Open 792: Masons and Monks GAME OVER

[Almost50]

It was cold on the

mountain

, perhaps a light coat was a bad choice.

Are you crumbing Monk?

[Almost50]

Does this guy ever get srs or is he going to meme the whole game

Too bad you asked "them" and "not me".

[Almost50]

@notscience: Why did you go silent? I just voted you for "a reason". Shouldn't you try to -maybe- show me why I might be wrong?

[notscience]

I was grocery shopping. Am I not allowed to run errands?

I want to see the games where you are getting your data from for your 80%.

[notscience]

73

The first vote count with the l-2 wagon. Brass has great vote counts that show you the last vote add by a specific player. So you can follow the links to each of the constituents of the hayasaka wagons.

We have-
Meta
Bringing something up and not articulating
Newb scum
Definitely doesn’t like axolotls
“Game is hard”

Which is such a broad rainbow of reasons it doesn’t really seem credible. Hence my confusion.

[Almost50]

So you DO know why each and every vote was placed on her. You just don't like the wagon/reasons. Why didn't you say something like "I don't like the wagon on Hayasaka" pr "This wagon is suspicious"... etc.?

[notscience]

Because I only start calling wagons ass when they’re on obvtown

And I talks how I talks

[Hayasaka]

None of your posts look like shit posts to me

Multiball is tricky because I have to ignore his read but also think about the circumstances surrounding it since the key difference is scum really want to survive. His read on me is easily real which is a bit awkward. Social tells won't work on a game with players who have 4+ years of experience.

I fully agree that first post I made in regards to agar was shit, I admitted to that pretty early on, before agar stated issues with my other posts. But it's multi-ball so his push on me being potentially being real isn't that surprising to me.

Although I will admit his posts regarding me "reaching" could be a valid take I look at some other arguments he is making and it kind of gives me a bit of a pause on how legitimate his push on me is. The 2 quotes below feel more scummy then wrong like he is trying to win a debate not solve the game..

- Speaking of, how closely are you reading this game? Other than your pensive dave interactions, it feels very much like you're focused on survival and analysis of your burgeoning wagon. How far out are you probing outside of those two pools?

The above is objectively false, I responded to everyone who made real posts in thread. I questioned NotSci and pushed Dav who wasn't even pressuring me.
He thinks I am scum but he is pushing me on what he can, not what would actually make someone scum.
This isn't even opinionated, it's straight up an invalid post for someone reading the thread.

I mean... Isn't that the exact shit you're accusing dave of? Posting noncommittal shit that can just be handwaved away?

Let's assume the statement is correct, I am doing what I am accusing dave of. If I think X makes someone scum I can do X by mistake it doesn't stop X from being scum indicative. It doesn't actually invalidate the statement I made.
Or the real world where he is just misrepresenting what is going on. Neither is a good look.

So in both worlds it feels like a "haha gotcha" moment and not a real take.

[Hayasaka]

I am all ears as to why those 2 quotes in question come from town and not scum.
People are explaining the Dave town read and I respect it enough to not go back on him without more info.
But "agar is town xD" just won't cut it.

[davesaz]

So am I not allowed to criticize lane wagons?

lane isn't even in this game (and hasn't been on MS for almost 2 years now), so he could not have been responsible for the wagon on Hayasaka

I thought traffic lane or swim lane for a bit when reading that post.
Forgot there was a player named lane.

[Hayasaka]

I mean I know I probably shouldn't post this.
But I guess an explanation could just be he is a mason and he just doesn't care what his push on me looks like since he just wants to "win".

[davesaz]

73

The first vote count with the l-2 wagon. Brass has great vote counts that show you the last vote add by a specific player. So you can follow the links to each of the constituents of the hayasaka wagons.

We have-
Meta
Bringing something up and not articulating
Newb scum
Definitely doesn’t like axolotls
“Game is hard”

Which is such a broad rainbow of reasons it doesn’t really seem credible. Hence my confusion.

I agree that looking at this is a good idea.
What's your take on those 5 players?
I'm not keeping track yet, it's too early for that, so I'll have to look. If I don't get hammered by work I'll try to do that today.

[Not_Mafia]

It's explicitly bad for town to shit post,

Okay boomer

[Not_Mafia]

1/3 chance of scum

I’m town so one of you must be by numbers and math

Math IS a science though.

[davesaz]

Maybe I don't need to look other than more closely reading AGar.
Dunnstral, AGar, SirCakez, Elements, dramonic
Historically hard for me to read, need to reread other than knowing the posting schedule is intermittent, very weak town, weak scum, insufficient data null.

In a 2v2 multiball game I would think at most 2 scum from different teams, and just one scum is more likely. Really cautious scum might not be on there at all.
If Hayasaka is scum (it is MB after all so probing questions aren't enough to clear anyone) then later unsupported votes could be scum catching a bus.

[Elements]

I want to vote Dunn

[Elements]

Dunn, come say something incriminating

[The Bulge]

a50 would normally be a townread for his shitposting but with this being multiball im leaning slight scum mhmmmmmm no questions

[The Bulge]

scared2post, elements?

[Almost50]

a50 would normally be a townread for his shitposting but with this being multiball im leaning slight scum mhmmmmmm no questions

Why does everybody seem to think I only #shitpost as Town? I had always thought it was NAI for me. Only 2-3 players seem to know the difference though (and they refuse to share )

[Elements]

scared2post, elements?

terrified

[SirCakez]

A50 looking like haya's buddy here

[SirCakez]

a50 would normally be a townread for his shitposting but with this being multiball im leaning slight scum mhmmmmmm no questions

I got this same vibe

[notscience]

@A50 I’m still waiting for the data to back up your statistics.

@Dave-

I like dunn so far. I like Agar so far. Everyone else hasn’t inspired a ton of confidence.

[Almost50]

A50 looking like haya's buddy here

Ohm damn! You got us. Sorry, Haya. I tried.