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Post Post #1525 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:28 pm

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-pation

damn you reck. that worked out pretty well though because it got an extra person to commit to the wagon so.

farewell sweet porkens. why did you have to do such a dumb thing.
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Post Post #1526 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:29 pm

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CLAP or Gamma
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Post Post #1527 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:30 pm

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In terms of bus potential.

I liked VP’s Morning Tweet case at least in the sense that it was using associatives off a known flip. That gets me all riled up.
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Post Post #1528 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:31 pm

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In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
this tbh
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Post Post #1529 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:31 pm

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In post 1525, Untrod Tripod wrote:arewell sweet porkens. why did you have to do such a dumb thing
lol at scum having to off Porkens after D1 because he was confirmed town
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Post Post #1530 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:33 pm

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I'm so sorry, Porkens.

And I'm totally not sorry, farside, even if I heart you.
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Post Post #1531 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:34 pm

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In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
So I'm working out a couple ISOs, but Auro's reaction to Llamarble pushing on him was similar to Farside pushing on him (and doesn't line up with other pushes on him that I've observed so far). Auro had a habit of choosing specific people to engage with fiercely that were voting him, while otherwise not really pushing against others (myself being the latter category).
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Post Post #1532 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:34 pm

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In post 1527, Green Crayons wrote:In terms of bus potential.

I liked VP’s Morning Tweet case at least in the sense that it was using associatives off a known flip. That gets me all riled up.
I'm still about a Morning Tweet wagon.

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Post Post #1533 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:35 pm

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so do you think the ABR counterwagon was all town?
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Post Post #1534 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:42 pm

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wow, are scum even trying?

pathetic.

i feel sorry for them. i almost want to sacrifice a townie today to make them feel better.
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Post Post #1535 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:47 pm

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I also am leaning towards an MT vote today
Untrod Tripod wrote:so do you think the ABR counterwagon was all town?
I'd be pretty unsurprised? It was a bad wagon, but one that was unlikely to actually murderize the person it was going after, and Blair and Puppy both lean town to me.
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Post Post #1536 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 2:54 pm

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In post 1528, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
this tbh
what happened to you coming after me today :(
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Post Post #1537 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:05 pm

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petition to kick up our feet and have a relaxing day culling the lurkers.

plz respond

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Post Post #1538 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:07 pm

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I feel like I have at least an ok reason to think everyone's town except MT

whereas MT the only reason I can think of is that she played really well in her last scum game and her waffling a bunch on Auro d1 and not really showing up with much when farside/Porkens happened is...not that.

I guesss I don't really have a town read on Kmd either? But his back and forth with ABR day 1 felt fine to me. Do want to hear his thoughts now since now we've basically had two scum flips since the last time he had time to contribute much.
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culling I dunno if it's necessary
but we can all have a nice chill and give them time and space to talk and spread their theoretical townwings
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Post Post #1539 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:07 pm

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In post 1536, Untrod Tripod wrote:
In post 1528, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
this tbh
what happened to you coming after me today :(
it has been delayed due to COVID-19
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Post Post #1540 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:08 pm

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that's a compelling argument hoopla
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Post Post #1541 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:13 pm

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In post 1528, xRECKONERx wrote:
In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
this tbh
Why do you two suspect Puppy btw, is it just him joining the ABR wagon? He doesn't seem like he's been doing things that would actually help scum at all imo since mid d1 when he hopped on Auro.
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Post Post #1542 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:13 pm

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i can read CLAP's iso and point out posts that feel weird to me if u want
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Post Post #1543 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:14 pm

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In post 1542, xRECKONERx wrote:i can read CLAP's iso and point out posts that feel weird to me if u want
ya that'd be good
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Post Post #1544 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:15 pm

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In post 1542, xRECKONERx wrote:i can read CLAP's iso and point out posts that feel weird to me if u want
I'd appreciate that given you stole my thunder on hammering a scum
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Post Post #1545 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:16 pm

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iamausername also needs more scrutiny.

who feels like impressing me by investigating his slot? BIG town points on offer to any intrepid reporter.
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Post Post #1546 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:32 pm

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In post 1545, Hoopla wrote:iamausername also needs more scrutiny.

