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JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:48 am

In post 5925, ralph217 wrote:
In post 5661, JacksonVirgo wrote:@Looter. Sure if it's a blind vote it's 33% but obviously this is not a blind vote at all. From my perspective the solve is fairly simple and it's essentially a 66% chance to hit scum within my poe. I have serious serious doubts thinking anyone is scum within looter/titus and that leaves a pool of 3. One we can pop today and the other I can solve with my check if the wifom goes our way

pedit: I do see your point but I still think it's just as safe to just lynch ralph here, they're pushing an anti-town agenda especially with a vote on them.
this makes me like loot though . loots is arguing for the no elim and it relly looks like jack is trying to talk him down here . maybe its jack + glitch then . dont need to figure that out today though

That's a cheap one. Saying I was shading Glitch and now yeeting them into the scumpile with me

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:49 am

In post 5927, ralph217 wrote:
In post 3356, JacksonVirgo wrote:DoLittle could very likely be scum here, might as well pressure for a claim.

VOTE: Dolittle

This is now E-1

In post 3407, JacksonVirgo wrote:Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle

In post 3544, JacksonVirgo wrote:Oh that wasn't hammer?
this is the thing that made me townlock jack !!!! i thought there was no way scum would hammer a buddy after they climed cop like that but turns out it was fake cuse jack was lready on ddl … im so dumb

This is WRONG. I unvoted them, but nice cherry picking posts

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:50 am

It's literally a few posts after I initially voted

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:53 am

In post 5929, ralph217 wrote:
In post 3368, DrDolittle wrote:Fuck off I'm not interested in claiming

In post 3369, DrDolittle wrote:Ok I cooled off. Its pretty clear that I'm a *very* good PR, and I really don't want to out, unless someone specifically requests it. My clown apathy play is not to draw a NK, and I figure I can avoid ML since this game is a large. I'll give my by and large thoughts tomorrow since it's 3am here

In post 3370, JacksonVirgo wrote:Another vague PR claim
UNVOTE:
oh nvm jack does unvote here rip . still the unvote is scummy itself like hes expressing annoyabnce at the pr clime being vague but he unvortes anyway

Ah I see, that point is void. However, why would I unvote as a scum buddy only to hammer them again. If scum!me was willing to bus, why wouldn't I keep them at L-1 and push for a full-claim.

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:55 am

Ralph. You do realise that my vote on DDL was hammer and the mod screwed up. Dude the bottom of the barrel is only so far and you're already further than it

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:56 am

Ralph, why are you trying to convince

me

that you're Town. Your "keep reading!" posts are giving that impression

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:58 am

In post 5944, ralph217 wrote:there are NO votes between the vc showing ddl on l-4 and jack voting him and saying hes on "l-1" . it is OBVIOUISLY afake one for reactions right ? but then jack later on climes he really thought ddl was on l-1 all those times and though he was relly hammering here when ddl was still on L-4 cuse the town had been playing assuming jacks l-1 was legit which he shuld KNOW is not cuse it was obviously fake:

In post 3407, JacksonVirgo wrote:Sorry if wrong but I don't believe a word of any of that.
VOTE: DoLittle
comeo n guys !! i believe in you that you can see how obvious of a discrepancy this is ! i actually belive now !!!

How is this ever a discrepancy?

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 2:59 am

In post 5965, ralph217 wrote:
In post 5963, JacksonVirgo wrote:Ralph, why are you trying to convince
me
that you're Town. Your "keep reading!" posts are giving that impression
you ddint know that jack . the previous vc shows ddl was on 6 votes not 9 . don't tell me now that youre climing you knew the vc was wrong all along but didnt say anything ?

What

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:01 am

In post 3341, Town looter wrote:
In post 3324, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3257, superbowl9 wrote:
In post 3252, DrDolittle wrote:
In post 3250, superbowl9 wrote:I think dolittle deserves to go today over stan actually assuming glitch is legit, I think stan will provide more AI stuff as it goes on and certain stuff is making me question my SR
i told you im not planning to effort at this stage of the game for a variety of reasons
Stuff like this I say 1 passive sentence about how I scumread you and you appear from the ether to throw an excuse at me. Didn't help your case with this one
VOTE: DoLittle
You are probably my strongest town read right now so I am going to follow your lead.

VOTE: DrDoLittle

L-2 I think

In post 3342, Town looter wrote:Yep, L-2

THESE are the posts I was calling L-1 from, didn't read the VC obviously and your point is invalid

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:05 am

In post 3357, Fwesnid wrote:This is an intent to hammer post.

