If Ali thought e was placing the 4th vote onto him, it's unusual e doesn't announce L-1. Increased chance the story is BS and it was just a lolhammer e's masking as an accident now
Is this assumption based on your meta of Alisae, or on what you consider optimal town play?
In post 357, Alisae wrote:I had no idea I hammered Icon when I voted him I thought he had 3 votes at the time :/
Sorry
What, why didn't you announce L-1 then?
ok let me rephrase cause I meant to say that I thought I would be the third vote atm. I didn’t know dogempire or flops was still voting icon and I thought it would be L-2
In post 369, Alisae wrote:Like the only people who I thought voted icon at the time were Windows and Ydrasse
What paladin quoted made me curious and I found this.
This is actually hella scummy. I'll do a metadive tomorrow after work since i finally dont work a double tomorrow but i need to see their voting habits around L-2/L-1.
I am like 10 games in and the ego stinks really bad. I guess now i see how others may view my play on my main.
also ggez on my first scum win on this site against em
the one scum game i saw i see e is terrible at playing as scum and they typically dont even care abt checking votes b4 voting as town.
conclusion: alisae is probably town here. unless they are paired with ydrasse and they are distancing imo thats the only pairing i see possible with that.
also the number of times i saw "kekw" was extremely cringy. the fact we have 2 ppl like that here at this table like yikes.
anyways I still think dong is scum unless proven otherwise for the evidence i provided earlier.
ydrasse's analysis on me is accurate. I also think this is their towngame based on having played with them twice as well as modding a game they participated in( I think?) offsite. I've yet to see how they are as scum but scum!ydrasse could easily have framed me as scum and then pushed someone else on my wagon as scum. Unless it were to be alisae/ydrasse? that's the only scenario I really can see atm.
But why lie about the fact that you DON'T typically announce L-1 actually?
(i just realized this as I'm typing it and i looked up at my quote.) If someone can please quote this part for me and let alisae know i have an important question for em <3
paladin is somehow still null and i think possibly the scum from poe? i'm not sure.
flopz is super chaotic. I do think they are town however.
grumpycat town imo? just mainly the way they are approaching this game feels towny. and the thing I mentioned about scum probably being to self conscious.
so in conclusion I think I have the teams narrowed down(i kinda wrote and rewrote this as I went down when thinking of interactions and possibilities):
Dong + Paladin
Ydrasse + Alisae.
im leaning the top one rn. although im not as sure as I was before.
when i was going down the list, something just felt weird like the puzzle doesnt fit because the former doesn't match. Like the solve was wrong.
That's my aftework thoughts(im so tired i worked 15 hours and iwork tomorrow morning)
UNVOTE: I need more info today I'm gonna step back.
with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 1 ended.
After posting that I literally remembered it was both Ydrasse and Alisae that got Ico hanged on D1.
They both voted after me.
I'd like to apologize to you Dong for the shitpush I think I'm actually onto something here and I want to hear what you think. As well as the other people.
because i think the push by dong was narrow-minded and ignored other factors (like the entire wagon save alisae) + they were trying to put ali into a stance where eir only option was basically being on the defensive. i think that accidents happen (because i literally made one too!!!). i’ve found myself thinking similarly at points to ali’s posts.
i can’t live and die by ali being town anymore because yeah, that hammer happened and it’s going to be hanging over the rest of the game but outside of that i don’t think e has done anything scummy other than that?? and even then i don’t know if the hammer was a mistake.
the more i reread the less sure i am on the other slots being town i hate this game. im mainly looking at hopkirk rn and trying to see where scum were going with the NK. like why were they scared? I would have seen them as a good potential ML. But who was threatened? was it just an active slot eliminated??
lol like is paladin/ydrasse possible and they're just lurky so that we attack eachother? my brain whirs.
like, do you think ali and i are doing some one-way distancing here? run me through why ali can’t be with anyone else. (the only person i’d believe not with are paladin.)
It is mainly the interactions you have with them. You're defensive of them. Why is one way distancing out of the question? You have an excuse not to vote alisae in lylo and alisae's posts shows em as not having either a townread or a scumread on you, as e has expressed that they want more out of you.
I just can't get a good solve to save my life rn that makes me feel like it fits while rereading.
if you want me to be honest you posturing about that self vote and trying to get people to do it only to pivot in a totally different direction weirds me out and i don’t know if you planned it or this is just you doing something like you normally do
why can ali and i only be with each other? or i guess i can be with paladin too now for some reason too.
In post 383, Donempire wrote:I'm literally the first vote alisae, im the most sus person on that wagon? For an rvs vote and a hammer that then happens while im asleep? Defend your hammer, dont try to paint me as scum instead, it only makes you seem worse. So far the only reasoning you gave was "it was an accident", and if so dont you check VCs?
You seem the most sus person on that wagon because you enabled that wagon to reach 5 votes when you could have easily made sure that that didn’t happen by unvoting.
And how am I not supposed to see your slot and think that what you’re doing is strange? Not only did you enable that wagon to reach 5 votes, but you’re also coming into the day phase trying to label me as a liability and saying why its better to mislynch then it is to lynch scum. Like this is really strange because it feels like you’re not trying to find scum. Do you have any other suspects or am I your only suspect?
I voted Icon because I scumread him and he was acting weird in regards to Windows and I liked Windows the most between their discussion with Icon. Thats why I voted Icon and I didn’t realize I hammered until I woke up and saw that I hammered. I’m sorry. I fucked up.
In post 478, WindowsXP wrote:Alisae you have any analysis on slots that aren't mine? Especially considerint you lolhammered yourself
Ydrasse worries me right now. If you think about it, I don't really know what they've actually done in this game.
I'm worried that Paladin might have killed Hopkirk and I'm also getting worried that Paladin hasn't really done anything at all.
I think Dogempire is honestly fine, I feel better about them now that they weren't just trying to get me killed for being a liability.
I think Flopz's vote on you is very reasonable and considering I feel unsure about a lot of slots this and dogempire are the closest things I would call townreads atm.
I'm not sure if its Grumpy Cat because I think their push on you is weird, it feels like such a weird thing for you to fake that entrance when no one knows who you are and I'm not sure I like him pushing it. Like I don't see why you would fake that on an alt and doubledown on meta when no one knows who you are.
However on the other side of the coin, I'm not sure what I should think of you not announcing your vote would put Icon at L-2 when you were paying attention.
Though its also like you two are playing the game and at least are trying to scumhunt.
So I really feel like it might be Ydrasse and Paladin unless those 2 just start contributing something thats meaningful because Dogempire and Flopz seem fine, I like you, and Grumpy Cat feels like they're trying to play the game.
The fact they were aware that Paladin was the likely frame makes me feel like that is a purposeful kill to frame them. Because when I reread hopkirk I too was looking like "damn this looks like something either paladin or someone trying to frame paladin would do"
the more I read the more I think solve is {alisae, Ydrasse, Paladin} with alisae/paladin being the least likely team.
the fact that you’re doing a 180 here makes absolutely no sense to me. all that evidence you were sure about on dong suddenly vanishing into thin air for a new pool is what? a pool you think you can get elims in?
you just called ali and i town and then went nope, scum together and you’re refusing to say why we can’t be partnered with literally anyone else right now.