Smuggler's Port [Game Over]

[Menalque]

If notty doesn’t flip scum then for N3 we invest exactly one of (moment, datisi)

[NorwegianboyEE]

(Norwee, nk15) invest pls dragon

Shitty pool, add one more.

[Menalque]

Why would I want to add one more? If you’re both town surely it’s beneficial to keep the pool as small as possible to ensure that the TD isn’t too narrowed down

[NorwegianboyEE]

Because i want there to at least be a chance to get another guilty. I’m town and i don’t scumread NK15. Sure it would confirm our innocence, but for me myself it wouldn’t help at all. I’d like to have S_S in there.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does anyone have a problem with a Norwee/NK15/Something_Smart investigation pool?

[Something_Smart]

*raises hand*

[NorwegianboyEE]

Then it’s settled. Me/NK15/S_S it is.

[Not Known 15]

Then it’s settled. Me/NK15/S_S it is.

Nearly a good idea, but I prefer Norwegian/me/Alisae
Alisae hides behind their "I hate to play with revealed IC" despite us having a real choice between the three potential lynches today; I think we could hit scum there.

[Not Known 15]

I seriously considered refusing to ship wheat and may have done so if the day went on for longer.

Why?

Answer this.

[Hel]

GuiltyLion because they're shady.

Why am I shady? Is it just activity level for you? Which of my reads do you disagree with?

That's right. Solely activity levels.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Does activity levels count when a game get's boring?

[Radical Rat]

Because i want there to at least be a chance to get another guilty. I’m town and i don’t scumread NK15. Sure it would confirm our innocence, but for me myself it wouldn’t help at all. I’d like to have S_S in there.

This is scum. You're setting it up so that when tea gets found on your ship, we misclown S_S instead of executing you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If you’re so against it then just do a pure investigation. But it would be an waste of time for me. I don’t care about being confirmed town. I just want to be townread and able to scum hunt at the same time. Which sadly appear to be impossible at this point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If i’m going to be lynched anyway with a guilty then i’d prefer leaving me out of the pool and investigate him.

[maxwell]

Because i want there to at least be a chance to get another guilty. I’m town and i don’t scumread NK15. Sure it would confirm our innocence, but for me myself it wouldn’t help at all. I’d like to have S_S in there.

This is scum. You're setting it up so that when tea gets found on your ship, we misclown S_S instead of executing you.

I don't know how to tell you this but scum left in the pool is going to get caught anyway.

[Radical Rat]

Because i want there to at least be a chance to get another guilty. I’m town and i don’t scumread NK15. Sure it would confirm our innocence, but for me myself it wouldn’t help at all. I’d like to have S_S in there.

This is scum. You're setting it up so that when tea gets found on your ship, we misclown S_S instead of executing you.

I don't know how to tell you this but scum left in the pool is going to get caught anyway.

Yes, but it's time wasted, and more time for them to figure out the TD. In a setup where scum can win after getting caught and executed, getting caught anyway isn't really much of a deterrent, but delaying that a day or two is very valuable.

[Not Known 15]

Because i want there to at least be a chance to get another guilty. I’m town and i don’t scumread NK15. Sure it would confirm our innocence, but for me myself it wouldn’t help at all. I’d like to have S_S in there.

This is scum. You're setting it up so that when tea gets found on your ship, we misclown S_S instead of executing you.

I don't know how to tell you this but scum left in the pool is going to get caught anyway.

Yes, but it's time wasted, and more time for them to figure out the TD. In a setup where scum can win after getting caught and executed, getting caught anyway isn't really much of a deterrent, but delaying that a day or two is very valuable.

If there is scum in the pool of three we are going to have today(and it doesnt have scum from group 1 in it), then both scum can be eliminated by investigations and executions before deadline, without further scumreading being necessary.

[maxwell]

I really hate that claim (that big bold "

Enough

" is really lame) and how NK15 has basically excused himself from playing the game, but I may as well provisionally accept it since it gets confirmed tomorrow anyway.

Scattered thoughts:

• I think we all agree Menalque is town.
  
• I've decided Radical Rat is town as well; his gamesolving attempts seem to come from a town place (though also seem a bit like cat-herding; his plan in 460 requires close to unanimous agreement to be workable)
  
• I agree with the arguments that username tone-slipping so quickly is probably a towntell.
  
• notscience' vocal suspicion of the NK claim is weird and pings me
  
• I kind of agree with 493 but given the cat is out of the bag we have to make the best of it.
  
• I think there's a high probability there is at least one smuggler in those who haven't posted since NK15 outed. (Which is six players so that's not a hugely impressive deduction I guess)

VOTE: notscience

It’s not like I’m doing anything with it, it’s just my spicy take

I’m disappointed in you worm, I’m gonna have to drop you in some tequila

This was the second vote on notscience (after username). Umlaut had initially defended notscience against username's attack, but swapped to voting him after NK15's claim. This interaction strikes me as very unlikely to be S/S. Several more posts posts in the way notscience talks to umlaut just doesn't look like scum interactions in my opinion.

I'm comfortable sheeping on this.

VOTE: Execute notscience

Tentative scumteam guess: notscience/Hel/Moment.

Execute: notscience

Decent place to start until I get my feet wet with data.

Popping in for two things:

(1) VOTE: notscience

(2) datisi, how come you didn’t get pissed with GL this game?

These are the follow-on votes. It's not as strong, but given a 3 person scumteam in a 17 player setup, I would think there would be a disinclination to bus. There were plenty of available wagons to choose, it would seem counterproductive to put that momentum on a teammate. So I'd rule RR/Titus/Menalque out for inspection as well.

[Titus]

Titus, why is Umlaut scum by VCA?

He's not necessarily. I want all the Notty counters investigated to figure out what scum valued.

[Alisae]

titus is there something I'm supposed to be doing?
I'll just sheep u idc tbh

[maxwell]

I'd probably throw in one of alisae or GL with norwegian and NK15. I don't know. I have no good ideas.

[Menalque]

dragon boi can we get this show on the road? make you choice on the invests for tonight so we can hurry up and get with the guillotining on notscience

[Iconeum]

you want me to handpick the invests again?

I could, based on the same process I used on D1. But we agreed town would have control, and everyone seems to have different opinions.

And if I do push my own bracket, there's not gonna be room to divert away from that because reasons.

[Menalque]

I want you to pick based on what has been suggested in consultation, yes

I cbf to try to corral everyone here into actually voting using hurt tags to try and pick an investigation pool where if you didn’t abide it would potentially put the TD anyway

I don’t want you to control who we lynch (so long as we’re lynching from within a pool of confirmed scum)

[Moment]

I'd rather he didn't handpick.