Mini Theme 2158: Cards of Destiny Mafia Game Over

[Flavor Leaf]

I feel like Hayasaka is purposefully omitting details, and if Tris flips scum, the reasons can just magically be understood.

I want them understood before this day ends.

[Flavor Leaf]

If tris flips town*

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

I didn’t want to say it yesterday, but in no world did I think VMP was actually going to be shot at.

There aren’t enough roles claimed yet, and if there’s a protective on town, then by no means was VMP going to be shot at.

You are omitting details almost purposefully, I feel.

Why not? Our role wasn’t worthless with NM townflip? Or because I said you needed dead us to confirm your role?

We’ll never know because of Amy’s NA but we do know she was sr Tris so I really don’t understand why you’re doubting Hya’s claim? Also Dunn’s reaction to my asking if Tris had already submitted her “I do” really made no sense and why does Tris have a confirmation of that but we don’t?

Unless Gamma actually did BD Tris, it does fit based off of Amy’s ISO.

~M

[Gamma Emerald]

It seems like my thought about “whose agenda needs Amphy dead” resulted in the same suspects as this current line of thought is already on (me and tris) with like FL included on the side
VOTE: tris
Since both night actions and my own thoughts about who’d be motivated to kill Amphy line up to implicate tris there’s no reason not to vote here.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hayasaka claims Ampharos targeted Tris.

Gamma is claiming No Action.

So we know all Tris actions went to Ampharos.

KD, Myself, Gamma, Nancy, Jjh, killing Ampharos, effectively the town leader since you guys weren’t listening to me, and highest town reads besides like me makes it so Tris isn’t confirmed scum. Likely scum, fine, not confirmed scum, and the omitting of this fact, is why I believe Hayasaka is scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

I didn’t want to say it yesterday, but in no world did I think VMP was actually going to be shot at.

There aren’t enough roles claimed yet, and if there’s a protective on town, then by no means was VMP going to be shot at.

You are omitting details almost purposefully, I feel.

Why not? Our role wasn’t worthless with NM townflip? Or because I said you needed dead us to confirm your role?

We’ll never know because of Amy’s NA but we do know she was sr Tris so I really don’t understand why you’re doubting Hya’s claim? Also Dunn’s reaction to my asking if Tris had already submitted her “I do” really made no sense and why does Tris have a confirmation of that but we don’t?

Unless Gamma actually did BD Tris, it does fit based off of Amy’s ISO.

~M

Nah, Gamma, if scum, would have had to BD themselves onto KD/JJH/BEF/You.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m NOT doubting AMY’S night action.

[Flavor Leaf]

If I die tonight, kill Hayasaka.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VMP you did target Gamma last night right?

Apparently they did but have come up with the BS idea that I “didn’t post in the scum PT” last night which is absolutely idiotic given what I enjoy about this game nowadays

You knew I was going to TA you. Literally, I claimed that multiple times.

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

VMP you did target Gamma last night right?

Apparently they did but have come up with the BS idea that I “didn’t post in the scum PT” last night which is absolutely idiotic given what I enjoy about this game nowadays

You knew I was going to TA you. Literally, I claimed that multiple times.

~M

This is exactly why you never would have been killed if Gamma was scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

You basically have Gamma the option to be cleared.

[Flavor Leaf]

Like, I’m saying this one the most basic surface level I can.

Why is everyone considering Ampharos night kill not a possibility?

[Gamma Emerald]

And you also did not make it clear at all that not posting that night would cause a false inno?
Like, your claim here is just insanity. Why do I forgo communicating with my partner, which a) hurts coordination and b) makes the game less fun for me, off of a piece of role specifics you never made evident? If you’re not scum, you’re straight up playing awful.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m also pissed Gamma went to Tris after I explained why it isn’t a positive confirmation.

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I’m saying this one the most basic surface level I can.

Why is everyone considering Ampharos night kill not a possibility?

Amphy NK was possible
But it points to the same suspects as if it wasn’t and the same suspects we already have (me and tris)
So it’s not worth worrying about.

[Flavor Leaf]

Don’t come crying to me if Tris flips green.

