Micro 952 - The Coalition: ItGBSMoD [game over!]

[Datisi]

Vote count 1.30

with 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to make a decision. day 1 ends in (expired on 2020-07-07 13:00:00)

coalition

DkKoba [5]:

DkKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick, SleeperSoul, Clover Ebi

Klick [5]:

Klick, Clover Ebi, DkKoba, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear

Alduskkel [5]:

Alduskkel, Klick, SleeperSoul, DkKoba, Deimos27

SleeperSoul [5]:

SleeperSoul, Deimos27, Klick, PookyTheMagicalBear, DkKoba

Wug [5]:

Wug, Deimos27, Klick, SleeperSoul, Alduskkel

Clover Ebi [5]:

Clover Ebi, Klick, DkKoba, SleeperSoul, DonCorleone

DonCorleone [5]:

DonCorleone, DkKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick, SleeperSoul

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]:

DkKoba, PookyTheMagicalBear, Klick, SleeperSoul

Deimos27 [4]:

Deimos27, Klick, Wug, SleeperSoul

execution

Wug (2):

DonCorleone, DkKoba

SleeperSoul (1):

Deimos27

PookyTheMagicalBear (1):

Alduskkel

not voting (5):

Klick, Clover Ebi, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear, Wug

flavour

mod notes

• Play nice.

[DkKoba]

/hang datisi for spamming for page top :^)

[DonCorleone]

/hang datisi for spamming for page top :^)

It doesn’t count as a pagetop if she spams like that to get it

[Datisi]

shut

[DonCorleone]

shut

:3

[Datisi]

tired moderator's note:

if you're changing a significant part of your coalition, while it's not required, removing everyone and "starting anew" with the coalition (like in 1182) is

heavily

appreciated as it makes my "double-checking if the current VC is correct" time so much shorter.

[Wug]

if I was to remove clover I'd put in aldu over you

i would vote for this
but also if you put in don

[Wug]

HURT: everyone
HEAL: dkkoba
HEAL: pooky
HEAL: klick
HEAL: sleeper
HEAL: ald

[Alduskkel]

alduskkel why do you townread deimos

I don't see mafia taking a coalition off L-1 if they're in it.
Why would maf!deimos randomly change their mind on Tux here. This looks like Deimos genuinely changed his mind after rereading -- I don't see what hidden agenda there would be to this.
I liked Deimos's towncasing of Sleeper around page 19.

There's also what I said here:

I liked Deimos's posts on pages 32-34 enough to solidify my townread on him.
HEAL: Deimos27

Specifically his dissecting of Pooky vs Koba and his interrogation of Clover had a depth of critical thinking that seems pretty town to me. Also the train of thought looks like "explore the reasoning and motivations behind things, then take a stance," rather than "pick the stance that's most advantageous to me, then fill in the reasoning afterward to make it look good."

Re-read Klick ISO twice tonight - I don't think he comes up with 972 if he's scum, feels like a very townie thought to have and very out there - initial flow-train reads very cleanly and townie feels throughout. I like where he asks me to prove that I'm town to him.

972 is pretty out there but I don't see the difference between town!out-there and scum!out-there. And what's townie about asking you to prove you're town?

This tl of Aldus was nonsense and I think this lack of resonance can also be explained by scum agenda when you think of these two as the scumteam. Considering the gamestate of neither of them being included in the townblock, Tux was trying to legitimize his teammate and perpetuate the idea that Aldus should be townread.

So why did I call attention to Tux's townread on me being bad?

I assume you are referring to the "this sounds weird but Deimos' tr of me makes more sense than Tux's tr"? Scum turn down undue towncred perfectly often, since they think that it's townie to do so. Tux trying to elevate your status is perfectly consistent with you appearing skeptical over his basis for doing so.

I just think that in a scum!me scum!Tux world that interaction would require a lack of planning/coordination that doesn't make sense.

Because while I’m certainly open to making some bold moves as scum I’m also competent enough that I could very easily have faked a whole load of ~*engagement*~ and reads over the past few days and easily had you both putting me in

Instead of just skimming back through and being basically happy with who we have to go into the coalition and then hard pushing that

What, like your "engagement" in PYP?

