Open 790 | Purgatory | Game Over!

[clidd]

clidd is obvtown, we should just send him to heaven. I know you don't want to be, clidd, but we need to go for the win.

Green Crayons is obvscum. He unvoted Dann because I voted for clidd to be heavened while also saying Dann was town. Note, I didn't make any push to heaven Dann or really give any reasoning that would convince anyone. Just calling him town was enough for me to "muddy the waters on Dann" and not make Green Crayons want to heaven him.
You know what's really going on? Green Crayons wants to heaven himself, that's why he's gone off Dann.

And GC isn't obvscum, stop.

[clidd]

I don't know why you aren't worried about GC trolling in heaven. He's out of his mind in my opinion.

[clidd]

I don't know why you aren't worried about GC trolling in heaven. He's out of his mind in my opinion.

Green Crayons doesn't troll as town, clidd. He's a fairly serious player.

Any "trolling" you're detecting is scuminess, ya know, because he's a demon. You don't need to make excuses for him.

Hum.

[clidd]

I am becoming more inclined to send to Hayasaka at the moment.

[clidd]

Send to heaven*.

[clidd]

Playing scum exhausts clidd btw, so he would absolutely be fine with being heavened early as a demon

That's true ... but it's been months. How do you still remember that ?

Pedit: Hayasaka.

[clidd]

You're giving me mixfeelings, Hectic.

The things you remember about me you shouldn't be able to remember, so there is a chance you did a search of that, but I don't know why you would.

[clidd]

I'm good with Hayasaka on heaven.

[clidd]

I think I'm underestimating your memory. I don't remember very well those two games.

[clidd]

VOTE: Hayasaka

[clidd]

I think I'm underestimating your memory. I don't remember very well those two games.

So I wasn't expecting.

But it's towny for you using this info to read me.

[clidd]

I was going to say that ^

[clidd]

I can see we being wrong on Dann, but I'll know when I sort Cth/Walter.

[clidd]

That's true. I think the biggest difficulty will be to measure Walter in AI terms, maybe even more than Cth.

[clidd]

Well, I'll take a break.

Back later.

[clidd]

I am pretty tired of the fancy play syndrome

I agree that playing simple and consistent is good overall, but I don't think we are overthinking as we speculate better ways to use the heaven pick without sending obvious-reads.

[clidd]

I liked Isis last posts, but still good with Hayasaka heaven.

[clidd]

And I kind of tired with my ping-pongs in my pick.

[clidd]

Hayasaka appears to have duplicated herself in my readlist. Demons could have a ditto ability maybe? Bottom Hayasaka should be Green Crayons.

I think that you know that I know that the error above is town indicator in my pov, so i will just not read it as AI.

[clidd]

I think Hayasaka should be higher from your pov than Dann. I understand how did you go about the rest.

[clidd]

We don't have more to discuss.

But you can help with your last reads/pov.

[clidd]

I can be tolerant with GC to a certain extent, it depends on how he behaves.

I don't know what conclusion I will reach in the future, but at the moment, with past and current impressions, I am more inclined to consider him town.

[clidd]

I was expecting more reactions to the self-vote. There was a period of silence and an unusual delay, but considering that the time zones are not the same as mine, I don't think I can get an AI conclusion from that.

It's just something I wanted to share.

[clidd]

By the way, I want to thank Hayasaka strongly for performing so well before she left. Her reads and vision of the game were probably the best so far.

I respect her point of view in relation to me, but I don't see myself in the same way. Personally, I see the fact that there are a lot of townreads in my slot as a facilitator, but I don't think that has a bearing on whether I'm a strong player or not.

Considering that I have changed opinions and choices for heaven countless times, my individual game is very inconsistent.

[clidd]

I don't understand about what are you talking about ^

But I know that Walter needs to post more or he'll just be the main choice.

[clidd]

Rephrase the question (language barrier).

[clidd]

I feel like I'm wrong on someone. Someone that I was townreading (I don't think this person is GC).

