Silent Star 1: Lunacy

[Raven Branwen]

I dunno. maybe but no one else is claiming to be partners with either Nahdia or Tux, so without a cc, I think it’s more likely he isn’t lying. As Dunn correctly pointed out, all of the werewolves were wrongly playing their scimgames. I initially tr Clover because I also typically have too many trs on D1 but now I recall that in a recent game I played with him, he had several detailed readslists, so my Clover tr might have been premature.

I have a bit of a townlean on Dunn for the way he kept correcting me. It was very clearly logically based and agreeing with my readslist minus Clover sounds like town!Dunn to me.

What gives me pause about MWB is his consistent tr on Star/votato. He stayed on Dunn eventhough Star was trying to get him executed and the fact that Nahdia jumped on him, makes me think he might actually be telling the truth about being a lone werewolf.

So, my current PoE other than of course Nahdia is Dru/Clover and outside chance of MWB.

Raven
Skitter
Kanna
Morning Tweet
beeboy
Tux (for mech reasons)
Dunn
MWB
Clover/Dru
Nahdia

[Morning Tweet]

Well i mean if they were paired with Star and lilith, no one could call Tux out on this lie.

But if Nahdia and Tux are truthfully in a hood together, then that makes me think Tux is town since Nahdia clearly had access to the wolf flavour and why would it be there if there werent a wolf in the hood to trick? Suppose it could be Nahdia + Clover/Dru then

[Raven Branwen]

Well i mean if they were paired with Star and lilith, no one could call Tux out on this lie.

But if Nahdia and Tux are truthfully in a hood together, then that makes me think Tux is town since Nahdia clearly had access to the wolf flavour and why would it be there if there werent a wolf in the hood to trick? Suppose it could be Nahdia + Clover/Dru then

That’s a good point and why I don’t have him higher on my list, because I’m mainly tr him for mech reasons - claiming to be Nahdia’s partner.

It’s not typical for Clover not to have reads but I’m still way more suspicious about Dru having given no reads on anyone else in the game other than Kanna/bee/Skitter and no trs. I also think that Dru looked more like a Nahdia buddy than Clover. One thing in Dru’s favour was being the first one to claim werewolf. I will re-ISO Nahdia tomorrow but I was never really a fan of her Kanna push but if Kanna thinks she’s town, I’ll trust that read over mine but I think it’s really weird that she has given no reads on anyone else in the game. It’s also possible Clover didn’t give reads because like the rest of us, he also wrongly thought he was scum. Skitter, bee and you are spewed as not-Nahdia buddies, despite my other reasons for tr your slots.

So my confident werewolf core is Skitter/Kanna/you/beeboy.

[Raven Branwen]

Well i mean if they were paired with Star and lilith, no one could call Tux out on this lie.

But if Nahdia and Tux are truthfully in a hood together, then that makes me think Tux is town since Nahdia clearly had access to the wolf flavour and why would it be there if there werent a wolf in the hood to trick? Suppose it could be Nahdia + Clover/Dru then

That’s a good point and why I don’t have him higher on my list, because I’m mainly tr him for mech reasons - claiming to be Nahdia’s partner.

It’s not typical for Clover not to have reads but I’m still way more suspicious about Dru having given no reads on anyone else in the game other than Kanna/bee/Skitter and no trs. I also think that Dru looked more like a Nahdia buddy than Clover. One thing in Dru’s favour was being the first one to claim werewolf. I will re-ISO Nahdia tomorrow but I was never really a fan of DRU’s Kanna push but if Kanna thinks she’s town, I’ll trust that read over mine but I think it’s really weird that she has given no reads on anyone else in the game. It’s also possible Clover didn’t give reads because like the rest of us, he also wrongly thought he was scum. Skitter, bee and you are spewed as not-Nahdia buddies, despite my other reasons for tr your slots.

So my confident werewolf core is Skitter/Kanna/you/beeboy.

[Dunnstral]

Star likely thought she was anti-town when she made that list

Anyone on that list you think isn’t likely to be town?

Clover Ebi

Why?

Their posting doesn't feel like it's changed from day 1

Like they went scum -> scum
instead of scum -> town

And they're pushing Beeboy/Me as a group of 2 and thepush feels fake

And interactions with their own partner looks bad

And their general reactions to events, like "let's leave both of the cops alive", is really bad. They don't seem surprised that they're actually town

[drusilla]

I think if we logically assume that Tux is likely town because Hectic probably wouldn’t put two scum in the same PT, than I think this is a good place to start.

lilith and starbuck are unlikely to have been paired together, so the mafia were likely paired with lilith and starbuck and then claimed eachother.

I think Skitter and I are actually masons based on both the wording of my role pm and Hectic posting right in our PT that we’re werewolves but even if that weren’t the case, she’s been working with me the entire game. Tux mainly for mech reasons.

This seem familiar?

this seems particularly notable because the way skitter seemed not to have thought she and raven branwen were masons before i asked her if she had reason to assume they weren't.

@Drusilla, what are you reads outside of yesterday positioning Bee/Kanna/Skitter as the scumteam?

my reads from yesterday are meaningless as i thought i was part of a two-person scumteam. i have been very clear about my reads today:

there are three mafia either way. either the mafia are nahdia/tuxedo + one of the impure pair, or nahdia + the pure pair.

nahdia/tuxedo mask/clover ebi or nahdia/dunnstral/beeboy seem the most likely to me, with much more weight on the first.

