Grand Idea GPick [Game Over]

TrueSoulEnergy · Post Post #2650 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:38 pm

[redacted]

ISO · Post Post #2651 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:39 pm

Hayasaka replaces TrueSoulEnergy.

farside22 · Post Post #2652 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:41 pm

I mean you can lynch me if you want. My alignment is random per set up but im town so you know what i think and i stopped caring about this game since i went back to work. And lack of info.

Im just going on if the player is alien and look at imteractions from there.

ISO · Post Post #2653 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:46 pm

VC 8.3

Hayasaka (1) - Chateau Lobby [E-2]

Chateau Lobby (1) - Hayasaka [E-2]

Not voting: Morning Tweet, Iconeum, farside22

With 5 alive it takes 3 to eliminate.

Day 8 will end in (expired on 2020-07-20 18:30:00) or when an elimination is reached.

farside22 · Post Post #2654 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:49 pm

So if its alien the id say tse based bingle interaction. bingle never wanted to vote titus nor did he vote tse.
Not really a fan of either tse or cl gameplay and wouldn't be surprised if they were both some type of scum.

Hayasaka · Post Post #2655 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:51 pm

Why do I have red cards and a village role pm?
What are cards I don't understand.

Hayasaka · Post Post #2656 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:52 pm

UNVOTE:

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2657 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:54 pm

[A village?]

[Don't worry about the cards they're not important anymore]

Hayasaka · Post Post #2658 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:56 pm

In post 2657, Morning Tweet wrote:[A village?]

[Don't worry about the cards they're not important anymore]

The green one that wants to kill mafia.

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2659 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 12:58 pm

[Oh.]

[There was someone on the mafia that handed out red, yellow, and blue cards. They're not alignment related. Also that person is dead now so those cards are outdated anyway.]

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2660 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:00 pm

In post 2646, Iconeum wrote:now the main issue with the role is that there is no allignment attached to it in the big thread

[Oh i totally missed how there's no alignment attached to it this whole time LOL]

[Damn it]

farside22 · Post Post #2661 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:13 pm

In post 2655, Hayasaka wrote:Why do I have red cards and a village role pm?
What are cards I don't understand.

What did you get besides the cards? What is your role?

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2662 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:16 pm

Spoiler: Alien Analysis

In post 837, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 2.9Chateau Lobby (5) -
ManateeDude
,
boring
, TrueSoulEnergy, farside22,
Titus

Titus
(2) -
Hoctac
,
Saladman27

Two Girls One Vote
(2) -
Iconeum
,
Ircher

Saladman27
(2) -
Battle Mage
,
Chemist1422

boring
(2) -
Two Girls One Vote
,
hellbooks

farside22 (1) -
Quick

Battle Mage
(1) -
Doctor Drew

Not voting:
Pigman
, Chateau Lobby

Early on in the game there was a push against Chateau. An alien was on his wagon, however, there was also an alien voting for another alien here too. Could be an early distancing play. Titus' vote on Chateau was also a naked vote (Although she was dealing with depression at the time).

Here's her comment on CL prior:

In post 663, Titus wrote:If Chateau keeps his vote on Quick or does not additional hunting, I might vote there but MD wants it.

In post 901, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 2.11Chateau Lobby (5) -
ManateeDude
,
boring
, farside22,
Doctor Drew
,
Quick

Two Girls One Vote
(5) -
Iconeum
,
Ircher
, Chateau Lobby,
Titus
,
Pigman

Titus
(2) -
Hoctac
,
Saladman27

Saladman27
(2) -
Battle Mage
, Chemist1422

boring
(2) -
Two Girls One Vote
,
hellbooks

farside22 (1) - TrueSoulEnergy

Not voting:

The wagons are gaining lynch pressure. Titus decides she likes the 2G 1V wagon better and moves her vote.

She spends multiple posts justifying this choice. Here's two:

In post 869, Titus wrote:
In post 866, Quick wrote:
In post 864, Titus wrote:VOTE: Two Girls One Vote
For what reason? Do tell Titus.
Two Girls only seems to be here when pressured. I don't find anything they say memorable.
The people defending Two Girls I have as suspects for being a third party or scum themselves.
I townread the people pushing Two Girls.