[clidd]

By the way, I want to thank Hayasaka strongly for performing so well before she left. Her reads and vision of the game were probably the best so far.

I respect her point of view in relation to me, but I don't see myself in the same way. Personally, I see the fact that there are a lot of townreads in my slot as a facilitator, but I don't think that has a bearing on whether I'm a strong player or not.

Considering that I have changed opinions and choices for heaven countless times, my individual game is very inconsistent.

clidd, what would you have done if all your townreads said "I have the same preference as you do and want to stay in purgatory"? Would you have wanted to force one of them into heaven or would you have accepted selfheavening more at that point?

You preferred not to go to heaven. If GC, Narset, and I all preferred not to go to heaven, would you have tried to convince GC to want to go to heaven or would you have been polite and asked your friends to vote for you?

If Narset = Hayasaka, I don't think I would have the patience to keep urging someone to go to heaven. For example, I wanted GC to go, but I soon changed my mind after seeing that he would not collaborate. In the scenario that you mentioned, if my strongest townreads didn't want to go to heaven and demonstrated this expressively (verbally), I would have to go.

I don't think I would try my luck outside the pool of more reliable townreads.

[clidd]

Narset does equal Hayasaka, Narset is a pheldagriff type pokemon, it's very complicated

I thought it was some personal nickname.

[clidd]

Hum. I'll take a break, back later.

[clidd]

[clidd]

I'm getting to the idea that Isis is just closer to town, although sometimes we are not on the same page in the sense of reasoning.

[clidd]

Hectic used some mental triggers of connection with me when he approached our past experiences in common, which also gave me a nostalgia. He probably knows how I think and knows how to intentionally produce town signs or impressions that I would capture, but I don't see what he would gain from mentioning it. For a moment, if I closed my eyes and stopped considering what I was considering, some of the things he said make sense, but then I would have to go into his pov to see that (which would be ignoring the impressions/personal interpretations that I had). I would say that due to the strange mixture of sensations he is a townlean at the moment.

[clidd]

When I compare Dann to other players in the tone context (Cth, Isis and Hayasaka), I can't feel the same verbal comfort and this is probably what is giving me a difficulty in correctly evaluating his slot (and I was supporting myself more on Hayasaka's reads about him). I would probably need help with it, because the only game we have in common was a short participation and I couldn't absorb much of his towngame.

[clidd]

Walter is someone I played previously in a newbie game, close to the final elimination, and I noticed that he expresses himself normally without commitment, being objective and with little expansion in the sense of post width. It is also a difficult slot to read (as he does not have a very good frequency), but if he increases the frequency and shares more vigorously-consistently, without interruptions or very large intervals, it will be possible to tell if he is coming from a scum mentality or not. He is less difficult to read compared to Dann, in my opinion.

[clidd]

Norwegian is losing the shine of the impressions I had during the previous phases, and since the middle of the previous phase until now he has not given me any more AI signals (which is a negative point). I probably need to see more of what he's thinking.

[clidd]

GC stills the same, and he will kind of help (hopefully) today with his own reads.

[clidd]

So I'm thinking:

<Closer to town>

GC / Isis

<Middle>

Cthylla / Dannflor

<Null>

NorwegianboyEE / WaltertheDunce10

[clidd]

When I compare Dann to other players in the tone context (Cth, Isis and Hayasaka), I can't feel the same verbal comfort and this is probably what is giving me a difficulty in correctly evaluating his slot (and I was supporting myself more on Hayasaka's reads about him). I would probably need help with it, because the only game we have in common was a short participation and I couldn't absorb much of his towngame.

Do you have Green Crayons in a different tone bucket, or did you just skip/forget him because you've decided he's town?
NGL I want to be such a special snowflake and have my own home bucket but I

guess

Dannflor and Hectic are good company

I don't know.

I had *strong* impressions about GC being town, but his tone is bad, so I'm not considering.

[clidd]

I read your tone, I like it.

I read Cth's tone, I like it.

I read Dann,

I don't like it

, I feel that there is something strange about it, but I can't put in words.

