Micro 966 - DDD: DD? [game over!]

[Alisae]

I see nothing but scum motivation to dodge what I have asked of you.

Either you are extremely childish or you are scum trying to deflect from taking more concise stances.

[WindowsXP]

I'm nonbinary stop using masculine terms towards me.

[Alisae]

????

[WindowsXP]

i like to exaggerate early on to get shit moving. Get over it.
You voted and HAMMERED ico so something something glass house.
Its a manipulative tactic to make people contribute in the way i want when they are not doing so.

[WindowsXP]

alright dude

[Alisae]

tbh I really couldn't care what you identify yourself as

[Alisae]

Alright, someone let me know when or if we're flipping this slot.
I'm putting them on mute cause I don't really see any point to interact with them anymore and its kinda pointless at this point.

[Donempire]

dude is gender neutral

[WindowsXP]

I have consistently been wanting to utilize the mechanic in this game the whole game. I softed my intent to do this strategy at the start of d2. I talked about how its easier to hit just 1 scum in 2 scum in a small pool on d1. I have experience from many games of chat mafia where i have lost more games where i find scum easily on d1 and then fail to find other scum because they can easily deepwolf despite worse "odds".
You hang me->ydrasse probably dies-> hang dong -> town wins.
Dong has perspective slipped in his post abt me "gamethrowing" even.

[Alisae]

Dongempire what do you think of Ydrasse?

[WindowsXP]

Dogem, if you're certain on Wandows being scum, why don't you want to store him for a win tomorrow?

Hmm. I actually didnt think of it that way. Im assuming you mean like an emergency lynch in case we lynch town today.
Im fine with this idea. But i dont have any definite scumreads today besides windows, and while i do hsve townreads (ali, you) id like to get a read on ydrasse and paladin before deciding on what tactic to use.

Why do you townread ali and grumpycat?
Ydrasse has enough game related content to get a read on them. Whats your read on them?

Hey mr dude is gender neutral answer this

[Alisae]

I really hope you enjoy screaming into the void

[Alisae]

Dongempire don't even bother dude, he didn't answer my question about who he thought was town pushing him, and at this point he's just looking to blame whoever is pushing him.
I don't see any rational reason to talk to him.

[WindowsXP]

Stop misgendering me thx.

[Donempire]

Dongempire what do you think of Ydrasse?

I dont think much right now alignment vise. I was meaning to iso her after i was done with windows, do i'll get my thoughts ready at max tomorrow.

[Alisae]

I love it when whenever someone that I muted posts it says "SHUT THE FUCK UP FURRY" its fucking hilarious

[Donempire]

Dogem, if you're certain on Wandows being scum, why don't you want to store him for a win tomorrow?

Hmm. I actually didnt think of it that way. Im assuming you mean like an emergency lynch in case we lynch town today.
Im fine with this idea. But i dont have any definite scumreads today besides windows, and while i do hsve townreads (ali, you) id like to get a read on ydrasse and paladin before deciding on what tactic to use.

Why do you townread ali and grumpycat?
Ydrasse has enough game related content to get a read on them. Whats your read on them?

Hey mr dude is gender neutral answer this

Im going to sleep

[WindowsXP]

Dongempire what do you think of Ydrasse?

I dont think much right now alignment vise. I was meaning to iso her after i was done with windows, do i'll get my thoughts ready at max tomorrow.

Answer my questions too bud. Or did you pull those reads out of thin air?

[WindowsXP]

Classic.

[WindowsXP]

Alright, someone let me know when or if we're flipping this slot.
I'm putting them on mute cause I don't really see any point to interact with them anymore and its kinda pointless at this point.

You haven't even interacted with me in a meaningful way regardless so not sure what you're trying to accomplish.

[WindowsXP]

Dongempire don't even bother dude, he didn't answer my question about who he thought was town pushing him, and at this point he's just looking to blame whoever is pushing him.
I don't see any rational reason to talk to him.

