Redneck Mafia GAME OVER PARTNER!

Bingle · Post Post #2075 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:30 pm

For clarification to any town players reading along, I never said TLich was scum because his reads were bad. I DID say that TLich saying chk was scum because his reads were bad when they were mirrored by TLich's reads is scum indicative.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #2076 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:30 pm

In post 2071, Bingle wrote:
In post 2065, Logicalicaltist wrote:I’m just more inclined to believe Chkflip is scum here over TL.
What do you think of my townreasoning for chk?

The thing is I can see it both ways.
He’s either just playing very what I consider “Towny Mafia”. (Town that is slightly benefiting Mafia from how he’s been responding, reacting, etc)
Or he’s Scum that is trying to find any reasoning he can use, to form an Elimination on someone that isn’t his scum buddies.

ISO · Post Post #2077 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:30 pm

some people think emotion-based reads are obv!scum so I have to put on a logical persona

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #2078 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:33 pm

In post 2073, chkflip wrote:Lich, Logic:

Let's perform an exercise.

Let's say the three of us (myself, you, Logic) are town. We have a semi-confirm locking Pook and Goof as town. That gives a pretty small berth to find scum.

Give me three. Ignore your lists.

Assuming both of you are Town and I had a GTH I’d say the team is Drew, PK, Almost50 and Vecna.
Unless Pooky and DGB are Both Scum with some wacky play.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #2079 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:34 pm

In post 2074, TemporalLich wrote:
In post 2069, Logicalicaltist wrote:What stops you from doing
Bolded
currently?
I'm under too much pressure and one wrong move can get me quickhammered

No one’s going to hammer you for giving reads.
And you aren’t even that close to being eliminated.

Logicalicaltist · Post Post #2080 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:35 pm

In post 2077, TemporalLich wrote:some people think emotion-based reads are obv!scum so I have to put on a
logical
persona

O.O.

Bingle · Post Post #2081 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:35 pm

In post 2072, Logicalicaltist wrote:I probably missed it but what was his full Town read on me again?

Spoiler: Every post where he discusses his read on you via cntrl f of his D1 ISO and deleting posts that were literally responding to you. I stopped when I got to today.

ISO · Post Post #2082 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:46 pm

In post 2073, chkflip wrote:Lich, Logic:

Let's perform an exercise.

Let's say the three of us (myself, you, Logic) are town. We have a semi-confirm locking Pook and Goof as town. That gives a pretty small berth to find scum.

Give me three. Ignore your lists.

Pooky (yeah Pooky is scummy enough for me to distrust the claim, DGB still town tho), PK, Vecna, and maybe Doctor Drew

Bingle · Post Post #2083 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:47 pm

Oh, and chk? The reason I don't think the tracker/ninjacop thing is a S/T pairing by setup is because it makes more sense for town to have a negative utility interaction to offset 2 investigations than for scum to have a role geared towards finding investigations that can't find the cop.

I have no problem believing a plethora of targeting roles given Alch's claim (Either he's telling the truth and there need to be a lot to give him a chance to win or he's lying and scum probably have a lot of actions to make him think it was a viable fakeclaim in the setup).

Bingle · Post Post #2084 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:49 pm

In post 2082, TemporalLich wrote:Pooky (yeah Pooky is scummy enough for me to distrust the claim, DGB still town tho), PK, Vecna, and maybe Doctor Drew

Hot take: not a bad list. Firmly disagree that this is how scum Vecna approaches me, but this is probably your towniest post in the thread.

ISO · Post Post #2085 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:50 pm

I'm not sure how T/T tracker/ninja cop is a negative utility interaction, it allows the cop to act and the tracker to get a negative result on the cop (less suspect)

In a role madness game it might be, but a negative result means you likely didn't perform the NK

ISO · Post Post #2086 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:52 pm

Logically I scumread Bingle, but intuitively I can see where Bingle is coming from and can't form a strong scumread as a result

And chkflip was off limits in that exercise, I'd still put chkflip in my exile pool

Bingle · Post Post #2087 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 1:58 pm

If the cop claims a guilty the tracker who saw no movement is going to counter claim and say their result is bullshit, and probably get the cop lynched in the process (See: Logical's reaction to the ninja cop claim).

Tracker is never going to out a no visit to save someone before endgame because "didn't perform the nightkill" is like the weakest result you can get.

Compare: Tracker sees cop target player B and then town read player B. Cop flips without claiming, tracker has reliable information about a clear. Cop gets run up. Tracker knows cop has a role that targets and doesn't kill, corroborating the claim.

It's not a miller, but it's close to a Tracker miller. And miller cop is a thing that has been used to nerf multicop setups in the past.

PookyTheMagicalBear · Post Post #2088 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:29 pm

In post 2082, TemporalLich wrote:Pooky (yeah Pooky is scummy enough for me to distrust the claim, DGB still town tho), PK, Vecna, and maybe Doctor Drew

Bingle · Post Post #2089 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:38 pm

In post 2088, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 2082, TemporalLich wrote:Pooky (yeah Pooky is scummy enough for me to distrust the claim, DGB still town tho), PK, Vecna, and maybe Doctor Drew

Meme with a female if you think that a scumread on you is unreasonable because you'd never gambit an inno.

Meme with a male if you think the list is bad for some other reason.

Meme with both if this is just a "I'm town" post.

Meme with neither if I'm missing something.

chkflip · Post Post #2090 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:52 pm

Okay, let's go this direction.

VOTE: pisskop

Givin me bad MM2 vibes here, bud.

pisskop · Post Post #2091 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:54 pm

umm prodge?

idk whats going on dont ask me

pisskop · Post Post #2092 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:54 pm

In post 2090, chkflip wrote:Okay, let's go this direction.

VOTE: pisskop

Givin me bad MM2 vibes here, bud.

what a post tho.

good luck chummer

pisskop · Post Post #2093 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:55 pm

In post 2057, The Baker wrote:
Vote Count 2.03

TemporalLich (3): Bingle, PookyTheMagicalBear, chkflip
Alchemist21 (3) Galron, DrippingGoofball, Doctor Drew
chkflip (2): Logicalicaltist, TemporalLich
Doctor Drew (1): Alchemist21
Galron (1): Vecna
Not Voting (4): Almost50, username, Elsa Jay, pisskop

With 14 alive, it takes 8 to blast someone!
Day Two ends on Thursday, July 30th at 10:00pm EST in (expired on 2020-07-30 22:00:00)
username is V/LA until the 25th

VOTE: tempura

pisskop · Post Post #2094 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 2:55 pm

alch is a copout, but good lynch

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2095 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:44 pm

In post 2055, Bingle wrote:If Alch is trueclaiming,
there's a possibility
his role gets used to town's benefit.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #2096 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:46 pm

Bingle is town.

Bingle · Post Post #2097 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 2096, DrippingGoofball wrote:Bingle is town.

Shhh. I'm trying not to get nightkilled over here.

Elsa Jay · Post Post #2098 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:06 pm

I also like not getting NKed. Its pleasant being alive.

Bingle · Post Post #2099 (ISO) » Mon Jul 20, 2020 4:06 pm

In post 2090, chkflip wrote:Okay, let's go this direction.

VOTE: pisskop

Givin me bad MM2 vibes here, bud.

I assume this means you think I'm wrong on TLich. Why do you think he's town?