In post 895, davesaz wrote:So I was gonna check if Elements was coached in that game A50 linked, and there wasn't a mafia pt.
That game changes my Elements meta quite a bit. It's going to take a while to assimilate, but on ISO it doesn't appear Elements was a follower in that game.
Also I don't get if you're saying he's towny or scummy here
Hey Dramonic, here's how you handle questions like this.
You're exactly right, I'm not saying if he's towny or scummy. I really don't know what to think about it.
Probably need to reread, to find out if the feeling that he's strictly following is accurate.
Then need to figure out if he's consistently following, or if it's spread out some. And why.
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So? The point is he self-voted as Scum before. His "trust tell" form Gay Mafia is no longer valid. (You do remember why he was mod-killed in that game, don't you?)
In post 904, The Bulge wrote:who was it who said elements would be best kept past day 1?
I didn't say that per se, but I did acknowledge he is miselimination bait when he's town. Doesn't mean he can act as scummy as he is and be given a pass for it. Furthermore, he will still be miselimination bait if he is town, so it's best to take him out now, cuz scum are never gonna shoot that.
So? The point is he self-voted as Scum before. His "trust tell" form Gay Mafia is no longer valid. (You do remember why he was mod-killed in that game, don't you?)
it was never a trust tell
I refute that game
I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald All my completed games
1- I don't think you are town
2- The point was you will be saved for a later elimination if you are town (or even if you are not, since scum don't know who is town and who is on the other scum team)
Now, assuming you're town I'd strongly recommend that you revamp your playstyle. If you are ALWAYS being pushed as scummy, perhaps it's time to take a pause and try to pinpoint what it is you're doing wrong ALL THE TIME.
Let’s leave the tm game out of it.
A50 you said something D1 about elements that made me think you had a tr there. The read list comment. Maybe I misinterpreted?
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In post 914, davesaz wrote:Let’s leave the tm game out of it.
A50 you said something D1 about elements that made me think you had a tr there. The read list comment. Maybe I misinterpreted?
Um... I had to go back and ISO myself to know what you're talking about. I think you meant THIS
In post 236, Elements wrote:Let's hope it picks up after everyone gets night killed
Very odd thing to say. What are you thinking here?
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i am incredibly bad at day one analysis and don't think it helps me at all personally so i want it to end and for us to get some flips on the board to look at.
That's an impressive crumb! I'm going to town!bin you for it.
Which was clearly not serious.
HOWEVER, I did have Elements down as Town at some early point in the game (I don't remember why specifically and my ISO of myself didn't help refresh my memory. All I remember is I moved him out of the list and landed him second only to myself in my word file on the PC)
As for the readlist it was when I started SRing him actually
This is not true. I only asked SC to explain what he sees as "town shit" IV has done. Doesn't relate to my read on IV much but has everything to do with my ongoing duel with SC.
Again, which is it? Am I distancing from N_M or am I scum with dave? You still can't have both stances here.
Furthermore, you were voting dave, then you switched to SC, and then decided to switch your vote to me. How do you vote SC (with me) then decide to vote me (with SC) within 75 minutes and 2 posts a[art (yours and mine)??
In post 642, Elements wrote:completely unrelated, but how do you put images into posts?
You don't. They appear automatically when they system senses sincerity, which is clearly lacking in your posts.
VOTE: Elements
OMGUS + opportunistically voting LHF and all that lovely stuff.
Your turn
I may have had doubts after his 734 which I thought "may" be a crumb of Mason/Monk (referring to a ROLE not an alignment), but he sisn't eat a bullet at night so he is likely a Wolf-Mason or a Goon-Monk (Don't ask! This is my mind working it's magic as usual). Either way he continues to be scummy to the point I'd rather do scum a favour and eliminate him myself.
P.S. Regardless of his alignment, elimination ANY slot IS "doing Scum a favour" at this point. If it's a Town slot we are doing BOTH Scum sides a favour. If it's Scum we are doing the opposing side a favour. It's not a slip.
In post 739, davesaz wrote:Is this intended to be a general statement or special purpose?
If it's general I'd be concerned that it gives scum an excuse to not provide readlists either.
Even in the specific case that I can think of for a setup like this there are ways for a skilled player to avoid the pitfall.
It's special, and was directed at Elements.
A50, talking about this one.
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