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JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6000 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:20 am

You SR more

outside

of the red-check?

Titus · Post Post #6001 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:24 am

In post 6000, JacksonVirgo wrote:You SR more
outside
of the red-check?

Yes because I don't have you as locktown.
Glitch I am pretty sure is town.
You v Ralph would ham it up more if S v S. Ralph would have a definite strategy. Here the guilty seemed to surprise him, like he thought you'd check town.
If you v Ralph has just one scum and Glitch is town, Looter must be scum. His play is scummy. His role claim is scummy.

Glitch · Post Post #6002 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:25 am

In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .

Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?

ralph217 · Post Post #6003 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:16 am

In post 6002, Glitch wrote:
In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .
Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?

yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

like how jack did earlier here:

In post 2687, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

I sense this is gonna be the wagon for tday

In post 2691, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2689, Bell wrote:No more votes until claim.
>:)

VOTE: 72offsuit

ralph217 · Post Post #6004 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:17 am

In post 6001, Titus wrote:
In post 6000, JacksonVirgo wrote:You SR more
outside
of the red-check?
Yes because I don't have you as locktown.
Glitch I am pretty sure is town.
You v Ralph would ham it up more if S v S. Ralph would have a definite strategy. Here the guilty seemed to surprise him, like he thought you'd check town.
If you v Ralph has just one scum and Glitch is town, Looter must be scum. His play is scummy. His role claim is scummy.

whats the case on loots? why is his clime scummy?

Titus · Post Post #6005 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:26 am

In post 6003, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6002, Glitch wrote:
In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .
Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?
yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

like how jack did earlier here:

In post 2687, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

I sense this is gonna be the wagon for tday

In post 2691, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2689, Bell wrote:No more votes until claim.
>:)

VOTE: 72offsuit

Townies faking l minus 1 is common for reactions or to get people to claim.

Titus · Post Post #6006 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 5:28 am

In post 6004, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6001, Titus wrote:
In post 6000, JacksonVirgo wrote:You SR more
outside
of the red-check?
Yes because I don't have you as locktown.
Glitch I am pretty sure is town.
You v Ralph would ham it up more if S v S. Ralph would have a definite strategy. Here the guilty seemed to surprise him, like he thought you'd check town.
If you v Ralph has just one scum and Glitch is town, Looter must be scum. His play is scummy. His role claim is scummy.
whats the case on loots? why is his clime scummy?

He claims night 3 gunsmith yet doesn't suspect the real gunsmith's claim is fake. He denies fakeclaiming too.

He's largely sat out of lylo willing to vote anyone and is shading everyone. He's trying to pick his 1 v 1.

Glitch · Post Post #6007 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:13 am

In post 6003, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6002, Glitch wrote:
In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .
Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?
yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

1) why is that scum indicative?
2) who are people trying to get a reaction out of when they take l1 or fake hammer?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6008 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:40 am

In post 6003, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6002, Glitch wrote:
In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .
Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?
yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

like how jack did earlier here:

In post 2687, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

I sense this is gonna be the wagon for tday

In post 2691, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2689, Bell wrote:No more votes until claim.
>:)

VOTE: 72offsuit

That example is clearly a joke

Town looter · Post Post #6009 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:05 am

Sorry guys, work is kicking my arse, so I don't have time to reply right now.

We've got exactly 24 hours and I still haven't made my mind up. I will try and do as much as work and life allows for.

Town looter · Post Post #6010 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:12 am

TBF you don't need me to make my mind up. Worst case, if we only have two votes tomorrow because scum is trying to get the timer to run out I will hammer whoever has the votes 2 hours before deadline.

Town looter · Post Post #6011 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 11:20 am

In post 6006, Titus wrote:
In post 6004, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6001, Titus wrote:
In post 6000, JacksonVirgo wrote:You SR more
outside
of the red-check?
Yes because I don't have you as locktown.
Glitch I am pretty sure is town.
You v Ralph would ham it up more if S v S. Ralph would have a definite strategy. Here the guilty seemed to surprise him, like he thought you'd check town.
If you v Ralph has just one scum and Glitch is town, Looter must be scum. His play is scummy. His role claim is scummy.
whats the case on loots? why is his clime scummy?
He claims night 3 gunsmith
yet doesn't suspect the real gunsmith's claim is fake
. He denies fakeclaiming too.