[clidd]

But he's never being the pick today. I respect Hayasaka/GC's reads on him.

[clidd]

And I'm not soo sure about Norwegian anymore, so he's going to null (which means that I need to see something towny).

[clidd]

K, that is interesting this feeling of nostalgia,
Do you think it was on purpose to gain your tr or just coincidental?
What other sensations does he produce for you Clidd?

I think this question could be asked in another way to absorb more content.

The extension for "what other sensations?" is an aggregator that wasn't a need there.

[clidd]

Walter, what is your view on each slot ?

[clidd]

You probably know that you're top pick for today, so if you're town you need to show us if we are wrong on you.

[clidd]

I'm going back and forth with Hectic.

[clidd]

After a reread on a few things, I think we shouldn't send Walter yet.

I want to see his pov on the living players before doing it.

[clidd]

That's all, back later.

[clidd]

not alligned with whoever masterminds are behind this

if they were just keeping me around for some reason

Been keeping it mostly to myself but there’s some bad mojo going on here man.

Which has made me paranoid of most of my TR’s

This type of narrative is similar to what I used when I was converted into our past game to instigate Porkens' paranoid side.

[clidd]

I don't think we're going anywhere with Walter, he's not going to expand his pov.

[clidd]

I'm thinking between Norwegian or Walter for today, most likely Walter. I don't want him inside the PoE anymore.

[clidd]

Dann is a bit more towny with his post about me.

[clidd]

And, well, GC is coasting. It will be good if he posts something to help, if possible.

He's not a pick for today, but I'm getting confuse if he wants to be afk or not as town.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[clidd]

We aren't doing cth today, by te way.

[clidd]

There has to be at least 1/2 scum in Isis/Clidd/GC/Dann from my POV

And looking at this litte part, I don't feel like town!You would put my name there. This is one of the moments when you entered the neutrality field and forgot to weigh your personal opinions before highlighting the mechanical facts, which reflects me as something possibly premeditated instead of natural/spontaneous.

[clidd]

You're making sense as demon to me, Norwergian.

[clidd]

This is really fake ^

[clidd]

Let's have a chat, why you are acting like "omg, everyone is a suspect, there is a major plot going on"

[clidd]

not alligned with whoever masterminds are behind this

if they were just keeping me around for some reason

Been keeping it mostly to myself but there’s some bad mojo going on here man.

Which has made me paranoid of most of my TR’s

This type of narrative is similar to what I used when I was converted into our past game to instigate Porkens' paranoid side.

This is what is pinging me ^

[clidd]

This is really fake ^

Why?
I thought you TR me before.

TRing you before means nothing.

I don't think is real what you're feeling right now.

[clidd]

You're making sense as demon to me, Norwergian.

That’s cool.
It’s natural to go for easy bait if you TR scum. Makes sense as both alignments for you to suspect me here.

"As both alignments" - you have ways to townread me in the current gamestate, this isn't something you should have said.

[clidd]

Let's have a chat, why you are acting like "omg, everyone is a suspect, there is a major plot going on"

I don’t buy that all of You/Dann/Isis/GC are town and correctly TR’ing each other while scum is in somewhere like Hectic/Walter. Even if say Walter is scum that makes 2 mafia in the aforementioned group. And you’re saying it’s unnatural for me to recognize this fact?

This is deflection in disguise.

The point is that you raised generalist doubts, of greater power, which does not sound natural to me. That's exactly what I did with Porkens, I don't know how you're coming from a town mentality here.

[clidd]

Clidd, if you don’t see that scum are in the towncore then i can only assume you are working for the scum in that group.

Ok.

[clidd]

You/Walter/empty slot is my solve.

I'm sorting between Cth and Dann if you're town on above ^

[clidd]

I just don't really think that you and Walter are both town.

There is a lot of towny impressions already for you two to be town.

[clidd]

It would make sense for you think that Walter is closer to scum, if you're coming from a town pov, considering that everyone should be giving mixfeelings to town!you.

