Why Gun?? - Town Win

[Bell]

KnS haven’t really done anything worth considering them town for yet

tbf, if I have done something worth considering me town, then that would be concerning of its own right.

Very valid point

ok but how's that a good thing?
like part of your obligation as town is to be towny.

This is an opinion and not a fact. Some say that trying to appear town as town makes you artificial which is difficult to distinguish between mafia artificial and town artificial.

[Menalque]

Is there some reason you're ignoring me mena?

Is there something you wanted to say/talk about?

KnS haven’t really done anything worth considering them town for yet

tbf, if I have done something worth considering me town, then that would be concerning of its own right.

Very valid point

ok but how's that a good thing?
like part of your obligation as town is to be towny.

Anything that the Sara head has done at this point will be NAI. Honestly, you probably shouldn’t be townreading me either but I guess I’ll take it. People’s alignments will become clearer given time but at this point we’re still transitioning out of the shitposting

Generally competent + experienced scum will be capable of faking tone + reads in the early phase and the Sara head is very much both of those things. So eir sounding town doesn’t really mean much

Keiji head just always pockets me so I’m ignoring my inclinations there for now

[Bell]

Sure, why are you voting me? Do you share datisi's opinion or is it something else?

[Bell]

Also set up contribution.
Because none of us trust each other there's motivation to shoot first or be shot. See: Prisoner's dilemma.
My initial shooting will be tit for tat.

[Menalque]

Just kinda think your scum my dude

[Morning Tweet]

people to not shoot
me
morning tweet
Keiji and Sara (Alisae + Kanna)
Menalque
Umlaut

Does anyone have objections to any of these? or anyone they wanna add? just throwing out ideas here.

Here's my working whitelist:

Triple >> Bell, Datisi >> Mena, jj >> Umlaut, max

Spoiler:

Triple is town

Bell I like from his reaction to his wagon. Not too defensive, just looking over each person's reasoning for voting him since there was a somewhat decent chance there's 0-1 scum on the wagon from a town PoV

I slightly like both of maxes votes (cause i did them too).

I like jj's takes in 141 and the pretend ur confident comment

Mena + Datisi haven't done anything to ping me although that wouldn't surprise me from either alignment. regardless i dont think I'd want either shot but I guess i don't have super tangible reasoning. I looked through Datisi's ISO and i like his reaction to triple

Umlaut in hindsight I like because his main post was expressing dissent towards Bell, which at the very least puts him slightly above people i dont have an opinion on. Other than that idk why he's townread

K&S i get why you'd want them in the townblock but i wouldnt be surprised at all if they make that post as scum. Not that i scumread it of course but eh

[Bell]

Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

[Morning Tweet]

I kinda simultaneously like Mena more or less not interacting with Bell as much thinking he's scum, but also like Bell's counteraction of wanting to interact more with those suspecting him. But not to defend himself, it more comes off like he's looking for which is scum

[Menalque]

Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

I mean, not exactly

[TripleHaven]

honestly bell could go either way, my thoughts on him are kinda wavering. His reactions to being voted have been fine, he doesn't seem to be taking it too seriously which would be town indicative. but on the other hand I wish he was trying harder to solve.

[TripleHaven]

I have too many nulls it's been the same 5-6 people itt all game for me
or like, that's what it's felt like, cause i dont' really remember posts from anyone else.

[TripleHaven]

kinda wanna shoot into my nulls.

[Morning Tweet]

I have too many nulls it's been the same 5-6 people itt all game for me
or like, that's what it's felt like, cause i dont' really remember posts from anyone else.

I reckon that's not something to beat yourself up over on page 11

[maxwell]

I thought Bell's game start was awkward but they seem to have adopted a strange style for this game. Can't really draw a conclusion.

[TripleHaven]

I have too many nulls it's been the same 5-6 people itt all game for me
or like, that's what it's felt like, cause i dont' really remember posts from anyone else.

I reckon that's not something to beat yourself up over on page 11

I guess, im just used to fast paced games, like on mu we'd usually be about half way through the phase rn /shrug

[Bell]

Just kinda think your scum my dude

A gut read. ew.

I mean, not exactly

What exactly did you mean then?

[Iconeum]

Rawr! catching up today

[maxwell]

people to not shoot
me
morning tweet
Keiji and Sara (Alisae + Kanna)
Menalque
Umlaut

Does anyone have objections to any of these? or anyone they wanna add? just throwing out ideas here.