who feels like impressing me by investigating his slot? BIG town points on offer to any intrepid reporter.
so having reread the slot, during day 1 they started on the two currently flipped scum slots with a scumread of Auro for basically posting a shitton without saying anything
In post 363, iamausername wrote:in fact UNVOTE: VP Baltar
VOTE: Auro

how can it be that he has posted six full length novels in this thread and i still have no idea why he is voting GC?
and also said that farside was town for seeming "genuine"
In post 396, iamausername wrote:farside - the questions she has been asking feel like genuine efforts to try to get reads on people.
iam talks themselves out of an auro vote here
In post 544, iamausername wrote:UNVOTE: Auro
VOTE: VP Baltar

lost my taste for the Auro wagon right around .

in other news, AGar has now thoroughly ingratiated himself into my town reads - can't imagine coming from scum - there are clear benefits for scum to not alerting everyone to the source of the misunderstanding, pretty much regardless of Blair/Starbuck alignments.
given that he had established suspicion of VP early, this feels like a natural progression to me. it's weak as hell and a chainsaw of a scumbuddy, but being wrong is not in and of itself a scumtell and this one doesn't exactly come out of nowhere.

so this next post bothers me a lot
In post 1082, iamausername wrote:still here, still prefer VPB but it's not like i'm super sold on Auro as town (or on VPB as scum for that matter) and i mostly just want this day to be over with.

my reads look like this now.

confident townreads:
1) AGar
6) farside22
8) Hoopla
13) Porkens
14) Starbuck

less confident townreads:
2) Albert B. Rampage
3) Auro
7) Green Crayons
10) Kmd4390
11) Llamarble
12) Morning Tweet
15) Untrod Tripod
17) xRECKONERx

null reads:
4) Blair
5) CantLynchAPuppy
16) VP Baltar
mostly I can't understand just NOT HAVING any scum reads at that point. also, puts the two flipped scum in the town pile.

this posts comes on day 2
In post 1360, iamausername wrote:huh.

for the record, before Starbuck dropped her revelation, i was thinking a lynchpool of {Blair, Puppy, Morning Tweet, iamausername} was a very reasonable way for the day to go, following yesterday's events, with Blair being the choice from that pool that i'd be backing. i reread overnight in light of Auro's flip, and Blair very much comes off as scum expecting the day to drift inexorably to a VP Baltar lynch and panicking when ABR pulled the rug out from under her.

but with a lynchpool of {Porkens, farside, Starbuck} i don't know where to go, because all of them read as town to me, before and after the flip. if i had to pick right now i'd probably vote farside because i remember less clearly
why
i thought she was town, but i'm gonna isoread the three of them first.
I don't like it because the prescriptive nature of "oh, I guess I'm a reasonable lynch" seems.... vaguely scummy to me. I don't know, a big mea culpa where none was really warranted and no pressure was on him. assuming scumreads on yourself feels scummy to me.

also, I really don't like the flip on farside given she was in his strongest townread pile, especially given the "oh I don't know why I was townreading this". I don't get having a strong townread with no actual reason. feels like post hoc reasoning.
In post 1490, iamausername wrote:
In post 1487, Green Crayons wrote:because farside claiming a VT with pro-scum information seems like a bad scum strategy
so does claiming VT when you are in fact a mafia tracker, and yet here we are
this post struck me as *extremely* scummy at the time but I didn't want to say anything because I don't like to let scum know I see them.

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anyway, I'm in favor of yeeting iamausername

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Post Post #1547 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:40 pm

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In post 1526, Green Crayons wrote:CLAP or Gamma
What's the case on either really?

I see Agars post on gamma's slot, but is that it?
In post 1532, Starbuck wrote:
In post 1527, Green Crayons wrote:In terms of bus potential.

I liked VP’s Morning Tweet case at least in the sense that it was using associatives off a known flip. That gets me all riled up.
I'm still about a Morning Tweet wagon.

Hell, I'll even start it.

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Yerp, all about that life.

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In post 1545, Hoopla wrote:iamausername also needs more scrutiny.

who feels like impressing me by investigating his slot? BIG town points on offer to any intrepid reporter.
ooo ooo, I'm a reporter! If by investigate his slot, you mean review his iso, I'm eager to do that. I have some notes on my computer after D1. It just wasn't as compelling as the MT case, who is def the right purge (this is the new word I'm using!) today. I'll grab that IAAU stuff next time I'm on a PC though
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Post Post #1548 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:41 pm

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In post 1547, VP Baltar wrote:you mean review his iso, I'm eager to do that. I have some notes on my computer after D1.
love to see what you have to add to the post above. I found a few things just doing a quick skim. maybe we can go 3 for 3
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Post Post #1549 (ISO) » Fri Jul 03, 2020 3:42 pm

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saucy post, UT.

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