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506 - tell me how you "accidentally" press the n key in that convenient location when typing windows. The w and s key are on the left side of the keyboard. I absolutely thought it was intentional and the fake coverup made me more agry. So get out out of here with that. Not sure why you latching onto this kinda shit as "scummy". Wanna elaborate on that? What else I've done pinged you as scummy?
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Im back babyIn post 523, Flopz wrote:
Wow, he actually just memed and left. I was kind of waiting for something to happenIn post 518, Grumpy Cat wrote:Pretty sure Dogem is trying to distract us and lead us down random avenues of discussion so that we forget this is a mafia game and end up talking about Rastamouse for 10 days.
I had to play leagueAge of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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So alisae asked me to expand on my windows scumread.
I dont see anything conclusively scum motivated in this batch of posts. What i want you to focus on is however the instant scumread that windows explained. He starts off the discussion aggressively "To be honest, your recent spam of posts are not actually very helpful and just reacting to random things." which for someone you claim to be arguing with on good faith doesnt seem good. On top of that, his third post here says that ico never responded to him, and that it is only scum indicative. However, he did. Literally the post before that.
Its lazy, but thats ico for you. And its quite clearly a response, and saying otherwise is just misrepresenting.In post 213, Iconeum wrote:
thereIn post 206, WindowsXP wrote:Ico, do you think there is at least one scum in GC/Hop trying to pocket the other?
To be honest, your recent spam of posts are not actually very helpful and just reacting to random things.
Can you offer some analysis within those 2 slots?
You seem to be dislikingthe pressure thatPaladinis putting on Hopkirk, so perhaps can you elaborate on where you stand on Hop. Are you getting scumpings from Paladin because you think they are trying to LAMISTor because of their push on Hop?
After that, its reasonable to vote him back since hes saying ico didnt respond when he just did, and the only response ico gets after that is "omgus xd". I dont see how you as ico dont get pissed at this, on top of that weird disclaimer at the bottom which ico didnt do. I even thought he was memeing thereAge of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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Also,In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?
If you didnt want to risk alt slipping, you shouldnt have brought it up.In post 424, Grumpy Cat wrote:Who were you from Ico's previous games, XP?Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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I didnt say you were sus. I said if i had to make sense of a hopkirk kill it could only be you two, since you're the only ones that previously played with him.In post 445, Grumpy Cat wrote:Dogem saying we're sus because we both knew Hop and he was killed is pretty iffy, especially since I'd just been talking about how I don't think you ever kill Hop there. Like, why not talk to me about that, Dogem?
I dont think its reasonable to find scum just based off off this, but if i wanted to make sense i dont see anything else.Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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Dong - the reason I said that was because I was pushing Ico to do things that are more alignment indicative. Do you think because someone presents a case on someone and pressures them they are immediately calling for their head? Look at what O said right before i went to sleep the night ico got hammered. I said i was keeping my vote there as pressure essentially. People like ico try to cruise by by playing entitled and I don't like that kind of style since it removes alignment indication.
Grumpy cat- idk how many times i need to bring this up in games but my style changes based on who's at the table and what part of my gameplay im working on. Here i was trying to be less aggro and let discussion breathe. Do you think its scummy? Why?
As for fluff /meming being scummy - it depends on context. If done to obfuscate/dodge I'd say its scummy. I dont think its ~independently scummy~ if anything.
Best way to scumhunt in a mountainous is to look at who/what is being pushed and when. This is how I've seen effective town players do so.
Do you not see that I am pushing Ico to do more however with my vote? And when they get voted their reaction is to act entitled instead of answer.-
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Woah, not sure how I'm just talking about meta but whatevs. Yes it seems scummy, in how utterly out of proportion that was, and literally every other person here disagrees with your take that this was intentional.In post 525, WindowsXP wrote:506 - tell me how you "accidentally" press the n key in that convenient location when typing windows. The w and s key are on the left side of the keyboard. I absolutely thought it was intentional and the fake coverup made me more agry. So get out out of here with that. Not sure why you latching onto this kinda shit as "scummy". Wanna elaborate on that? What else I've done pinged you as scummy?
Flopz do you normally only hyperfocus on meta argumenrs? I see you've done so a lot on this page.
Your first question to Hop, 33, was ridiculous and I don't see how that isn't just forcing a disagreement so you can argue agaisnt him to make him seem scummy. Your attack on Ico also seems a little forced, especially when they did respond to you 213, you still said Ico was scum-motivated dodging and then you responded by attacking Ico for apparent bad faith.
Thewhoops, I checked the PM but didn't really check the PM, I really honestly don't know who dieddoes ping me as LAMISTy, where as a proud and upstanding Townie you of course wouldn't know who died as you were just peacefully sleeping in the night. It just felt off to me. And when confronted, you say, I have proof from other games but I'm not going to link them. Now that's a good meme“[Jellyfish] are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful.” ~ Mr. K. Dilkington.-
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You know what I'm actually really annoyed at this point. Im revealing what I want as a strategy. I want to get hanged today. I want a guaranteed ML. In exchange, you guys vote who I choose. Theres a 2/5 chance of hitting right tomorrow into a full win. Its easier for scum to obfuscate when they get elimed earlier. I am a firm believer of scum teams being much more obvious over time.