See my issue is I think someone in your pair is setting up to pile drive our pair the following phase.
I just can't tell if it's you Clover or Drusilla, because it has to be one of you.

And unlike day 1 I am no longer content just sitting without good scum reads lol.

this doesn't make sense to me. because i currently feel very strongly that it is correct to eliminate tuxedo mask tomorrow. if tuxedo mask is a werewolf, however, then clover ebi is also very likely to be a werewolf and to me right now you are the most likely pair in that situation. you saying you are likely to be aligned does not sway me away from this because in that situation you are also aligned.

Note: Mafia tried to hammer themself, ending the day early

do you think it is most likely nahdia/tuxedo mask/clover ebi?

Yes that is where I am currently leaning. I'm not certain on Tux being scum or mafia being informed of things like I saw in a recent game

excellent i am as well.

it is frustrating to me that most people seem to be working from my general framework for solving the game but are still scumreading me.

nahdia is all but confirmed mafia. the logical elimination is then tuxedo mask.
if tuxedo mask is mafia, then we are likely looking for one mafia in the other pairs. i think this would most likely be clover ebi or you.
if tuxedo mask is a werewolf, then we are still looking for a claimed pair. before you began posting today i thought that claimed pair would most likely be beeboy/dunnstral. now i believe it is more likely to be you/skitter.

[drusilla]

to demonstrate visually:

morning tweet - kanna

midwaybear

drusilla

- clover ebi
dunnstral - beeboy
skitter - raven branwen

nahdia

- tuxedo mask

so nahdia>tuxedo mask
if tuxedo mask is mafia>clover ebi>raven branwen
if tuxedo mask is a werewolf>raven branwen
if raven branwen is mafia>skitter
if raven branwen is a werewolf>beeboy

[drusilla]

and we potentially get additional information along the way!

[skitter30]

Raven is a ww tho !

[drusilla]

Raven is a ww tho !

it is so hard for me to understand her mindset here. like she is stressing that her read of kanna yesterday has some relevance and that my reads yesterday meant something and none of it makes sense.

[skitter30]

Yeah idk

But in the pt she very obviously and very clearly thought we were a bizarro 2man scumteam. So like if she was actually mafia and duping me ... i dont think she would have approached the pt the way she did

[Kanna]

I want to vouch for drusilla! I can see her townie heart. And obviously I trust Morning.

I think this spews skitter town and she vouches for Raven so i think that’s also ok...

Alrighty,

I got rolecopped.

Same claim; skitter is a werewolf.

Beeboy/Dunnstral I feel should be town although those are my weak townreads

I just realised that partner-partner play isn’t that significant since a potential mafia pair of paired together would’ve been playing like mafia anyway? Pairs which don’t have good chemistry are more likely to contain one mafia though since I’d think they’d be more invested in their wincon. Pairs with good chemistry are either pure or both mafia(?) Except i still think Nahdia/Tux make sense as a mafia/mafia couple hm

<Tux, Clover, Midway>

I agree Tux is probably the next elimination. Clover/Midway are a tossup

@Drusilla; why is Midway clear? What’s not to say Midway is not scum who killed their partner and forced to claim solo?

[skitter30]

Are we trying to do anything else today?
I'm kinda fine just voting out nahdia

[drusilla]

@Drusilla; why is Midway clear? What’s not to say Midway is not scum who killed their partner and forced to claim solo?

i really think his beginning of the day interactions with me come from a werewolf.

if midwaybear was paired with lilith/starbuck who was the other of lilith/starbuck paired with?

if tuxedo mask is mafia>clover ebi>raven branwen

this is the only world in which midwaybear possibly makes sense to me as mafia and there is room to add him if i am calculating correctly.

[Kanna]

actually (mostly) disregard the last part, i was just thinking of a scenario where scum would pivot between partner choices, but that doesn't matter. still, i think midway isn't clear unless you cleared him because of a strong townread.

this is very possible:

morning tweet - kanna
drusilla - clover ebi
dunnstral - beeboy
skitter - raven branwen

nahdia

- lilith

tuxedo mask

- starbuck

midwaybear

[Clover Ebi]

VOTE: Nahdia

[Clover Ebi]

I've never played with Raven before this game by the way. So I have no idea what she's on about. However, I don't have much else to really say about this game in general I've hit a dead end so I'll lurk in my pt until needed/wanted

[skitter30]

are we waiting for anything else or should i vote ?

[Nahdia]

Taken to General Howe's headquarters (commander of the British forces) in New York, the young spy was interrogated and executed on September 22. Word of the execution was brought to General Washington's headquarters shortly after by a British officer carrying a flag of truce. ...who is pulling the strings?

[skitter30]

i think nahdia is trying to communciate with someone through these posts. I think that part of the team they weren't in communication with

still think this ^

[midwaybear]

maybe, but that is really risky

[beeboy]

I have day talk in my werewolf factional PT, feel like the mafia have it as well.
Anyway yeah just end the day.

[beeboy]

I have day talk in my werewolf factional PT, feel like the mafia have it as well.
Anyway yeah just end the day.

[midwaybear]

VOTE: Nahdia

[skitter30]

yeah it just seems like they're trying to communicate with someone who isn't in a pt with them
but yeah

VOTE: nahdia

i'm not sure what the vote is at