[clidd]

If town!you compare Walter to others, I don't think you would go to the conclusion that someone is more scummy than him. Which is why I'm not understading your lack of vote there.

[clidd]

VOTE: Green Crayon
I would prefer this over Walter. There’s deepwolves somewhere. Only way to explain this "Everyone is so town omg this hard ;(" mood.

I don't think you are just blind to everything Hayasaka whote and what I'm thinking about the slot ^

Like, I know that GC is "weird", but I think you would think better about it. You aren't giving me the impression of someone trying to use every info to have better reads.

Your reasoning of

"i know something is going on.. you know ? I'm not teeling where and how, but there is something going on.. do you feel it ? tell me. If you feel, I'll explain to you"

is kind of outside of what I'm thinking town!you should act/think and very similar to how I would play as scum here.

[clidd]

If Walter flip scum what’s your next move in heaven phase?

If he flips scum, I'll look for associatives and reassess in general. It depends a lot on Hayasaka's opinion too.

[clidd]

She can have a different vision than me on this.

[clidd]

Everything about Hayasaka's opinions matter.

[clidd]

I didn't get the question.

[clidd]

And I'm thinking in a scenario where I go to heaven after a scum flip, but I still considering about sending GC.

[clidd]

So, what do you think about everything I said on you ?

[clidd]

I hope you don’t think scum is Walter/me/Hectic
Lazy solve.
Where is the scum Clidd?

Looking again, the right word here is correct/incorrect solve, not "lazy".

If town!you think I'm wrong, I don't see why you were going to use "lazy" to describe that.

I don't think that I should sound lazy from your pov, because everyone is giving me town feels besides you and Walter, so it's natural to think I would come to this solve.

[clidd]

Only way to explain this "Everyone is so town omg this hard ;(" mood.

And I believe you already have the impression that everyone is sounding towny.

[clidd]

You skipped the post where I say you two are not towns simultaneously ^

I am not saying that the two of you are necessarily partners, but there has to be a scum between the two of you.

[clidd]

And please, if you're town, you need to post way more.

If I don't get what you're thinking, I can't read your slot.

[clidd]

You/Walter/empty slot is my solve.

I'm sorting between Cth and Dann if you're town on above ^

Clidd, what are the teams if I/Norwee flip green?

Many teams. I was typing the possibilities, but I think it will be very confusing for you to understand and it will not be useful to read your slot at the moment.

[clidd]

And, as I said, you need to show that you're town.

I know you trust me, but I can't read you mind to tell if you're a demon or not.

[clidd]

Walter, here's an example that I imagine from your town!pov:

There is

4 towns

and

3 scums

bellow:

Clidd

- me
Cthylla
Dannflor
Isis
NorwegianboyEE
Green Crayons

WaltertheDunce

- you

Which means 3 scums among:

Cthylla
Dannflor
Isis
NorwegianboyEE
Green Crayons

If you townhunt/scumhunt, you can narrow down the PoE and find who is more likely to be town/scum.

That's what I want from you to see if you can come to a genuine conclusion or not.

[clidd]

And I know you are always townreading me here as town and scum.

[clidd]

That's all. I'm between Walter and Norwegian today.

Back later.

[clidd]

I'm back.

[clidd]

Walter, don't you think that Cth is more towny by tone ?

[clidd]

Norwee, there's one thing that doesn't completely make sense to me from your perspective

If Walter is low-hanging fruit and there is 3 scum in the block of [clidd/Isis/Dannflor/GC/Cthulu] then what exactly happened during the heaven phase. At various times there was moderate support for me, Isis, GC, or clidd to go to heaven, and yet Hayasaka ended up getting pushed there. What was scum doing from your pov? Because you and walter were both off wagon for Hayasaka

That's a good point.

[clidd]

- GC, are you there ?

[clidd]

I'm kind of ping-pong on Norwergian in this game.

[clidd]

He gone from null to very likely town, but then town to townlean, townlean to null and now null-scum.

