At the moment I have scumreads on Ydrasse and Dongempire, and I would like to look further into your ISO as well. The rest of the players I believe I am townreading. I hope to provide some more details and insight later today, I am however caught up and acknowledge there are questions directed to me that are as of yet unanswered.
In post 747, Grumpy Cat wrote:
Flopz HELP, give me some lighthearted vibes to encourage me to read through.
Sorry lad, Windows kind of tired me out and I didn't really want to have to wade through this mess. This is literally the reason I stopped playing after Team Mafia.
I'll hopefully go through the past few pages tonight and resume my usual posting
Unfortunately, phoneposting rn, will bring back those top tier gifs when I'm home.
“[Jellyfish] are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful.” ~ Mr. K. Dilkington.
@flopz can you at least tell me what you think of my last 2-3 pages of posts. I brought up important stuff. I want you to tell me if you agree if you agree with or disagree with my analysis and why.
In post 748, Donempire wrote:I should have known when he asked us to refer to him by them
It was excrutiating talking to you but it'll probably be hilarioud reading back with hindsight
Good job windows
I can see how that must have been a challenge for you. Do not fret, once your brain eventually develops to that of an adult I am sure you will understand the level of patheticness you are displaying here.
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Age of Empires Elo: 1500 something in DE, 1800 in HD
Formerly Dongempire
In post 748, Donempire wrote:I should have known when he asked us to refer to him by them
It was excrutiating talking to you but it'll probably be hilarioud reading back with hindsight
Good job windows
I can see how that must have been a challenge for you. Do not fret, once your brain eventually develops to that of an adult I am sure you will understand the level of patheticness you are displaying here.
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He's talking about you misgendering Windows. Your view on windows aside, it's common courtesy to use people's preferred pronouns. (windows you should add them onto your account so it's more visible)
“[Jellyfish] are 97% water or something, so how much are they doing? Just give them another 3% and make them water. It's more useful.” ~ Mr. K. Dilkington.
In post 752, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:At the moment I have scumreads on Ydrasse and Dongempire, and I would like to look further into your ISO as well. The rest of the players I believe I am townreading. I hope to provide some more details and insight later today, I am however caught up and acknowledge there are questions directed to me that are as of yet unanswered.
How do you see a dong/ydrasse team???? Honestly i dont vibe with it but individually i think ydrasse has been scummy regardless.
I see in dong the type of mindset i had in the mini normal i was in last on my main vs ico and in year of miccros against miccro mask, etc. So while i think they're playing obnoxiously similarly how I did in those games it still feels town motivated.
The way I read the gamestate right now, I feel like there’s 1 scum in {Ydrasse, Windows} because I don’t think Ydrasse responds to the way that she did to windows on pg 28 if they’re partners together.
I think Ydrasse is individually scummy. She has scummy pop ins and generally seems like scum who is just sitting on her hands doing nothing because she doesn’t feel obligated to do anything. I just don’t think its with Windows because her recent posting seems really weird to be partnered with Windows. It either seems like she’s setting up to vote Windows or she seems genuinely surprised at Window’s latest posting. Either way it just doesn’t seem like its aligned with Windows.
Like I’m super sure that 1 of those 2 slots is scum, what do you guys think?
Windows is scum, i thought we were past that. But i dont want to clear ydrasse yet, as this could be theatre. My main reason to think that is because windows called anyone that pushed its wagon every insult under the sun, but went surprisingky soft on ydrasse. I dont know if theres daytalk, there probably is, but even if there isnt they couldve been improvising. I think the fact that ydrasse pointed out windows' inconsistencies and windows is vehemently pushing to be lynched makes me suspect a windows/ydr team and they're setting up towncred later for ydrasse.
Hmm... I need to think about this some more because you present an interesting angle that I didn’t think of and I just woke up and need to make some food.
In post 721, Donempire wrote:You wait 3 minutes before chastising me for not replying. I dont check the thread every 5 minutes, and i dont have to. To add to that, i dont have to respond to any of your posts. I've said enough about you.
Dude seeing the amount of posts he puts out reminds me of what I used to be like on my first year on site holy that must have been annoying why do people like me.
