

Morning Tweet, Porkens, ManateeDude

Rinse and Repeat:

Morning Tweet
,
Porkens
,
ManateeDude


But Manatee is the only red... why not vote there?


Well let me answer that:

Porkens is the ? here.

If Porkens is scum, nice move on to the next.

If Porkens is town, then Manatee is probably scum based on this VCA alone.

If Porkens AND Manatee flip town.

We get our GG with scum!MT

Does that make sense?
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Post Post #2255 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:52 am

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In post 2251, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 2250, Porkens wrote:Explain how the positioning flagged you?

I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.

Or course that type of reasoning can be considered WIFOM but what isn't WIFOM in this game?

A mechanical approach isn't even plausible in this setup so we need to test all waters (i.e. VCA, vibes, associations, etc) at least until we get something more substantial to work with
Your theory is that I’m HBs buddy?
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Post Post #2256 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:54 am

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I keep forgetting TSE is in this game
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Post Post #2257 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:01 am

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Porkens youve got the roleblock left, right?

You used doc, cop and vig?
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Post Post #2258 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:03 am

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Yep
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Post Post #2259 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:06 am

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I’m trying to decide if porkens seemingly forgetting he claimed to be targeted is AI.
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Post Post #2260 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:08 am

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In post 2259, Bingle wrote:I’m trying to decide if porkens seemingly forgetting he claimed to be targeted is AI.
???
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Post Post #2261 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:14 am

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Check your day start pms From the last few days and see if you can answer why there’s an issue.

You not being able to find it would be a big deal I think.
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Post Post #2262 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:17 am

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Sorry I have no clue. I see nothing in the daystart PMs that’s any different from the opening post in thread. Why are you saying “porkens forgot he claimed he was targeted”?
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Post Post #2263 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:24 am

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In post 1647, Porkens wrote:also, in case it got lost in the shuffle (lol) I did NOT get a card last night AND "[my] special actions can only be used once more" from morning message.
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Post Post #2264 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:29 am

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And what makes you say I seemingly forgot?
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Post Post #2265 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:47 am

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The fact that you’re talking about using your ability tonight?
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Post Post #2266 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:55 am

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I had 4 1-shot abilities. The message I got was “you can only use your abilities once more.” Since they are separate abilities, I think the one shoterizer effectively did nothing to me.
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Post Post #2267 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:37 am

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That makes sense. I'm gonna go fold tinfoil hats in the corner for a while.
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Post Post #2268 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:04 am

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Alright. I’ll put my “bingle is a godfather” hat right next to it ;)
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Post Post #2269 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:44 am

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Post Post #2270 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:07 pm

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In post 2251, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 2250, Porkens wrote:Explain how the positioning flagged you?

I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.

Or course that type of reasoning can be considered WIFOM but what isn't WIFOM in this game?

A mechanical approach isn't even plausible in this setup so we need to test all waters (i.e. VCA, vibes, associations, etc) at least until we get something more substantial to work with
In post 2252, Starbuck wrote:
In post 2251, Chateau Lobby wrote:I'm just ASSUMING that HB's buddies are more likely to jump on the wagon on the latter half when the lynch becomes inevitable.
I'm also assuming some didn't even join.
I think both of those are shitty assumptions.

HB was obviously not the endgame player on their team. If there's a member of your scumteam who is intended to die you're more likely to hardbus than softbus or avoid bussing, and I'm interested in why you're assuming literally the opposite.
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Post Post #2271 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:11 pm

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In post 2240, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 2238, Chateau Lobby wrote:I hate to ask another question thats probably been answered but how do we know that scum only has 1 NK?
[:(]

[it's been observed but not proven. So far there's only 1 nightkill that has been made that wasnt claimed. I thought i figured out why, but alas]
Hb's flip says mafia can kill every night, so...
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Post Post #2272 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:13 pm

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I think whether or not HB was meant to live to endgame or not depends on the number of players on his team. We know he had at least one. If there's only that one, they likely bussed when they saw the lynch was inevitable but hard protected until then. If there's two or three, early bussing might be a thing or one might be off. They could have refused to bus at all. If there's four or more, no one bussed. It's all pretty speculative and makes assumptions about the setup.
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Post Post #2273 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:15 pm

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In post 2245, Starbuck wrote:I'm already voting him, but Bingle's 2221 is so much WIFOM, it hurts.
This, in this case, means 0 WIFOM.

That post says:

I know Pigman very well. Pigman knows me just as well. Pigman town never makes that push on me.

Absolutely 0% of that is WIFOM.

Keep throwing that shade, though. It really helps point out how genuine your push on me is.
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Post Post #2274 (ISO) » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:16 pm

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In post 2272, Titus wrote:I think whether or not HB was meant to live to endgame or not depends on the number of players on his team. We know he had at least one. If there's only that one, they likely bussed when they saw the lynch was inevitable but hard protected until then. If there's two or three, early bussing might be a thing or one might be off. They could have refused to bus at all. If there's four or more, no one bussed. It's all pretty speculative and makes assumptions about the setup.
HB had claimed a role that died when it was used. There was no way that HB's team thought she was going to go the distance after that claim.

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