@Gamma - if you are town, you better be bus driving me tonight

[Flavor Leaf]

Like, I’m saying this one the most basic surface level I can.

Why is everyone considering Ampharos night kill not a possibility?

Amphy NK was possible
But it points to the same suspects as if it wasn’t and the same suspects we already have (me and tris)
So it’s not worth worrying about.

It points to KD/Hayasaka/BEF/Jjh/Tris

[Flavor Leaf]

Thinking TrisScum kills Ampharos is surface level play.

The only way TrisScum kills Ampharos is if they successfully self directed them onto them.

Ampharos death 50% implies Tris DIDNT kill them.

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Why? I feel Ampharos was being town read heavily, i don’t understand why people think they weren’t going to get killed?

If Gamma is claiming Odd night.
Can someone explain to me the outcome he comes up both inno here and Tris is scum.

Please do not use the following statement "scum shot Amy" in that explanation.

Why can’t scum have shot Ampharos?

I don’t understand. They were likely the top town read and the person I was pushing.

I tr them but they were not even close to my top town reads: They were KD, BEF, Hya and jjh > Amy. I even asked Tris not to reveal anything I posted there to Amy because I was still slightly paranoid of her, especially after Tris told me that she claimed Lovers first and of course you were in my head with Gampharous, which confitms why I thought they didn’t make sense as buddies.

But we know what she flipped and scum!Tris would have to be insane to directly target her, so I really don’t understand how you’re arriving at that conclusion that it wasn’t literally her role and NA that got her killed. She made more than a few posts expressing her suspicions on Tris, so I think it fits.

The only thing I’m still confused on how does Hya know it’s impossible that Gamma didn’t BD her. I know you’ve already explained that @Hya but you you explain how that’s impossible? Thanks.

~M

This is not what I’m questioning at all.

Ampharos targeted Tris, this is fine.

Hypothetical ScumKD killing Ampharos is a possibility (among others, KD just came to my head first)

But what about that post that DnD made that was antipartnery and why did Dunn tell me he couldn’t answer any of my questions about the “I do” thing? And no offense you were dead wrong about Amy, so I’m definitely not sheeping you on Hya. I think Gamma pushing me and ludicrously twisting my words is scum indicative, so I really don’t understand why Hya is scum here?

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

Fuck this.

One fucking read doesn’t erase the game.

You all were fucking wrong on Not Mafia

[Gamma Emerald]

Like, I’m saying this one the most basic surface level I can.

Why is everyone considering Ampharos night kill not a possibility?

Amphy NK was possible
But it points to the same suspects as if it wasn’t and the same suspects we already have (me and tris)
So it’s not worth worrying about.

It points to KD/Hayasaka/BEF/Jjh/Tris

How?
Amphy’s PoE had me, tris, and you in it. Unless I’m missing something the core agenda to kill Amphy would be for her reads.

Btw if someone actually suspects me because of the aforementioned fact that Amphy suspected me, that would be less objectionable than what VMP is pushing rn

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

VMP you did target Gamma last night right?

Apparently they did but have come up with the BS idea that I “didn’t post in the scum PT” last night which is absolutely idiotic given what I enjoy about this game nowadays

You knew I was going to TA you. Literally, I claimed that multiple times.

~M

This is exactly why you never would have been killed if Gamma was scum.

We obviously didn’t die because of Amy. So your theory makes absolutely no sense.

~M

[Flavor Leaf]

I’m a fucking Jester coming from a completely unbiased POV. I’m going on VLA this week and probably won’t be back until Thursday.

Do whatever you want, but don’t @Me because of a fucking incorrect read on Day fucking 2.

[Flavor Leaf]

You guys just can’t comprehend simple logic

[Venus Mars and Pluto]

Like, I’m saying this one the most basic surface level I can.

Why is everyone considering Ampharos night kill not a possibility?

No one knew her role. If it weren’t for that, maybe but her role is real and she made several posts claiming she was becoming increasingly suspicious of Tris. I just don’t see how that doesn’t make more sense to you than Amy was the target.

And Amy kill in no way clears Gamma, because Amy was freaking self-redirector ffs.

~M