In post 3372, stan1ey wrote:
In post 3369, DrDolittle wrote:Ok I cooled off. Its pretty clear that I'm a *very* good PR, and I really don't want to out, unless someone specifically requests it. My clown apathy play is not to draw a NK, and I figure I can avoid ML since this game is a large. I'll give my by and large thoughts tomorrow since it's 3am here
VOTE: DDL
we cant just keep having people soft claim mystery roles and then move on we are just gonna keep going round in circles until we lynch a vt or someone quickhammers. I guess youre prolly sleeping but you gotta claim when youre back

In post 3373, stan1ey wrote:L-1 no votes until DDL is awake

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:05 am

Oh look. Fwes and Stan are both scum too because they missed the obvious VC at the top of the page

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:06 am

Would someone else be able to chime in because this talk will go nowhere quick

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:09 am

Yes. Scum!me would definitely create a reaction test with a VC right above that. Even IF I was, it would have meant I missed that VC anyway otherwise how retarded would that be. Which again makes your point invalid. Also if I was planning on faking a reaction test with DDL why would I get DDL to claim. This is literal flailing

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:13 am

I'm off to sleep now so goodnight everyone, if you do hammer ralph before I get back. I'm going to perform actions according to my plan, which is protect Glitch. Take your time of course, I probably won't be posting much unless I am explicitly poked.

I'll be reading the game though on my breaks (from work)

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:14 am

In post 5979, ralph217 wrote:fun fact:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing

wot

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:15 am

In post 5982, Glitch wrote:
In post 5955, Titus wrote:whiteknight
Can someone define this term in context of mafia please?

When a player heavy defends another I believe, could be wrong

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:24 am

In post 5984, ralph217 wrote:
In post 5981, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 5979, ralph217 wrote:fun fact:

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Flailing
wot
accusing someone of flailing is actually a scumtell haha . psyche compiled the stats

You're gathering these small things that aren't really AI at all and shoving them in peoples faces hoping it will catch on

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:25 am

Did you not read my exact response to that

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:34 am

In post 5992, ralph217 wrote:
In post 5990, JacksonVirgo wrote:Did you not read my exact response to that
i did and i think youre lying . youre scum with ddl and definitely gonna know how many votes hes on . especially when you suspposed ly "hammerd"

So in extension you're calling Looter scum. Even though you said that Glitch is my partner.

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:38 am

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:40 am

I'm going to choose to just ignore whatever point you're making about that VC since you literally are grasping at straws.

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:20 am

You SR more

outside

of the red-check?

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:40 am

In post 6003, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6002, Glitch wrote:
In post 5989, ralph217 wrote:the point of the case is that i dont he mistook the vc as its huge and on the top of the page and just 5 posts before jack posted . assuming he missed it is giving him the massive benefit of the doubt .
Okay. So you believe JV intentionally faked declaring L1. Why? For reactions?
yes just like any of the other times people fake l-1 or fake hammers

like how jack did earlier here:

In post 2687, JacksonVirgo wrote:VOTE: 72offsuit

I sense this is gonna be the wagon for tday

In post 2691, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 2689, Bell wrote:No more votes until claim.
>:)

VOTE: 72offsuit

That example is clearly a joke

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 3:58 pm

In post 6014, Town looter wrote:Ralph's argument is pretty bad, he obviously completely missed the context around Manatee's VC and the DDL elimination - it was a messy phase of the game due to mod error. So in isolation looks like inexperienced scum scrambling for a case. In fact it kinda looks like he was scrambling for a case in a place that was suggested by someone else (JV has a whole lot of posts, so it would be logical to build a case from page 1 no?).

That being said, JV keeps pinging me - in fact he has being doing this the whole game. Nothing definitively scummy, but there are these minor inconsistencies and things that bug me. But really this could just be a playstyle thing, because he has done some very towny things too... There is also the elephant in the room that is his claimed PR... it just seems so powerful in the scheme of things.

I always play relatively "scummy" if you check back in a few of my Town games you can see that as well. If you want I can quote a few examples of people saying how scummy I play and how I should probably change my playstyle as it's bad.

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:11 pm

I forget which game I specifically am remembering being called out, but I'm searching

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:16 pm

I literally can't find the game for the life of me

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:21 pm

This isn't THE game I am talking about but it's a game where I am town and SR'd to oblivion, although it's fairly old now.

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 4:30 pm

Anyway I tend to blurt what's on my head and let gut take a lot of priority in my reads. I think I've said this before?

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 7:37 pm

I'll await patiently

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:41 pm

In post 3384, Bell wrote:He said he was gunna say stuff when he got back.

@virgo you’re mean.

Though yeah, there’s bullshit in these woods.

A joke response to this, I have no idea what the context was as I don't remember. Do you want me to look back on the context to try and remember?