In post 872, Titus wrote:
In post 871, Quick wrote:
In post 869, Titus wrote:
In post 866, Quick wrote:
In post 864, Titus wrote:VOTE: Two Girls One Vote
For what reason? Do tell Titus.
Two Girls only seems to be here when pressured. I don't find anything they say memorable.
The people defending Two Girls I have as suspects for being a third party or scum themselves.
I townread the people pushing Two Girls.
Okay, that doesn't mean Two Girls is actually Scum though. Guilty by assaociation? You can do better than that.
The first two comments are not "guilt by association". Being present only when pressured and lacking memorable content are not associative indicators.

I am willing to take a backseat when a) I don't have the energy to drive, b) the wagons I want most are vetoed and c) the lynch being pushed isn't bad.

Just don't claim things that aren't true about my play and say I can do better.

In post 1334, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 3.2
Titus
(4) -
hellbooks
, TrueSoulEnergy,
Ircher
,
Battle Mage
[E-3]

Ircher
(4) -
Bingle
,
Titus
,
boring
, farside22 [E-3]
Chateau Lobby (1) -
ManateeDude

Not voting: Chemist1422,
Starbuck
,
Pigman
,
Doctor Drew
,
Iconeum
, Chateau Lobby

Here is day three. This is when TSE and BM tag teamed on wanting Titus killed, or at least one of those times anyway.

Bingle and Titus both of course wanted not Titus killed. TSE of course chose Titus. Farside chose Ircher, as Titus was a huge gut town read for her.

What did Chateau have to say the on the matter?

In post 1378, Chateau Lobby wrote:I think I'm playing a totally different game here than everyone else. I thought ircher was our only obvtown?

In post 1430, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 1424, boring wrote:
In post 1423, Ircher wrote:Main thing would be the way Bingle's pushing the card claiming. It's not a great strategy; it's a huge waste of space, time, and effort; and it gives him a way to look busy without actually doing much. His primary scumread is on me because Bingle subscribes to the theory that anyone who thinks Bingle's ideas with regards to the cards is wrong is scum trying to keep town from abusing it when in reality, it's not really abusable at all, and most of the effects directly benefit scum anyway.
Okay. I think I'm grasping your train of thought. How is this very different from your D1 claim that we should share our page numbers?
And what exactly does "abusable by town" mean?

Oh now I get the SRs on ircher. I guess IRcher's bracket ranking things are also "gives him a way to look busy without actually doing much."

And no, I haven't done much this game either so maybe I shouldn't judge ircher on this but it feels like it (again) "gives him a way to [SR Bingle] without actually doing much.

In post 1479, Chateau Lobby wrote:VOTE: Ircher

Ircher seems defeated. Not much else I can say. town!ircher wouldn't be so resigned imo but I don't have much experience there but I am just comparing with early game Ircher vs. ircher now.

I'm not a big fan on this pivot. Ircher self votes and the day ends.

In post 2094, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 5.2
Titus
(4) -
Porkens
,
Battle Mage
, farside22, TrueSoulEnergy [E-3]
Porkens (2) - Chateau Lobby, Morning Tweet

Bingle
(1) -
Starbuck

Not voting:
Titus
,
Looker
,
Iconeum
,
ManateeDude
,
Bingle

Titus wagon 2: electric boogaloo

TSE of course still wants Titus. Farside HEAVILY suspects Titus now, because she keeps using her loverize in weird ways instead of loverizing two scum together. I was defending Titus, b-but.. I was just being completely fooled by her bday page Townie explanation. Let's see what Chateau was saying around this time:

In post 2006, Chateau Lobby wrote:If scum is on the hellbrooks wagon it has to be within the last few slots to vote there once the lynch became inevitable. Titus was position way too early on that wagon imo to be scum.

Morning Tweet, Porkens, ManateeDude. Thats the hellbrooks L-2, L-1- and hammer.

Hellbrooks was parked on porkens which also sets off a red flag.

Why aren't we lynching porkens instead?

Maybe we can convince titus to loverize herself with someone to kinda "leash" her?

VOTE: Porkens

In post 2024, Chateau Lobby wrote:Is everyone just blindly trusting the word of a the dead scum? How do we even know aliens exists in this game?

In post 2026, Porkens wrote:Also chateau is clear hard-defending his partner and (I’m assuming) fellow alien

In post 2028, Chateau Lobby wrote:then how do you explain all the people CONFIRMING being loverized?