Alisae I'm still scum but not scum with Ydrasse but Ydrasse is scummier? Care to explain this congnitive dissonance? Also I'm warning you last time, my pronouns are they/they them. I'm not going to repeat myself to you again.
You continue to ignore valid points made against you. You are floundering because you cannot find reasonable answers to the questions I pose to you.
While you try to pretend I am scum when I am able to explain all of my actions and their intent. Even if you want to claim to disagree with them I have explained myself.
I've explained myself many times and presented evidence to back up my points. It's actually really fucking annoying that those standards are not even enough for me for certain people and yet they think their views are more valid with lower standards.
Spoiler: a bunch of posts that alisae should have explained/answered but have not
In post 690, WindowsXP wrote:the more i reread the less sure i am on the other slots being town i hate this game. im mainly looking at hopkirk rn and trying to see where scum were going with the NK. like why were they scared? I would have seen them as a good potential ML. But who was threatened? was it just an active slot eliminated??
lol like is paladin/ydrasse possible and they're just lurky so that we attack eachother? my brain whirs.
In post 693, WindowsXP wrote:It is mainly the interactions you have with them. You're defensive of them. Why is one way distancing out of the question? You have an excuse not to vote alisae in lylo and alisae's posts shows em as not having either a townread or a scumread on you, as e has expressed that they want more out of you.
I just can't get a good solve to save my life rn that makes me feel like it fits while rereading.
In post 696, WindowsXP wrote:I'm just trying to wrap my head around why Alisae is trying to frame my push on Ico as scummy now when
a) e hammered them
b)
In post 383, Donempire wrote:I'm literally the first vote alisae, im the most sus person on that wagon? For an rvs vote and a hammer that then happens while im asleep? Defend your hammer, dont try to paint me as scum instead, it only makes you seem worse. So far the only reasoning you gave was "it was an accident", and if so dont you check VCs?
You seem the most sus person on that wagon because you enabled that wagon to reach 5 votes when you could have easily made sure that that didn’t happen by unvoting.
And how am I not supposed to see your slot and think that what you’re doing is strange? Not only did you enable that wagon to reach 5 votes, but you’re also coming into the day phase trying to label me as a liability and saying why its better to mislynch then it is to lynch scum. Like this is really strange because it feels like you’re not trying to find scum. Do you have any other suspects or am I your only suspect?
I voted Icon because I scumread him and he was acting weird in regards to Windows and I liked Windows the most between their discussion with Icon. Thats why I voted Icon and I didn’t realize I hammered until I woke up and saw that I hammered. I’m sorry. I fucked up.
In post 478, WindowsXP wrote:Alisae you have any analysis on slots that aren't mine? Especially considerint you lolhammered yourself
Ydrasse worries me right now. If you think about it, I don't really know what they've actually done in this game.
I'm worried that Paladin might have killed Hopkirk and I'm also getting worried that Paladin hasn't really done anything at all.
I think Dogempire is honestly fine, I feel better about them now that they weren't just trying to get me killed for being a liability.
I think Flopz's vote on you is very reasonable and considering I feel unsure about a lot of slots this and dogempire are the closest things I would call townreads atm.
I'm not sure if its Grumpy Cat because I think their push on you is weird, it feels like such a weird thing for you to fake that entrance when no one knows who you are and I'm not sure I like him pushing it. Like I don't see why you would fake that on an alt and doubledown on meta when no one knows who you are.
However on the other side of the coin, I'm not sure what I should think of you not announcing your vote would put Icon at L-2 when you were paying attention.
Though its also like you two are playing the game and at least are trying to scumhunt.
So I really feel like it might be Ydrasse and Paladin unless those 2 just start contributing something thats meaningful because Dogempire and Flopz seem fine, I like you, and Grumpy Cat feels like they're trying to play the game.
In post 706, Alisae wrote:Ydrasse if you’re getting upset interacting with Windows, its most likely because they’re just scum and its as simple as that.
Like its just pointless to interact with them since their reads and stances are just agenda based at this point.
What agenda? Care to ellaborate?
And now are you townreading ydrasse? What's your stance on her?