Weird you're dishonest bc i said Grumpycat was but sure.
You tell me who's pushing me if you're so aware of it then?
Your town equity has sunk really low since your lolhammer. Honestly just wanna have you hanged d3 out of policy lmfao(after i flip town obv).

[WindowsXP]

I'd like to point out alisae "muted" me after I rebutted their weak argument and probably had nothing to say wrt it. I really dont know if this comes from a bad ego/pride thing or they're scum floundering but thats something important to note with alisae's push.
At some point occams razor kicks in and you have to acknowledge im town.

[WindowsXP]

At the very least it would be most plausible that Grumpy is attempting to pocket hopkirk if they are friends/ friendly with eachother.

Interesting you would think this; I had the opposite impression.

I mean if there is a pocketing attempt in your exchange with Hopkirk I don't think it is coming from you.

Why do you say its the opposite way?

Can you elaborate on that?

Paladin I'd like you to still answer this.

[WindowsXP]

There is enough plausible deniability that if you're going to try to use the lolhammer as an argument you are going to get no real conclusions.

Also your claim about what you'd do with Alisae as scum while simultaneously not really sorting em is odd to me Dong. How do you read the rest of eir D1 minus the lolhammer? Was it towny or scummy? Let's say that, theoretically, Ico was not at L-1 on D1 when alisae voted, and the game continued. Was their move there scum?

Let's answer some real questions about motives and analysis.

Where did I ever reach a final conclusion? I was offering a case against Ico and I was letting them refute it. Let's talk about that. Do you think my push was scum motivated? Why? What was suspicious about my posts?
Tell me what exactly struck you as scummy.

Also, important, do you think Ydrasse's d1 is town to you? They voted Ico too and did not declare L-1, and are a passive voice this game. I'm wondering what you may think about that slot.

reviving this because this was not answered as well.

[Piergeiron the Paladinson]

My apologies, I am still somewhat frustrated that I did not have the chance to play the first Day, and have hardly given this game a thought. Tonight I should set aside some time to read and immerse.

What do you think about alisaes hammer? About windows and icos back and forth? Any thoughts on ydrasse?

I have no reason to believe Alisae's hammer was anything but accidental.
I do not by any means have extensive experience playing with DkKoba but I know that what Ydrasse says is true, and they do have a rather uniquely defensive roguish playstyle. Nothing WindowsXP has done has struck me as absolutely scum-motivated.
Ydrasse will require an ISO read for me to form a proper opinion on her slot, but off the top of my head it is somewhat likely to me that she is mafia.

If we're reasonably confident on Wandows being scum, then it has better EV to lunch them tomorrow rather than today, since if their partner isn't just Ydrasse/Paladin and is a deepwolf (Dogem, Flopz, Ali), the game gets significantly harder.

The funny thing is, that Flopz is cleared as town unless he's scum with very specific people. One of those would be Wandows because I can see them forcing the nightkill through despite Flopz's protests. Ali maybe? But less likely. I don't see it happening with Ydrasse/Paladin, and I don't know about you.
Flopz independently never chooses to kill Hop n1. If you're asking for my read on him regarding stuff that isn't the nightkill, that'll have to wait until I give him a reread later.

This post is entirely conjecture and serves no purpose. Grumpy Cat, why do you think that I or Ydrasse would not convince Flopz to kill Hopkirk?

At the very least it would be most plausible that Grumpy is attempting to pocket hopkirk if they are friends/ friendly with eachother.

Interesting you would think this; I had the opposite impression.

I mean if there is a pocketing attempt in your exchange with Hopkirk I don't think it is coming from you.

Why do you say its the opposite way?

Can you elaborate on that?

Paladin I'd like you to still answer this.

I saw Hopkirk as more dominant in their exchange and as the clear leader of the Flopz smear hoax. As others had mentioned at the time, Grumpy Cat took a more reactive role in most of their joking back-and-forth. Not to say necessarily that Grumpy Cat was more scummy than Hopkirk, just that I did not see anything that looked to me like an active attempt at a pocket from Grumpy Cat.