Here's my working whitelist:

Triple >> Bell, Datisi >> Mena, jj >> Umlaut, max

Spoiler:

Triple is town

Bell I like from his reaction to his wagon. Not too defensive, just looking over each person's reasoning for voting him since there was a somewhat decent chance there's 0-1 scum on the wagon from a town PoV

I slightly like both of maxes votes (cause i did them too).

I like jj's takes in 141 and the pretend ur confident comment

Mena + Datisi haven't done anything to ping me although that wouldn't surprise me from either alignment. regardless i dont think I'd want either shot but I guess i don't have super tangible reasoning. I looked through Datisi's ISO and i like his reaction to triple

Umlaut in hindsight I like because his main post was expressing dissent towards Bell, which at the very least puts him slightly above people i dont have an opinion on. Other than that idk why he's townread

K&S i get why you'd want them in the townblock but i wouldnt be surprised at all if they make that post as scum. Not that i scumread it of course but eh

I actually don't really like most of jjh's content this game despite agreeing with him on a technical level, felt like he got too much into into setup strategy to the neglect of anything else. Townread on triplehaven is uncontroversial, don't understand the one on bell, either way don't think a couple early townreads is worthy of towncred.

[Morning Tweet]

people to not shoot
me
morning tweet
Keiji and Sara (Alisae + Kanna)
Menalque
Umlaut

Does anyone have objections to any of these? or anyone they wanna add? just throwing out ideas here.

Here's my working whitelist:

Triple >> Bell, Datisi >> Mena, jj >> Umlaut, max

Spoiler:

Triple is town

Bell I like from his reaction to his wagon. Not too defensive, just looking over each person's reasoning for voting him since there was a somewhat decent chance there's 0-1 scum on the wagon from a town PoV

I slightly like both of maxes votes (cause i did them too).

I like jj's takes in 141 and the pretend ur confident comment

Mena + Datisi haven't done anything to ping me although that wouldn't surprise me from either alignment. regardless i dont think I'd want either shot but I guess i don't have super tangible reasoning. I looked through Datisi's ISO and i like his reaction to triple

Umlaut in hindsight I like because his main post was expressing dissent towards Bell, which at the very least puts him slightly above people i dont have an opinion on. Other than that idk why he's townread

K&S i get why you'd want them in the townblock but i wouldnt be surprised at all if they make that post as scum. Not that i scumread it of course but eh

I actually don't really like most of jjh's content this game despite agreeing with him on a technical level, felt like he got too much into into setup strategy to the neglect of anything else. Townread on triplehaven is uncontroversial, don't understand the one on bell, either way don't think a couple early townreads is worthy of towncred.

Mm not feeling as strong abt jj now, I think on a technical level i probably disagreed with his take on governing shots not benefiting town. I think reducing chaos to an extent would be helpful for at least avoiding really outlandish shots. He didn't get into much else other than spec about the shots, true, I can see scum just wanting to stick to the mechanical

Bell i dont know how to explain well. I suppose his asking everyone voting him for explanations/reasoning could be a scummy defensive move, but i more interpreted it as scumhunting on the only main early wagon (which also did happen to be him). His continued harping on Mena could just be his scumhunting style, or perhaps something easy to get tunneled on as scum to not have to do anything else. Been leaning the former

In any case i'm just looking for early impressions to base where shots maybe should/shouldn't go

[Keiji and Sara]

i am glad we are establishing order! what alisara said was what i meant, of course.

Keiji head just always pockets me so I’m ignoring my inclinations there for now

♡ (눈‸눈)

also @mena; why are you so confident on datisi?

~keiji

[Keiji and Sara]

oof err just realised shooting is about to start so there's no time to question reads. and since most people aren't on the whitelist, i'm assuming it's kinda free game.

i scumread datisi because of that readlist; seems tmi, especially umlaut who has three posts, two of which are filler, and one that is just ok. if we get shot, that's somewhere i'd like to shoot.

~keiji

[Keiji and Sara]

i'd also like to encourage other people to make scumlists too!

~keiji

[Datisi]

you wanna go keiji

[Keiji and Sara]

you wanna go keiji

come at me, sou

[Keiji and Sara]

i think Morning is town though!

~keiji