Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.013
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	Nosferatu	EL-6	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	PenguinPower	EL-6	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Pine	SirCakez, Gamma Emerald, Ydrasse, JohnnyFarrar, CreativeMod1	EL-2	3	3	4	Pine
Bingle	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	None	EL-7	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	None	EL-7	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Ydrasse	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Ydrasse
JohnnyFarrar	Bingle, Fun and Games, Albert B. Rampage, I Keep Siteflaking	EL-3	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Pine
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-11 20:28:04)
Notes: PAGETOP! PenguinPower V/LA until Oct 6 pagetops: Lilith 14 | penguin 9 | cm1 2 | ABR 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 1 | johnnyf 1 | nosferatu 1

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yo welcome Nos

[Gamma Emerald]

Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.

Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.

you can just leave the labs to me
I was gonna ask JF to maybe give me his +1 but he's already given it to Nos (which iirc wasn't great because I believe Nos expressed something about his knowledge not being super important)

[JohnnyFarrar]

He asked for it

[SirCakez]

why is ydrasse clear again?

[Fun and Games]

we're still sus of johnny but on balance feel worse about abr

VOTE: abr

~ skitter

[SirCakez]

down to vote any of (abr, pine, penguin)

[SirCakez]

before someone "calls me out" or some shit Penguin is in there because of POE. I feel the active players trying to solve the setup in this game are quite townie.

[Gamma Emerald]

I understand your suspicion of Johnny. It's a good catch

link to VC on this page

care to provide your own thoughts on the matter, beyond just agreeing with F&G?

[Gamma Emerald]

He asked for it

I have also asked for it before that point :/

[Gamma Emerald]

doesnotcompute
I've been all over Pine for pretty much the whole game.

And yet you launched a weird post my way that seemed to be trying to shade me while painting Pine as town
Why would you do that if you have scumread Pine the whole game?

[Gamma Emerald]

Man and I was genuinely worried I'd be rusty and not active enough for this game.

Iks having any confidence that a nighttime pile on would work at all in this setup reads as scummy to me

Cmod is so absent after his claim and is only doleing things out in a drip feed and I hate it.

Pine, we've got 5 days. If you're not feeling it, make yourself a nice meal and come back later.

Ally B-Ram should tell me why I'm getting voted in his own words. Next VC will reveal I'm at least telling one truth and I'm starting to get listless

CMod is undeniably town imo
I'm curious as to the exact logic of how suggesting a pile up is scummy. I'm not saying it's wrong, in fact I'm quite open to the thought and slightly agree. I just want the full specs on the process that makes it scummy.

[Gamma Emerald]

we're still sus of johnny but on balance feel worse about abr

VOTE: abr

~ skitter

why does balance implicate ABR?

[SirCakez]

doesnotcompute
I've been all over Pine for pretty much the whole game.

And yet you launched a weird post my way that seemed to be trying to shade me while painting Pine as town
Why would you do that if you have scumread Pine the whole game?

what post are you referring to?

[JohnnyFarrar]

2 things

it inspires a bunch of people to NOT destroy labs/ explore rooms / etc which is something scum would like

AND it either shows us that he's confident he knows how the night will go (which none of us should be confident about) or he just knows... which makes him scum

P: this is at gamma

[Gamma Emerald]

2 things

it inspires a bunch of people to NOT destroy labs/ explore rooms / etc which is something scum would like

AND it either shows us that he's confident he knows how the night will go (which none of us should be confident about) or he just knows... which makes him scum

P: this is at gamma

yeah this checks out
I don't recall anyone anywhere expressing much desire to do what IKS said was the case

@Cakez one sec

[CreativeMod1]

Can I recommend that in terms of labs, we don't put all our eggs into 1 basket

There is always the risk of the room blocker ruining plans or there could be a normal role blocker out there who could ruin things, so having 2 people trying for rooms could be a good idea anyway

Also, I have now sent out my homing pigeon, if whoever has it trusts me, I'd very much a message back informing me of anything that could be useful, just so I've got an idea of what's going on...I realise that's super vague but I hope that person knows what I mean

[Albert B. Rampage]

VOTE: Pine

[Albert B. Rampage]

I will probably attack Fun and Games tonight.

[Gamma Emerald]

wait no I misread the thing I thought was shade entirely

[JohnnyFarrar]

Wuhh

[Gamma Emerald]

How do you know scum attacked you and not a townie?

Cakez asked this towards me, and on my initial read of it I thought "and not a townie" was meant to be an alternative clause to the word "you", when it was an alternative clause to "scum". I think I thought this because I recalled the fact doctor have a factional attack that just shows up as being done by a doctor, so I figured that was self-evident, thus pushing me towards thinking the other part of the action (the target, rather than the attacker) was the one an alternative was being presented for

That should effectively cover what I mean.

[Fun and Games]

we're still sus of johnny but on balance feel worse about abr

VOTE: abr

~ skitter

i meant the phrase in the sense of 'holistically' and not in the sense of 'wrt the setup'

why does balance implicate ABR?

I will probably attack Fun and Games tonight.

go on

~ skitter

[SirCakez]

*nods*
Yeah another thing I missed, the factional attack flavor...

[Gamma Emerald]

Is it stupid to townclear Cakez for not being aware of that btw? I think scum would be extensively aware of it