In post 1165, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I should also point out that at the time you were both my top scum reads so that is why I was willing to consider it.
Haaaang on, if we were your top scumreads, why were you considering a Green Crayons heaven in 745?
This is answered in 773
Although a different idea, that of the scum bussing on word.
Haya was clear town for me but GC I was scum reading and I wanted to figure out how many scum was on word.
And whether it was two or three scum.
K that is a copy and paste pretty much.
It is not a very good reason to send someone to check some theory of mine about how many scum bussed when it does not tell a person who it is, particularly with a slot like GC.
In post 1178, Cthylla wrote:And you're right, that is a pretty terrible reason to heaven a top abyssalread. I don't get it.
This might make sense from an association perspective, but I think wanting to heaven town should override anything like that from a town-perspective, so it's a very unnatural thought to want to heaven him for those reasons.
In post 1173, Dannflor wrote:Norwee, there's one thing that doesn't completely make sense to me from your perspective
If Walter is low-hanging fruit and there is 3 scum in the block of [clidd/Isis/Dannflor/GC/Cthulu] then what exactly happened during the heaven phase. At various times there was moderate support for me, Isis, GC, or clidd to go to heaven, and yet Hayasaka ended up getting pushed there. What was scum doing from your pov? Because you and walter were both off wagon for Hayasaka
A little bit more townier than before, I think so.
Although it is not enough just yet to be a neutral read, although there may be an aspect of omgus in my read of cth.
963 is interesting. Morning seems to be implying Hayasaka could've been deceiving us, contrary to her flip saying she was Town. Do we think there could be some demonic (I can't think of an alternative word for demonic, please help if you don't like it, Isis) flip manipulators in this game?
seraphic
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 1177, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:@ Dann
I would likely vote for Cth, Norwee.
Somewhere within those two with an outside/miniscule chance of GC.
Why aren't you voting one of these yet? This is why I said it seemed like you were waiting for something, I get that you have lean scum reads on a couple slots, but I don't get the sense that you have any conviction about which slot should go today.
Which is fair, because I don't really have that conviction either, but I'm not sure you're really doing anything to remedy that either?
Walter has a bunch of posts that seem very off and much more likely to come from scum struggling to post than town, asking questions that don't matter and making surface level reads that can be justified in a basic way but seem unlikely to be the greatest thing a townie got excited about. Norwee has this overall arc of not really doing as much as everyone else all game and sliding into the PoE this phase out of attrition and now he's having some kind of tantrum about that status. Which is possible as town but serves his interests as cornered scum, and definitely can't be townread like solving. Which he fooled my by randomly doing one of the times I town read scumhim so .. confusing.
I think both Norwee and Walter are probably getting helled this game but Walter seems like a safer hell if we want to delay judgment day (which I think we do, but this is a tricky setup so maybe I have that backwards).
I have guilty feelings about Norwee similar to Hectic cause I have some bias towards policy helling him cause he just tricked me twice, but maybe he is just playing his towngame this game and the stuff I was townreading during heaven1 is cause he's just town. But this is a townsided setup where I can mishell him and still win pretty easily so I feel like maybe I'm more careless.
I would be voting Walter but I want GC participation this phase
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
Dannflor if Norwee and Walter had three stacks of Loved today who would you vote
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
"Well, I..."
"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
In post 1096, Dannflor wrote:You had Isis as super strong town enough to be heavenened last phase.
Can you talk about that read
I stand by my read at the time. But i don’t see any teams possible where Walter is just sticking out like a sore thumb. Which has made me paranoid of most of my TR’s. There has to be at least 1/2 scum in Isis/Clidd/GC/Dann from my POV and i think GC is the most sus.
In post 1115, clidd wrote:Let's have a chat, why you are acting like "omg, everyone is a suspect, there is a major plot going on"
I don’t buy that all of You/Dann/Isis/GC are town and correctly TR’ing each other while scum is in somewhere like Hectic/Walter. Even if say Walter is scum that makes 2 mafia in the aforementioned group. And you’re saying it’s unnatural for me to recognize this fact?
Norwee, what is your actual read on Walter? I don't buy the that the extent you're going to go to solve him is shelve him as LHF because you're concerned about wolves in "the town core." like obviously yes, from a town!you perspective there has to be scum within isis/clidd/gc/dann, but why is this what you're gunning for? And why does Walter seem to be simultaneously town and maybe-scum in your hypothetical worlds. If he's scum, why is he not the best elimination today so we can deal with the "deep wolves" later? If he's town, why is he town?
Un fourtunate that eliming me will bring on judgement.
I guess if people are that hellbent on eliming then haya you best prepare.
Alright dann
I am not waiting any longer but lack of conviction could apply to anyone not voting currently.
Agreed on gc VOTE: norwee
In post 1121, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Clidd, if you don’t see that scum are in the towncore then i can only assume you are working for the scum in that group.
In post 1196, WaltertheDunce10 wrote:I am not waiting any longer but lack of conviction could apply to anyone not voting currently.
Agreed on gc
VOTE: norwee
Dannflor if Norwee and Walter had three stacks of Loved today who would you vote
walter probably, it's both a safer elimination in the sense that I think it's likelier to flip red and also a slot that has less of a chance of showing me that they're town if I'm wrong
although I do think Norwee has made some very bad posts recently