Okay so he was defending Titus and pushing Pork.

In post 2294, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 5.6Chateau Lobby (4) - farside22,
Porkens
,
Looker
,
ManateeDude
[E-3]

Looker
(2) -
Bingle
,
Titus

ManateeDude
(1) -
Battle Mage

Porkens
(1) - Chateau Lobby

Titus
(1) - TrueSoulEnergy

Bingle
(1) -
Starbuck

Not voting:
Iconeum
, Morning Tweet

NOTE: Looker/Porkens are loverized.

I voted Chateau all the way to E-2 but unvoted a little before this post.

Hm. So the two aliens are pushing for the Looker/Pork combo to get sliced. Farside wants Chateau. TSE still wants to rid the world of Titus. Chateau agrees that we should chop the Porken/Looker combo.

In post 2328, TemporalLich wrote:
VC 5.8
ManateeDude
(7) -
Battle Mage
,
Porkens
, Chateau Lobby, farside22, Morning Tweet,
Starbuck
,
Titus

[ELIMINATED!]

Chateau Lobby (2) -
Looker
,
ManateeDude

Looker
(1) -
Bingle

Titus
(1) - TrueSoulEnergy

Not voting:
Iconeum

Ah, and NOW the lynch goes through since it pivoted to third party, with farside, Morning, and Titus voting Manatee off. Chateau has dodged so many lynches this game, it's almost like he has a band of one or two people unwilling to vote for him.

[There are many reasons to suspect Chateau of being an alien. Both TSE and farside have shown heavy suspicion towards Titus, with TSE showing the most. It seems to me that the aliens both tend to stray away from voting Chateau, and Chateau strays away from voting the aliens.]

[There is but a single exception to this rule in all the votecounts I analyzed. Titus voted Chateau D2, but swapped off to 2G1V and gave a bunch of justification.]

[I would say if there is just an alien left among us, it would most likely be Chateau.]

[Farside proclaimed Titus makes no sense as town on D5. On prior days she gut townread Titus. I suppose it could be a bus since she would have still had Bingle alive with her. She did end up voting for CL/Manatee instead of Titus, but she still scumread Titus.]

[TSE i really dont think is alien]

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2663 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:50 pm

Spoiler: Night Kills

[There is some ability that was inhibiting the werewolves and mafia from killing, obviously. Chateau's doctor claim, if he healed perfectly every night, technically could explain every no death, except for night four where two kills failed.]

[Will look and see if there's an alien role that can stop deaths, perhaps. Interesting that Chateau healed almost only aliens, although if he were an alien, I don't know why he'd admit that. And why'd the heal on Bingle fail?]

Hayasaka · Post Post #2664 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:43 pm

I picked page 3.
My abilities were restricted night 1, doesn't matter.
My role is I know Battle Mage is town who is dead.

I received red cards and a blue card once.

Hayasaka · Post Post #2665 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:44 pm

Do we have living conf towns?
Do we have living consensus towns (including dead town players)?

I want to know if I have an easy place to anchor myself off of

Iconeum · Post Post #2666 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:57 pm

oh god what a scummy opening hayasaka

Iconeum · Post Post #2667 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:57 pm

nothing personal, but it feeled faked

Iconeum · Post Post #2668 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 5:59 pm

In post 2665, Hayasaka wrote:Do we have living conf towns?
Do we have living consensus towns (including dead town players)?

I want to know if I have an easy place to anchor myself off of

i'm conf town by virtue of proven claim by a now dead townie

that's about it, other then reads

a few confirmed roles, but not allignment

Iconeum · Post Post #2669 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 6:01 pm

reading back it's probably likely the town shielder isn't a fake claim, right?

so farside or TSE slot to lynch

Chateau Lobby · Post Post #2670 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:07 pm

In post 2663, Morning Tweet wrote:
Spoiler: Night Kills
NIGHT ONE
No one has died last night...

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. Two failed.

Hellbooks, ManateeDude, Titus, Starbuck, Bingle, Looker, and Porkens are all Deathproof.

Chateau claims to have healed Doctor Drew.

NIGHT TWO
Hoctac has died during the night. They were a
Town Guesser

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. One failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Titus.

NIGHT THREE
Doctor Drew has died during the night. He was a
Town Anti Recruiter

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. The werewolves killed Drew. The mafia kill failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Titus.