The passage of time weighed heavily.

[clidd]

And I like Norwegian as a player and respect his game, but I can't ignore what I'm feeling.

[clidd]

Dann/Isis, what do you guys think about the pool of {Walter, Norwergian} ?

[clidd]

Not as a scumteam, but as available choices ^

[clidd]

I agree with Isis's pov and also with Dann about Norwergian being more able to verbalize if we are wrong on him than Walter.

[clidd]

[clidd]

Dann, if we hit scum today, do you see as a good move sending GC to heaven ? (In you opinion)

[clidd]

Don't worry, just do what you can ^

[clidd]

I have difficulty reading inside the interactions around the elimination of Word, considering that I was convinced that he was scum because of his uncharacteristic posts in the game. So it's possible that the majority of the votes on him were not in bad faith.

[clidd]

I think his flip scenario within the context of heaven is the path that was giving me greater comfort, as we would be able to help each other in the final sort.

But I agree that we need more impressions on him.

[clidd]

Hey Isis, do you share from the same pov as Dann ?

Pedit: Hi again.

[clidd]

I kind of want you and Dann to stay and help, but let's see.

[clidd]

I don't think my reasoning is normal for you to analyze rationally, GC. Feelings/sensations/imagination are not tangible.

[clidd]

Sounds offensive.

[clidd]

The term "low hanging fruit"

[clidd]

In my interpretation, but I believe it must be common in your language.

[clidd]

In my interpretation, but I believe it must be common in your language.

it's not a reference to testicles

fruit that hangs lower on the tree is easier to reach

i usually see it used to mean that something's too easy/too good to be true or worthwhile

You are reading my mind, I was scared when I saw the term

[clidd]

low hanging fruit is an english idiom but the way it's used very frequently in mafia kind of makes it a mafia specific term.

people use it to mean that in one particular game, a certain player seems like the easiest person to wagon in that moment. People don't usually call other people LHF with the suggestion they're vulnerable game after game.
But I'm stating the opposite position that I think Hectic is easiest to wagon less often than the average player. Even in Fusion mafia it took extra days for it to be happen.
I am LHF pretty often, it is not very hard at all to construe some of my idiosyncracies as scummy to one or two players in any playerlist and that's like all it takes?

Thanks

[clidd]

o /

[clidd]

By the way, I don't think GC will be ever a PoE choice for me.

[clidd]

Ehh

[clidd]

[clidd]

I'm feeling tired, actually.

[clidd]

I'm feeling that the consolidation is going to be at Walter.

[clidd]

He being alive to sort later will be a headache.

[clidd]

Part of me still wanted to do Norwergian, after all the negative points that I noticed in the last pages.

[clidd]

I'm not so adept at wall-post anymore, only if I really need it.

[clidd]

Walter, I think Norwergian is more scummy than you but I really didn't feel that your style will be ok to sort.

I was hoping that with the increase in your frequency I would be able to distinguish better, but the way you verbalize your posts is very easy to emulate as scum.

[clidd]

If we do Norwergian today and he's scum, that's great, but I'm trying to reason if the fact that I always played with Scum!Norwergian and never with Town!Norwergian is influencing me.

So the safer choice is you, if you understand.

[clidd]

But like I said, you're the only one that knows if I'm wrong or not on you. If you're town, that means that I will need to go to heaven tomorrow and then we will have lylo.

You can't just accept.

[clidd]

If you can fight back here in a way that I see that you're coming from a town mentality, I might reconsider.

[clidd]

Hum.

[clidd]

Dann, what do you think about everything Walter said ? does it sound towny ?

[clidd]

I'm kind of skeptical about his tone right now, not feeling townpings.

[clidd]

Cthylla, however, is giving me townpings.

[clidd]

I agree.

By the way, Norwergian is posting on other games but not here.

[clidd]

Yes, that's what I'm thinking too ^

[clidd]

I was waiting to see which way these votes would take.

I'm kind of surprise that GC is voting Cth, but whatever.

