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[Nero Cain]

like if he said "Nero is scum so thus norway is town" then I'm his sole mislynch opportunity. But by being unwilling to make a call like that now he has 2 mislynch opportunities.

[Nero Cain]

Also, take a look @ what Glitch has pushed today. Me, MM, and Noway. Not counting myself, MM and Norway-other than superbowl they are the the 2 most pushed players. It's safe and limited in scope.

As for me, I know I didn't have a very good reason to vote norway hence why it was a fucking naked vote and I didn't push him. Do I strike people as someone that is afraid to use my words? It's an easy as fuck push to make (glitch pushing me for "bad reasoning"). Everything he's doing is low effort.

Also, I am/was getting a lot of town reads (although that's eroding a bit now that I'm hard pushing Glitch but that'a prob just his buddies coming to bat for him). The 2 players that are most familiar with me (Norway and CSF) are both calling me town and saying this is my town game. And Glitch is just sticking his fingers in his ears and ignoring his supposed team. I'm sure he'll invoke the "town should push what they want! but at a certian point that becomes unproductive and we prob crossed that threhold a good 10 pahes ago.

He's really really not town.

[superbowl9]

Nah nero I think you're wrong here and just being stubborn

[superbowl9]

Not gonna go into it because this is already dominating discussion and going point by point is useless work but I honestly think our time is better spent outside of this Cain/Glitch argument

[Pickaxe Pete]

haha whats up lapsa

Hi Ralph. You are a model of excellence. I can tell that you're used to the frenzied nature of this large game.

[Nero Cain]

Would you lynch him over yourself? I ask b/c I think you are the leading wagon still.

[superbowl9]

Yes lol

[I Keep Siteflaking]

I interpreted Glitch's commets as pushing to solve.
Nero interpreted Glitch's commets as pushing to lynch.
From that premise, Nero's logic makes sense.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Day 1 wagons are usually pretty nonsense esp in a large game.

[I Keep Siteflaking]

Would you lynch him over yourself? I ask b/c I think you are the leading wagon still.

Manipulation detected.

[Nero Cain]

Not gonna go into it because this is already dominating discussion and going point by point is useless work but I honestly think our time is better spent outside of this Cain/Glitch argument

I think I'm mostly done with my hyper posting and if were are going to spend the next 6 days talking about other things fine-and I could see how this glitch/Nero is maybe frustrating to other players but I sorta feel like no one does anything.

What non Glitch/non-Nero thing do you want to talk about?

[superbowl9]

How about MM? What's your read on that

[Nero Cain]

Would you lynch him over yourself? I ask b/c I think you are the leading wagon still.

Manipulation detected.

yes, I'm informing the guy that the game could possibly come down to a choice between him and Glitch. Clearly I'm manipulating him into voting Glitch b/c there's no fucking way he'd ever vote himself over glitch, nope I

have

to manipulate him into doing so.

[I Keep Siteflaking]

yes, I'm informing the guy that the game could possibly come down to a choice between him and Glitch.

Making him more likely to vote Glitch and less likely to create a new wagon.

[stan1ey]

if you know/think a pairing is impossible/unlikely to be S/S you don't push both, you pick on or the other.

ur just deliberately not listening to reason now

[Nero Cain]

I didn't like the case on him b/c I had felt like his town read on Pete was ridiculous and scum wouldn't say something so silly and attention-grabbing.

VOTE: RozyRoz

One balloon for you.

I see people.

Light townread on Pickaxe Pete because he actually tries to generate AI discussion and ignores the NAI stuff

but in hindsight maybe this was just a stupid joke? But wouldn't that be still kinda townie considering it would still be a ridiculous attention-grabbing post? Was there more to the case on him?

Wasn't the biggest fan of his posting against me?

Why is your list made of zero posters AND of active posters (looking at Norwee here) AND of medium-low activity people (like Glitch)?

I don't really understand this. Am I supposed to hunt from only one activity group or something? Also, Norway feels kinda active lurkish compared to early game but I do have town reads of various degrees on most active players.

as Norwee isn't really being pushed that much

norway is @ 2 votes.

all of Nero, Glitch, Bell would vote him...prob. If we all voted him we could make him the top wagon. There are maybe others that have expressed suspicion of him and would vote him. I don't think its that far fetched to think the guy could get lynched. But even if its not today its not like there is some statue of limitations on Glitch's accusations so

And since your case is weak, I think the first quote up there could very well be a deflection from an annoying wagon.

Maybe, maybe not, I don't know

... but I have doubts on Nero now.

Well I have doubts you know what you are talking about. If you think my reasoning on Glitch is weak fine but I'm doing my job and pushing my top scum read and trying to get town to go in the direction I think it should go. The only 2 other wagons are you and superbowl so you are kinda floating the idea that I am pushing Glitch to deflect from you or SB wagon but are being really really wishy-washy about it? (see bold) So I kinda don't get whats making you have doubts and it feels more like this was intended to litly defend Glitch than actully confront me with something that bothered you.

Also I had kinda felt like Glitch's hesitation @ joining the MM wagon made MM somewhat likely to be town. What do you think about that?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

scum wouldn't say something so silly and attention-grabbing.

Yay, I am getting townreaded for my fake claim!

[Nero Cain]

yes, I'm informing the guy that the game could possibly come down to a choice between him and Glitch.

Making him more likely to vote Glitch and less likely to create a new wagon.

So...if in the next 5 days and the two remaining wagons are Superbowl and Glitch

I'm

making him vote Glitch over himself? If you don't want the wagons to be Glitch/SB then why not start one?

[I Keep Siteflaking]

yes, I'm informing the guy that the game could possibly come down to a choice between him and Glitch.

Making him more likely to vote Glitch and less likely to create a new wagon.

So...if in the next 5 days and the two remaining wagons are Superbowl and Glitch

I'm

making him vote Glitch over himself? If you don't want the wagons to be Glitch/SB then why not start one?

Nah. The post felt like you are locking Glitch vs Superbowl as the only wagons for today.
VOTE: Lapsa I want to see if this wagon will make Lapsa contribute more.

[Nero Cain]

i think you are overestimating me. I have clout but I don't think I have enough clout to dictate who the wagons will be. Though I'll continue to advocate for a Glitch lynch over superbowl.

superbowl9 (5): stan1ey, 72offsuit, Marshmallow, Town looter, Fwesnid
Glitch (4): Nero Cain, NorwegianBoyEE, Bell, Cat Scratch Fever
NorwegianBoyEE (2): NoPowerOverMe, JacksonVirgo
JacksonVirgo (2): Pickaxe Pete
Lapsa (2): ralph217, I Keep Siteflaking
Nero Cain (1): Glitch
NoPowerOverMe (1): SJReaver
Marshmallow Marshall (1):Lapsa
stan1ey (1): superbowl9

Not Voting: LicketyQuickety, popopopopopopo, Ganelon

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Lapsa I want to see if this wagon will make Lapsa contribute more.

I don’t think it will. And Lapsa looks like low-hanging fruit anyway. A flip on them would give us nothing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Not familiar with Superbowl at all, but they really don’t look like scum to me.

[Nero Cain]

his avatar is scummy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Animated avatars are scummier.

[Nero Cain]

im sorry that i voted u. lets b besties.