NIGHT FOUR
No one has died last night...

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. Two failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Battle Mage.

NIGHT FIVE
Titus has died during the night. She was a
Alien Pheromone Seeder

Starbuck has died during the night. She was a
Werewolf Vanillaizer

Battle Mage has died during the night. He was a
Town Lurker

turned

Vanilla Townie

Bingle has died during the night. They were a
Alien Self Motion Detector

Mafia
,
Werewolves
, and
Aliens
can kill. That is 3 nightkills available. There was also a loverization in play.

Chateau claims to have healed Bingle, but Bingle still died.

NIGHT SIX
No one has died last night...

Werewolves
can kill. That is 1 nightkill available.

It is likely Porkens holstered.

NIGHT SEVEN
No one has died last night...

It seems the
Mafia
and
Werewolves
have been wiped out, or are masquerading as an
Alien
.
[There is some ability that was inhibiting the werewolves and mafia from killing, obviously. Chateau's doctor claim, if he healed perfectly every night, technically could explain every no death, except for night four where two kills failed.]

[Will look and see if there's an alien role that can stop deaths, perhaps. Interesting that Chateau healed almost only aliens, although if he were an alien, I don't know why he'd admit that. And why'd the heal on Bingle fail?]

Could the effort saver role be the reason behind no one dying on N1?

Iconeum · Post Post #2671 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:14 pm

well yes

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2672 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:21 pm

In post 2670, Chateau Lobby wrote:
In post 2663, Morning Tweet wrote:
Spoiler: Night Kills
NIGHT ONE
No one has died last night...

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. Two failed.

Hellbooks, ManateeDude, Titus, Starbuck, Bingle, Looker, and Porkens are all Deathproof.

Chateau claims to have healed Doctor Drew.

NIGHT TWO
Hoctac has died during the night. They were a
Town Guesser

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. One failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Titus.

NIGHT THREE
Doctor Drew has died during the night. He was a
Town Anti Recruiter

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. The werewolves killed Drew. The mafia kill failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Titus.

NIGHT FOUR
No one has died last night...

Mafia
and
Werewolves
can kill. That is 2 nightkills available. Two failed.

Chateau claims to have healed Battle Mage.

NIGHT FIVE
Titus has died during the night. She was a
Alien Pheromone Seeder

Starbuck has died during the night. She was a
Werewolf Vanillaizer

Battle Mage has died during the night. He was a
Town Lurker

turned

Vanilla Townie

Bingle has died during the night. They were a
Alien Self Motion Detector

Mafia
,
Werewolves
, and
Aliens
can kill. That is 3 nightkills available. There was also a loverization in play.

Chateau claims to have healed Bingle, but Bingle still died.

NIGHT SIX
No one has died last night...

Werewolves
can kill. That is 1 nightkill available.

It is likely Porkens holstered.

NIGHT SEVEN
No one has died last night...

It seems the
Mafia
and
Werewolves
have been wiped out, or are masquerading as an
Alien
.
[There is some ability that was inhibiting the werewolves and mafia from killing, obviously. Chateau's doctor claim, if he healed perfectly every night, technically could explain every no death, except for night four where two kills failed.]

[Will look and see if there's an alien role that can stop deaths, perhaps. Interesting that Chateau healed almost only aliens, although if he were an alien, I don't know why he'd admit that. And why'd the heal on Bingle fail?]

Could the effort saver role be the reason behind no one dying on N1?

[Yep, that's what i was getting at for N1]

[I can believe that the groupscum tried to get rid of Titus. Her ability was quite powerful. Night four still sticks out, I can believe a BM kills, but both teams gunning for BM at once? What are the odds?]

Chateau Lobby · Post Post #2673 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:24 pm

He was conftown at that point so maybe they all shot there.

Still doesn't explain why there aren't 2 kills or more any other nigjt besides N5.

Morning Tweet · Post Post #2674 (ISO) » Tue Jul 14, 2020 7:28 pm

[I think the aliens attacked N5, and used Titus' loverization to kill both Star and Battle Mage.]

[The other nights, well, it's technically possible you blocked almost every kill. Technically.]

[I checked Grand Idea, by the way, there are quite a few alien doctors. Still, if you are an alien doctor, it's kind of odd you'd admit to healing almost exclusively aliens.]