[clidd]

And Walter didn't fight back like I was expecting to see.

[clidd]

On the other hand, there is Norwergian to..

[clidd]

[clidd]

I have a theory about that

Which theory ?

[clidd]

The simple solution is Walter, I don't see anything outside that horizon today.

[clidd]

And it's strange that it took longer to Walter get a vote here.

If he's town, scum would just flash-jump on him.

[clidd]

He's like the best ML for today if he's town, and still, he didn't get to E1/E2 yet, which is making me think that the slow push doesn't make sense in a scenario Town!Walter x three scums.

[clidd]

So yep, more and more likely scum than not.

[clidd]

Hey GC, does Norwergian make sense as a partner to Walter (if he's scum) ?

[clidd]

The explanation I imagine is reverse psychology (wifom) if you're scum and didn't get a good push on you ^

[clidd]

I mean, I can see you being scum and not being bussed.

[clidd]

@Walter the point is that if you're town against three scums, why did it take so long for people to consolidate on you ? Why would the votes spread ?

The scum side has a motivation and a perfect condition to eliminate you, and this does not seem to me as a "keep him for later".

[clidd]

I mean, I can see you being scum and not being bussed.

fr walter is a perfectly adequate hell, but him not getting shoved down the stairs isn't AI

The problem is that I think the slot is too static to be town. Scum and town has reasons to be suspicious of him, but the hesitancy of votes seems to me to come more from town than scum, because town evaluates and reconsiders, while scum only tries to mask a push for reasons that seem "townys" or not suspicious.

Which makes me think is more likely scum not being pushed than town being ignored.

[clidd]

I know, but this is really off. The first vote on you(Isis) is more likely being from town, so town is starting you, not scum. Even when you flip, scum could've got away by using the same reasons as the towns inside the wagon, which is why it would be better for them to eliminate you than giving you a pass to play free.

[clidd]

It would be better if Norwergian at least post something.

[clidd]

VOTE: Walter

Sorry Walter, I can see through you.

[clidd]

Hayasaka, if somehow Walter is town, Norwergian is probably scum (if you're reading this)

[clidd]

Hayasaka, if somehow Walter is town, Norwergian is probably scum (if you're reading this)

But do a reread first, if you needed it.

[clidd]

I liked a lot Dann's last posts, by the way.

[clidd]

I thought the topic would stay locked, but this way is better.

[clidd]

I need to think.

[clidd]

I still think GC is town.

[clidd]

I still think GC is town.

And with he being town, there are three scum inside:

Isis
Dann
Cth
Norwergian

-

So, if you're town above ^ raise your hand.

[clidd]

I'm very serious on GC.

[clidd]

I assimilated and accepted that GC was town after our discussion progressed and how it influenced me to see Hayasaka as town.

[clidd]

You need to convince me that he's scum.

[clidd]

Just return to the beginning of the game and follow our discussion.

It's toxic if he did what he did as scum.

[clidd]

Dann over me ?

[clidd]

Actually, forget it. I don't think I want to talk with anyone right now.

I'll focus to find the others two towns and deliver to Hayasaka.

[clidd]

Hayasaka, don't draw conclusions from what people say today.

I'll work to see if I can find a correct solve and confirm if Norwergian is scum or not.

And will take another look on GC, I don't know anymore what is going here.

[clidd]

My problem with GC is that he's playing at a really low level. I have ignored all the negative aspects that he was exuding so far.

I felt genuine irritation and frustration from him when we discussed in the previous phases, but that shouldn't be an absolute divider of ideas for him about me. After all the time we spent in the game, him having Dann as more towny than me was a punch in my stomach.

[clidd]

It would be very toxic from my point of view he using personal traits that I was detecting to continue stimulating my cognitive process to interpret him as negligent town.

[clidd]

The worst scenario possible is he being scum, so the fact that I was protecting him all the time would generate motivation for the scum side to formalize a suspicion about me and discredit the impressions of the other towns about me.

