Mini Normal 2169 : random facts, game over !

[Alonzo]

I agree that ur name doesn't belong there but user's entire play so far has been towny. I think user just has ..... bad reads but that's seems to be it.

however I could be convinced that he has been TRing a lot of townies in hopes of pocketing

Yep. Good spot.

[Alonzo]

Why aren't you voting noraa?

[Noraa]

town is already in a shitty position imo. we shouldn't give scum opportunity to quick hammer ... ever

[Alonzo]

Oh? I didn't think you scumread teacher, thought you wanted TGP?

[Alonzo]

You could vote there *fairly* safely

[Noraa]

im not willing to risk it and yes ur right, I sr TGP

[Alonzo]

town is already in a shitty position imo. we shouldn't give scum opportunity to quick hammer ... ever

When did I become the nooby in this dynamic?!

I'm just gonna sheep you for a bit, and if I lose I can blame BM so all good

[Alonzo]

I'm already to salty at the prospect of him misleading us deliberately to solve straight

[Noraa]

I think scum messed with his night actions

[Alonzo]

I think scum messed with his night actions

This means identifying him as cop, and having the means to flip a result and or the means to guess his target

[Iconeum]

wow and if teacher was scum do u really think he'd be so dumb as to claim a scum role?

can you like

just

stop talking

please

[Iconeum]

it's early morning and i'm reading and ur just…

i really wanna put this nicely

ehm

wrong about a lot of stuff and need to reread this game when it's done and learn from it

[Iconeum]

hm idk I just feel like vts are ... pretty rare

you really need to stop talking

you already admitted you are a newb

this just proves it

people with a LOT more experience are telling you what a normal setup is (3-4 town power, rest vt) and you instantly push back saying 'dude no vts are super rare'

[Iconeum]

deathtunneling is generally done by town. its not poor town play, its townie fire

wait

[Iconeum]

ctrl + F 'tunnel' in noraa iso

i don't know how noraa thinks tunneling is a townie trait, when she scumread BM hard for it

Spoiler:

BM light tunneling on page three is not a good look either.

I dont have any finished TOWNGAMES. However I do have 2 finished scumgames and am currently in 5 games. If you wish to take offense to my reads, then do as you please I dont particularly care ^^

BM is basically only focusing on me and ngl that strikes me as pretty scummy considering I'm prolly one of the newest players in general in this game and I definitely strike most people as LHF first impression. Tunneling this early into the game is just a huge scumtell imo.

VOTE: Battle Mage

All Datisi did was vote without giving a reason. Thats at most a little antitown/scummy. I dont see why I am expected to SR him after slightly Fosing him over that. Bm on the other hand I do find scummy. The tunneling is definitely not a good look imo. Whoever said that I should find both Datisi and BM scummy, I dont see why encouraging OMGUSing is a good thing...

Is Menalque the only person that saw those pushes on me as far far far too aggressive? Especially for 7 pages into the fucking game?

If yes, idk what to say about this playerlist anymore. Y'all can just lim me so I dont have to suffer thru a game with such a clear obvscum that just tunnels and tunnels the shit out of LHF Noraa.

Im feeling a slight lean town lean on golden, as if golden was partnered with either of bm or noraa i just dont think he would come in and push the fresh idea that they are just scum getting in early bussing.

Especially after choosing to vote for the one with the largest wagon. Of the two players he has stated as being svs. And not only that but a fourth vote on the first wagon. An ice breaker often done by town.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two.

Golden is a townlean because he isn't scum with Noraa? eh, I don't know man, needs a re-think. Noraa and me is either T v S, or T v T. In either case, scum benefit from pushing the S v S agenda to guarantee at least 1 mislynch, if not two


I'm leaning towards it being tvt. My gut keeps telling me that noraa is just a fellow townie who has made a bad early push. Certainly the possibility that its tvs as noraas push was rather scummy. But the fact she didn't try and back track on her push on you. Even when she was asked why she thought it was scummy rather than just anti-town. She continued to push a set of reads on you that ultimately stemmed from that flawed premises.

I dont agree with this. I can definitely see why people would SR my tunneling however it was far less aggressive than BM's tunneling. And tunneling that hard in the first ten damn pages is not something town would do bc town know literally nothing about the setup and are lost asf before some flips. I could see scum doing it but I can't see town doing that. I dont see how my logic is flawed. Tunneling that aggressively is definitely a scumtell.

[Iconeum]

Noraa why didn't you townread BM? He deathtunneled you (according to yourself), so why did you scumread him if you consider it a town trait?

[Iconeum]

I think scum messed with his night actions

it was already claimed why BM faked the guilty

nobody messed with anything

[Iconeum]

massclaim needs to continue before i say something else

[Iconeum]

mena goes before me

[Iconeum]

alonzo high levels of town ping on the last couple pages btw

the way he is handling noraa is screaming town to me

noraa is... i don't know. I think she's just town, that isn't making any sense. The takes are so wild, I don't think scum would fake those.

[Iconeum]

noraa, if we wanna win this

there is gonna come a point at which we are gonna have to work together

reread my interactions with you and tell me straight you think that i'm scum trying to manipulate you?

[iamausername]

sort of expected there to be a little bit more discussion weighing up the pros and cons of massclaim, and not everybody jumping straight to it on my say so, but ok.

i'm a VT too.

[Datisi]

zzz ok something's fucking with my reads here
note for post-mass

glorified prodge, today has been a weird day for me and it's almost 3am, i'll be useful tomorrow

am vt

Tell me everything you don't know about menalque when you wake up please and thanks

sorry, not sure what you mean here? also why the vote/unvote?

ico telling noraa she's wrong on a lot of things when he was saying "there was no double kill on n1 therefore we don't have a vig" is hilarious
regardless of that, ico, what *is* your current read on noraa? last i remember, you were scumreading her?

[Iconeum]

noraa is... i don't know. I think she's just town, that isn't making any sense. The takes are so wild, I don't think scum would fake those.

[Iconeum]

n1 AND n2 no double kill