JacksonVirgo · Mon Oct 05, 2020 8:46 pm

Actually I don't think I knew the context when I said it I just replied to Bell to not be awkward and ask. I don't remember really though so that's just a guess

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:35 am

Good luck fam, stick to the actions

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:37 am

Those actions being

Glitch targets Titus/Looter
Titus targets nobody
I protect Glitch

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:39 am

Ralph217 has been eliminated! They were a

Mafia Dead

uwu

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:39 am

Am I allowed to be posting after a hammer

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:44 am

Wait, Titus being confident that Ralph flipped scum makes me cautious

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:59 am

Hey Glitch wanna chat until the game locks?

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 1:59 am

Imagine if I just won here >:)

jkjk... unless

I haven't but that would probably make you hate me forever lmfao

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:47 am

In post 6047, Titus wrote:I pmmed the mod we have a flip so we can confirm if I was right putting you as locktown.

Yeah I did that immediately after you hammered

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:49 am

In post 6052, ralph217 wrote:gg i tried my best well i tried hard enough probably to not feel to bad about this .

loots and jacks im guessing .

There's no chance that it was a fake hammer no need to feign it, or are you doing it for the lulz

Either way, you did play really nicely and I feel you shouldn't feel bummed about it. Everything was against you and you still fought

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:51 am

In post 6058, ralph217 wrote:what if im a supersaint and titus is also ded

Supersaint is a town exclusive role iirc, also it's not a normal role

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:52 am

Vengeful is also town only, also I doubt two would be in a game.

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:54 am

In post 6066, ralph217 wrote:hey titos . im eve btw didnt use any vca this time though :/

So you're an alt? uwu

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:57 am

In post 6070, ralph217 wrote:
In post 6068, JacksonVirgo wrote:
In post 6066, ralph217 wrote:hey titos . im eve btw didnt use any vca this time though :/
So you're an alt? uwu
arent we all alts deep down inside ?

Indeed, I'm the alt of Ralph217

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:58 am

In post 6071, Glitch wrote:Holy freaking shit what is about to happen

What do you mean? We're going into the night, make sure to wifom well my friend

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:58 am

In post 6073, Glitch wrote:
In post 6065, JacksonVirgo wrote:Vengeful is also town only, also I doubt two would be in a game.
Kinda lile 2 gunsmiths....

Two gunsmiths and two roles that scum can't effectively lynch in LyLo is wayyyy OP

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:11 am

It's me and looter uwu

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:11 am

jkjk, I am trying to stress glitch out

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:35 am

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:36 am

Not gonna lie, this game had be super paranoid the entire time holy shit. Also I don't see how we won with the PR's we got vs what town has like oh god

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:37 am

In post 6086, Glitch wrote:INCREDIBLE

Sorry for the betrayal

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:38 am

In post 6088, Titus wrote:I am pretty shocked we won this given how loaded town was. Jackson really carried.

I don't see how I carried but thanks

All the mafia did a really good job! So did town!

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:40 am

I really am curious how the neighbourhood and dead PT's went down. Also fyi. I have over 200 posts in the mafia PT where nobody has more than 100. I post a lot

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:40 am

In post 6092, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Actually i think Titus was rather obvscum in the later days. So town not voting her out was a big dumb.

Yeah I was hoping town wouldn't push that more after you got popped

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:41 am

Seriously ralph, you did really well considering

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:43 am

In post 6100, NorwegianboyEE wrote:With Titus dead Jackson might have been snuffed out too because they'd have to keep up an appearance of always being roleblocked or something dumb like that.

Exactly why I was pushing against Titus so hard until I had a reason to yeet a town more.

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:44 am

Titus yeeted us to victory by switching the kill to ydrasse

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:45 am

Guys I knew all of the Mafia I am so good at scumreading!

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:51 am

I was considering claiming a clear on Titus instead of a red on Ralph.

Also my "doctor soft" from ages ago was actually going to be a soft for Odd-Night Doctor Even-Night Motion Detector which is why "I will see ifyou move" was there. Although that changed when I was gonna yeet DDL and also the MD claim would have gotten me yeeted so fast with Glitch there.

pedit: A50 I assume you're upset :c

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:54 am

In post 6114, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Mafia isn't just about being right A50, but convincing others you're right.

I learned this from my first normal where I got yeeted D1

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:57 am

Thanks everyone for playing, it was a really nice experience.

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 3:30 pm

Thanks for hosting and backup hosting

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 06, 2020 9:11 pm

In post 6180, Nero Cain wrote:I kinda fee like MM should have tried to get lynched @ some point andused his venge.

What would be the benefit outside of just shooting who they'd plan to kill?

JacksonVirgo · Wed Oct 07, 2020 7:20 pm

I think I pushed against a Titus shot because I was gonna heal Titus. Maybe that stopped them uwu

JacksonVirgo · Wed Oct 07, 2020 10:32 pm

Thank you for everyone that played, I love every one of you (even you a50 uwu)

JacksonVirgo · Tue Oct 13, 2020 2:13 pm

Woah I had mod bias and didn’t even screw it up! This game was amazing thanks for hosting it