If you won't answer this coming from me, someone else will ask.
Why did you try to use something you were townleaning me for? Who's my possible scum partners in your view? You were angling on Flopz/Paladin earlier. Where did that go?
And voting me is playing into my hands ty <3 i still wanna be elim'd today so the info that im town will fuck up scum <33
In post 709, WindowsXP wrote:alisae unvoting ydrasse and offering 0 analysis on what has occurred is telling. Feels like alisae is aware abt the blunder i pointed out and is trying to avoid anymore of that by hiding behind a tunnel.
The more and more i think about it the more i feel comfortable with this solve. The reaction to me outting it from both of the top 2 slots i suspect together just sorta cinches it.
Literally evidence just points to you 2 open scumming d1 and then distancing d2.
If you think this pressure will disappear just bc im ML'd you're wrong kiddos.
In post 713, WindowsXP wrote:"I think ydrasse is individually scummy, windows isnt partners with ydrasse, and i think the mechanic sucks but I'm gonna vote for windows anyways" - alisae
In post 713, WindowsXP wrote:"I think ydrasse is individually scummy, windows isnt partners with ydrasse, and i think the mechanic sucks but I'm gonna vote for windows anyways" - alisae
Also to add onto this: alisae claimed to be ignoring me and had me muted becauae they thought i was scum.
Lets see what excuse they have now.
the big one being the post about ydrasse they made. feels like a panic post where they accidentally slipped and now are trying to cover up. don't think you can get away with explaining how you reached that conclusion even if you want to claim that isn't your conclusion now.
In post 752, Piergeiron the Paladinson wrote:At the moment I have scumreads on Ydrasse and Dongempire, and I would like to look further into your ISO as well. The rest of the players I believe I am townreading. I hope to provide some more details and insight later today, I am however caught up and acknowledge there are questions directed to me that are as of yet unanswered.
can you explain why you are townreading the rest of the players? just a short paragraph for each one with the general reasoning at minimum would be appreciated.
LOL i just read a game for this setup where town won. They literally did the 2 NL strat that I proposed and won by hanging scum d3.
I'm trying to gleam more info about how this setup turns out. focusing on the mechanic is definitely good. I'm about to read the 2 scum wins but the 1 town win funnily enough uses the exact strategy that I proposed.
The mechanic of lylo where scum is not able to bus at all makes scum a lot more obvious. as soon as a vote goes up and theres scum between the 2, there's a 50/50 and scum cannot feasibly bus there. but with a ML available and scum not being able to bus on d3 it becomes painfully obvious i feel.
we should have NL d1. shame we didn't. I'm still offering myself up so we can have a lylo with 2 scum still.
The way I read the gamestate right now, I feel like there’s 1 scum in {Ydrasse, Windows} because I don’t think Ydrasse responds to the way that she did to windows on pg 28 if they’re partners together.
I think Ydrasse is individually scummy. She has scummy pop ins and generally seems like scum who is just sitting on her hands doing nothing because she doesn’t feel obligated to do anything. I just don’t think its with Windows because her recent posting seems really weird to be partnered with Windows. It either seems like she’s setting up to vote Windows or she seems genuinely surprised at Window’s latest posting. Either way it just doesn’t seem like its aligned with Windows.
Like I’m super sure that 1 of those 2 slots is scum, what do you guys think?
Windows is scum, i thought we were past that. But i dont want to clear ydrasse yet, as this could be theatre. My main reason to think that is because windows called anyone that pushed its wagon every insult under the sun, but went surprisingky soft on ydrasse. I dont know if theres daytalk, there probably is, but even if there isnt they couldve been improvising. I think the fact that ydrasse pointed out windows' inconsistencies and windows is vehemently pushing to be lynched makes me suspect a windows/ydr team and they're setting up towncred later for ydrasse.
Grumpy what do you think about what these 2 posts are talking about?
Okay, I agree with the logic Windows/Ydrasse are very unlikely to be partnered, but knowing this info makes them actually slightly less optimal to lunch, independent of their individual scuminess, since they have less possible partners.
Are you suggesting it's better we lunch in them because of the not SvS thing? Because I don't get that reasoning.
