Mini Normal 2148 (Post Game)

[Not_Mafia]

NPOM has scum utility as well, he's the votato slot

[maxwell]

Yeah I know, GC seems to think he's town, though. I'd probably be comfortable voting DoctorPepper, and if he's town I think the scumteam is guaranteed to be Looker/NPOM. Kind of starting to think CSF is just town here, looking back on stungun.

[Green Crayons]

I thought votato was town, but I admit my ability to be monumentally wrong. I think NPOE's play has been scummy.

[Not_Mafia]

Town
GC
CSF

maxwell
DP

looker
bob
NPOM
Scum

I've come round to CSF being town, I think scum is in NPOM + bob/looker

[Not_Mafia]

Should we massclaim

I think mass claim might be the best move here

[maxwell]

I doubt it reveals much at this point but if it lets us keep bob out of the poe it's fine.

[Green Crayons]

I’m against a mass claim but favor a town investigator counter claiming bob if one exists.

[bob3141]

bob you keep saying you wanted to push HK50 to a claim yesterday, but you weren't voting HK50 until like 2 days before deadline

Plain and simple I'm used to 12-14 day long days as opposed to 7 days.


Normally I prefer to wait to give a player a chance to reply to my push on them. Twofold, one so i can get one last read from their final response and secondly I do sort of feel it's a bit rude. The second one I know is a bit silly but that's just the way I am.

Had decided to give hk50 one last night to actually reply before i made my vote on him. As i didnt have time on the sunday to post. With me making my vote lunch time if he either didn't reply or his reply did not give me town vibes

The night before after a quick skim my vote I had seen the dunn wagon start to build up traction again. Even though it had been the counter wagon to porkens at several points during day one. So I made my vote when I could.

[NoPowerOverMe]

I'm not a net negative, I recently was in lylo and won. NM's read list is very OMGUS.

[NoPowerOverMe]

At any rate, town can't afford another mislynch at this point, or at the very least, we should be doing everything we can to lynch actual scum. I am suspicious of NM and maxwell for advocating policy lynching at this point.

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not a net negative, I recently was in lylo and won. NM's read list is very OMGUS.

I've been pushing bob and votato (your slot) since early game and the HK/looker slot hasn't pushed me at all?

[Not_Mafia]

we should be doing everything we can to lynch actual scum

Such as reading the game

[maxwell]

I’m against a mass claim but favor a town investigator counter claiming bob if one exists.

I don't claim this. If Looker/Nopower/Cat are an investigative role, they should claim now.

[maxwell]

we should be doing everything we can to lynch actual scum

Such as reading the game

[NoPowerOverMe]

What did Votato do that was scummy?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I already claimed.

[Not_Mafia]

I already claimed.

I can’t see it in your iso

[Not_Mafia]

Re-reading NPOM’s iso I can definitely see him and HK as scum, he definitely has a cautious noob scum replacing in to a bad slot and bad situation vibe. And his play arm round the HK wagon is ew

[maxwell]

was Vanilla Town, in response to me asking one of the people I don't townread had a power role to claim. Doubt there'll be a non-bob investigative claim.

[Not_Mafia]

bob’s interaction with Porkens slot lynch day 1 is still terrible though, there was definitely a concerted scum resistance effort to that wagon

[maxwell]

At the moment my gut instinct is that BM/clidd/porkens is scum. And ever since clidd got wagoned Hk has kept trying to deflect attention away from the Bm/clidd wagon. He even keeps trying to dismiss anything bm might have done as not ai.

Even though he started pushing back at green after green had asked him legitimate questions about how he managed to come to an opposite conclusion as to shogun. When he in fact used shogun's own statement to vote.

All the while Hk kept pushing a wagon against Dunn. And only now suddenly town reads dunn after his wagon had dropped down to 2 votes.

This is bad? His vote was hanging on clidd until resistance to voting porkens made him join the flashwagon on gera. I mean, not impossible he was scum looking for an out but I would think he'd have done it a lot sooner. Like I said based on roleclaim and play toward the scum slot I'm pretty sure he's town here. More likely than not he was forced to switch by other people and the DP/HK 50 interactions look far worse in my opinion.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Vt

[NoPowerOverMe]

Replacements should be cautious in a 70 page game

[Not_Mafia]

I'm not a net negative, I recently was in lylo and won. NM's read list is very OMGUS.

I've been pushing bob and votato (your slot) since early game and the HK/looker slot hasn't pushed me at all?

Any response to this?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I asked what vatato did to warrant a push.