With he being town, however, it isn't the worst scenario, but I don't really see how we would win with him. Besides me there are two others people alive, and not having collaboration from one of the remaining towns is a very strong lagging point.

[clidd]

I have no idea what your progression was on him, Hayasaka, but I struggled to tolerate him for a long time and it didn't stop him from trolling.

The more I try to get into it, the more my head hurts, because I have conflicting ideas about what my rational and emotional interpretation say. It seems that he is constantly trying to appear scummy and not collaborate on purpose, and this behavior within the town sphere, which you and I had speculated he was part of, does not make sense. It is playing against your own chances of victory.

[clidd]

My personal opinion is that he doesn't deserve to win if he's town, period. I don't want to work with him and I definitely don't care if he really feels bad or not. It's a rotten slot.

[clidd]

I'll just consider that he's scum because he WANTS to be seen as that.

[clidd]

so it isn't a matter of swapping clid instead of norwegian. i think it's cth + norwegian + <isis/clidd>. dann and gc are town in my book.

that was what broke my patience ^

[clidd]

Anyways.. I'll just ignore him for the time being. Like I always did.

[clidd]

He's not trolling, clidd. He is not intentionally trying to appear demonic.

Green Crayons, are you intentionally trying to look demonic?

clidd, you should tell us what you think of him after this is clarified for you.

I didn't ask your opinion.

Just read what I said.

[clidd]

Actually, just forget what I said.

[clidd]

I feel that in all the games I'm playing, I'm giving myself a lot of unnecessary stress. I'm not having fun when I feel obliged to maintain a standard of play or to analyze something.

[clidd]

Sometimes I just want to forget about thinking and play without commitment, but it seems that I have to get involved if things don't flow. That has been months.

And this is not not giving me fun.

[clidd]

I'm going to give someone else a chance, I need to review some things in my routine.

[clidd]

It isn't you only, GC or this game.

Your play here wasn't good, of course, but a larger set of factors is what is getting on my nerves (outside this game).

[clidd]

And your reaction to that was really bad. I'm thinking that you're just scum, but whatever.

It's not my problem anymore.

[clidd]

Everything that GC did make sense now, well played.

[clidd]

I don't know why you aren't worried about GC trolling in heaven. He's out of his mind in my opinion.

Green Crayons doesn't troll as town, clidd. He's a fairly serious player.

Any "trolling" you're detecting is scuminess, ya know, because he's a demon. You don't need to make excuses for him.

I wonder why I ignored that ^

[clidd]

Actually, you played on high level GC.

Low level was if you was town here.

[clidd]

I ended up having a psychological tunnel that you would be town.

So I ended up ignoring your behavior, thinking that it would be some particularity of your personality.

[clidd]

In any case, that was a high level play, because you played with my mind lol

[clidd]

By the way:

Well played, Hayasaka.

Good job Dunn and Cth. Thanks for replacing in DrDolittle.

[clidd]

I'm thinking of a better image to use.

And.. Sorry for replacing out. I have a problem with overloads.

[clidd]

Hectic stills pretty good. Hayasaka turned the god mod-on in heaven and Dunn was pretty consistent. I didn't see a lose there.

I think a good opening point for the scum side would be my support for the Town!GC and Town!Isis theory, but the fact that I replacing out ended up closing that window.

I still suprise that Isis was a demon.

Thanks for modding Morning

[clidd]

Yes, me too ^

I was more paranoid about Dann than Isis, to be honest.

[clidd]

And sorry Walter. It wasn't fair you going to hell.

[clidd]

Norwegian, why you are always scum ?

[clidd]

Actually, my reasoning makes no sense at all. If someone tries to follow, they probably won't, because I usually assume a big number of things that could easily be wrong.

At the point of suspecting someone who is suspecting me, this is more because of the empathic process I try to do, where I put myself in the other person's shoes and try to imagine whether it would make sense or not from their point of view (with the information available in the game/my posts) suspect me or not. If my imagination accuses you of having reasons to have me as a townread, but you're not using it, I'll be more inclined to think that you're scum.

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