Finding 1 scum out of 6 should not be difficult.
As scum i would have done 0 analysis/interacting today and just pushed ppl to get me to L-1 so i can self hammer for 5 way and no real way to determine whoever my partner may be and go back to step 1.
Right now I'm looking at Paladin/Flopz/Dong as my scumpool. It's tentative for now but I can explain later.-
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Flopz
1. This argument sucks and you're wrong so if you wanna argue in good faith i suggest you drop it because what are you trying to say? That im partners with ico and its scum theater? Get outta here
2 - i didn't realize taking a solid stance on pushes was scummy sorry m8 I'll lrn2play
3 - just give this up. I do everything i can as town to fake a townslip if i can. In the last mini normal i never bothered checking other games for how many scum there were. Its a common thing more experienced town players do from epicmafia. Trying to do things that are townslips are not scum indicative for me. I dont care how you wanna frame it.-
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What? I'm actually baffled by how you can link anything I have said to this statement. You stupified me, amazin'In post 535, WindowsXP wrote:Flopz
1. This argument sucks and you're wrong so if you wanna argue in good faith i suggest you drop it because what are you trying to say? That im partners with ico and its scum theater? Get outta here“[Jellyfish] are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful.” ~ Mr. K. Dilkington.-
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Alright, the first point is fair and something I do too.In post 532, WindowsXP wrote:Grumpy cat- idk how many times i need to bring this up in games but my style changes based on who's at the table and what part of my gameplay im working on. Here i was trying to be less aggro and let discussion breathe. Do you think its scummy? Why?
As for fluff /meming being scummy - it depends on context. If done to obfuscate/dodge I'd say its scummy. I dont think its ~independently scummy~ if anything.
Best way to scumhunt in a mountainous is to look at who/what is being pushed and when. This is how I've seen effective town players do so.
On the second, could you explain why you were feeling scummy vibes from both Hop and I on day 1 after all we'd done was joke around in RVS? And then why you entered D2 saying you still think there's 1 scum in Hop/Grumps?-
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Im fine with lynching you, but no way am i throwing because you got tilted i asked for your main, the main that apparently played with ico and was the reason you pushed him. You're saying something logical and then asking for something irrational. That doesnt fly by me.In post 534, WindowsXP wrote:You know what I'm actually really annoyed at this point. Im revealing what I want as a strategy. I want to get hanged today. I want a guaranteed ML. In exchange, you guys vote who I choose. Theres a 2/5 chance of hitting right tomorrow into a full win. Its easier for scum to obfuscate when they get elimed earlier. I am a firm believer of scum teams being much more obvious over time.
Finding 1 scum out of 6 should not be difficult.
As scum i would have done 0 analysis/interacting today and just pushed ppl to get me to L-1 so i can self hammer for 5 way and no real way to determine whoever my partner may be and go back to step 1.
Right now I'm looking at Paladin/Flopz/Dong as my scumpool. It's tentative for now but I can explain later.Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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I dont remember a lot of alisae except es push on ico, which i actually liked. I thought posts like 275 and 280 were inquisitive without being overly aggressive. It ended too early for me to make any heavy statements, but i dont have a problem with alis d1 except for you know what.In post 481, WindowsXP wrote:There is enough plausible deniability that if you're going to try to use the lolhammer as an argument you are going to get no real conclusions.
Also your claim about what you'd do with Alisae as scum while simultaneously not really sorting em is odd to me Dong. How do you read the rest of eir D1 minus the lolhammer? Was it towny or scummy? Let's say that, theoretically, Ico was not at L-1 on D1 when alisae voted, and the game continued. Was their move there scum?
Let's answer some real questions about motives and analysis.
Where did I ever reach a final conclusion? I was offering a case against Ico and I was letting them refute it. Let's talk about that. Do you think my push was scum motivated? Why? What was suspicious about my posts?
Tell me what exactly struck you as scummy.
Also, important, do you think Ydrasse's d1 is town to you? They voted Ico too and did not declare L-1, and are a passive voice this game. I'm wondering what you may think about that slot.
Yes. Even if not scum motivated, it was done in bad faith. Posts like 206 prove that. I explained my reasoning already. Post 214 clearly reaches a final conclusion as well since you say theres nothing but scum motivation there.
I would also like to note im just repeating myself here. I already said everything i said here in 528
I think my votes on ali so VOTE: Windows
I think ydrasses d1 is awful. There is nothing for me to sort, its not_mafia levels of bad. I want to chalk it up to rvs, but so far i havent seen anything from her, and lurking seems like the winning strategy here for scum, so i do want to at least iso her once today. Do hold me up to it, i might forgetAge of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
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It's not the end all be all if scum gets lunched today, and "unless they wanna make us doubt an elim on them" is exactly why they could take this route as scum. What's so ??? about it?In post 541, Ydrasse wrote:i don’t see any reason why koba would lie about the style change and then offer to sac themselves after? like, unless they wanna make us doubt an elim on then for ??? reasons + trying to change their posting for this game is reasonable to me.
This is weird, but I kinda like your light suspicion on me actually.-
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I'm a fan of these kind of ~feelsy~ reads.In post 542, Ydrasse wrote:also my sr on you is for those reasons + generally you don’t... ~feel~ towny i guess? i dunno how to describe it but you’re setting off red flags this game.-
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