He's largely sat out of lylo willing to vote anyone and is shading everyone. He's trying to pick his 1 v 1.

Regarding highlighted: Banking on people not reading my ISO eh?

Spoiler:

I can dig up more examples if you like as well. I was highly sceptical of their claim. But I also was not confident that two different types of gunsmith in the same game is impossible - and turns out that lack of confidence was well justified, as that is exactly what we have.

Glitch · Post Post #6012 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:51 pm

In post 6009, Town looter wrote:We've got exactly 24 hours and I still haven't made my mind up. I will try and do as much as work and life allows for.

6007 is my last question I need Ralph to answer before I am ready for today to be over. Hoping he answers tonight. I have been holding back a few things to say until Ralph answers.

Glitch · Post Post #6013 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 12:53 pm

^Not withholding information. Just withholding opinions until Ralph answers. Need one quick Ralph. Particularly just want to know who is the target of pressure when declaring fake l1 or fake hammer?

Town looter · Post Post #6014 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:53 pm

Ralph's argument is pretty bad, he obviously completely missed the context around Manatee's VC and the DDL elimination - it was a messy phase of the game due to mod error. So in isolation looks like inexperienced scum scrambling for a case. In fact it kinda looks like he was scrambling for a case in a place that was suggested by someone else (JV has a whole lot of posts, so it would be logical to build a case from page 1 no?).

That being said, JV keeps pinging me - in fact he has being doing this the whole game. Nothing definitively scummy, but there are these minor inconsistencies and things that bug me. But really this could just be a playstyle thing, because he has done some very towny things too... There is also the elephant in the room that is his claimed PR... it just seems so powerful in the scheme of things.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6015 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 6014, Town looter wrote:Ralph's argument is pretty bad, he obviously completely missed the context around Manatee's VC and the DDL elimination - it was a messy phase of the game due to mod error. So in isolation looks like inexperienced scum scrambling for a case. In fact it kinda looks like he was scrambling for a case in a place that was suggested by someone else (JV has a whole lot of posts, so it would be logical to build a case from page 1 no?).

That being said, JV keeps pinging me - in fact he has being doing this the whole game. Nothing definitively scummy, but there are these minor inconsistencies and things that bug me. But really this could just be a playstyle thing, because he has done some very towny things too... There is also the elephant in the room that is his claimed PR... it just seems so powerful in the scheme of things.

I always play relatively "scummy" if you check back in a few of my Town games you can see that as well. If you want I can quote a few examples of people saying how scummy I play and how I should probably change my playstyle as it's bad.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6016 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:11 pm

I forget which game I specifically am remembering being called out, but I'm searching

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6017 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:16 pm

I literally can't find the game for the life of me

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6018 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:21 pm

This isn't THE game I am talking about but it's a game where I am town and SR'd to oblivion, although it's fairly old now.

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6019 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:30 pm

Anyway I tend to blurt what's on my head and let gut take a lot of priority in my reads. I think I've said this before?

Glitch · Post Post #6020 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:31 pm

Looter, ISO shelly and look for her talking to JV. That's what has made JV my top TR. Because while shelly freaking bussed the shit out of other scum, she laser focused PR hunted JV relentlessly.

I will be back in a bit but I'm officially done waiting on Ralph.

Intent to vote Ralph in 9 hours

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6021 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:37 pm

I'll await patiently

Town looter · Post Post #6022 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:40 pm

In post 3385, JacksonVirgo wrote:I am mean >:)

Humour me here JV. Why did you make this post?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6023 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:41 pm

In post 3384, Bell wrote:He said he was gunna say stuff when he got back.

@virgo you’re mean.

Though yeah, there’s bullshit in these woods.

A joke response to this, I have no idea what the context was as I don't remember. Do you want me to look back on the context to try and remember?

JacksonVirgo · Post Post #6024 (ISO) » Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:46 pm

Actually I don't think I knew the context when I said it I just replied to Bell to not be awkward and ask. I don't remember really though so that's just a guess