Flip side: you had me as town earlier, why do you now have me below clover and aldus (who is honestly the worst slot in the game rn)

no u
(actually that's pooky but you're a close second)

im home now.

I want an update from everyone on where they're at for each slot at the table. I'm willing to adjust certain parts of my coalition if needed but fwiw I think mine is a winning one, if not one that helps grant a near "autowin"

I'm never putting DC or pooky into my coalition unless the alternative is no coalition at all.
Sleeper and you are locktown.
Deimos is a solid townread.
I'd prefer to be in the coalition of course but I recognize that I will probably not get that wish unless I towncase myself, and I have no idea how I'd go about doing that.
Klick is a slight townread.
For Clover, I'd like a refresher on why people find the slot scummy -- I can't recall seeing much AI stuff either way.
Wug is a bit scummy, but that's just carryover from Tux. I haven't found anything AI from Wug herself.

[Deimos27]

im home now.

I want an update from everyone on where they're at for each slot at the table. I'm willing to adjust certain parts of my coalition if needed but fwiw I think mine is a winning one, if not one that helps grant a near "autowin"

Why don't you want DC?

[Deimos27]

That quote was unintentional wahhhhh this keeps happening to me when I don't preview

[Deimos27]

I've made an interesting observation about my mafia motivation.
I think it's directly proportional to how widely I'm townread.

[Deimos27]

Mafia motivation as in the game mafia, not as in the alignment mafia.

[Deimos27]

I just think that in a scum!me scum!Tux world that interaction would require a lack of planning/coordination that doesn't make sense.

It makes sense if there is a lack of coordination, which is perfectly common among scumteams.
But it also makes sense if there

is

coordination, namely the coordination that you are aiming for an Aldus coalition inclusion.

[Deimos27]

im home now.

I want an update from everyone on where they're at for each slot at the table. I'm willing to adjust certain parts of my coalition if needed but fwiw I think mine is a winning one, if not one that helps grant a near "autowin"

Klick / Koba - locktown
Sleeper - probtown
DC / Pooky - some slight chance of being scum still, but I think town
Clover - above rand chance of town, but I'd still prefer them outside the coalition
Aldus / Wug - too scummy for inclusion

[Deimos27]

Actually I'm not 100% on the relative values of DC/Pooky/Clover, tbh. Those are mostly what I'm debating between.

[Deimos27]

I think the current coalition has a good chance of winning but I'd prefer to be included. And if you were to kick someone out for me it would be Pooky or Clover.
I'm looking forward to Klick's Clover towncase, it can maybe help me finally settle on that opinion.

[Datisi]

Prodding PookyTheMagicalBear. Please note that upon a player's 4th prod, I will begin looking for a replacement early.

[DonCorleone]

Aldus / Wug - too scummy for inclusion

yet you're voting for wug?

[DonCorleone]

What, like your "engagement" in PYP?

dude I was literally townread on play by practically the entire thread, if I hadn't fakeclaimed cop on D1 thus opening me up to farkran deciding to policy wagon me we would've been chill

like are you forgetting that there were people on my wagon who were compromising because "ehh don't think DC will flip scum but probably better than X because of PR and they've claimed VT now"

if you're talking about my engagement dropping off partially in mid-D2... okay? how is that relevant?

[Clover Ebi]

HURT: all
HEAL: Klick, Clover Ebi, DkKoba, SleeperSoul, PookyTheMagicalBear

[Clover Ebi]

I find it hard to carry on a conversation with this game. I mostly feel exhausted of most things said and feel the need to move on and see if we win or if we have new information to work with. We all seem to mostly agree with 3/4 slots and find a few slots scummy.

[DkKoba]

im home now.

I want an update from everyone on where they're at for each slot at the table. I'm willing to adjust certain parts of my coalition if needed but fwiw I think mine is a winning one, if not one that helps grant a near "autowin"

Why don't you want DC?

because they come off as exhausted scum to me who just made a last ditch effort to get included

[DonCorleone]

im home now.

I want an update from everyone on where they're at for each slot at the table. I'm willing to adjust certain parts of my coalition if needed but fwiw I think mine is a winning one, if not one that helps grant a near "autowin"

Why don't you want DC?

because they come off as exhausted scum to me who just made a last ditch effort to get included

:rolleyes:

[DonCorleone]

I would have hard bussed my partner by now if I were scum