Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[lilith2013]

V OTECOUNT 2.028
P LAYER N AME	C URRENT V OTES		S TRENGTH	S PEED	K NOWLEDGE	P LAYER N AME
Gamma Emerald	Nosferatu	EL-6	3	2	4	Gamma Emerald
SirCakez	None	EL-7	2	3	3	SirCakez
CreativeMod1	None	EL-7	3	3	3	CreativeMod1
Albert B. Rampage	Fun and Games, Noraa	EL-5	3	3	3	Albert B. Rampage
Chara	CreativeMod1, I Keep Siteflaking	EL-5	3	3	4	Chara
Bingle	PenguinPower, JohnnyFarrar	EL-5	3	3	3	Bingle
Nosferatu	None	EL-7	3	3	4	Nosferatu
I Keep Siteflaking	Albert B. Rampage	EL-6	3	3	3	I Keep Siteflaking
PenguinPower	SirCakez	EL-6	3	3	3	PenguinPower
Fun and Games	None	EL-7	3	3	3	Fun and Games
Noraa	Bingle	EL-6	3	3	3	Noraa
JohnnyFarrar	None	EL-7	3	3	3	JohnnyFarrar
Not Voting	Chara, Gamma Emerald
With 12 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate. Deadline: (expired on 2020-10-12 23:12:18) paused at 1 day, 16 hours
Notes: Deadline is currently paused while I search for a replacement for Nosferatu. pagetops: Lilith 22 | penguin 10 | ABR 4 | johnnyf 3 | cm1 2 | gamma 2 | gb 1 | fun & games 1 | nosferatu 1 | bingle 1 | iks 1

[Albert B. Rampage]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

You say you want a chara flip but once chara starts racking up votes, you immediately try to start a new wagon. what's up with that?

whats up with you not reading the game?

FOS Noraa

[Gamma Emerald]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

Still haven’t bothered to read but I agree IKSF is not doing town things rn
VOTE: IKSF

[Noraa]

not reading the game = scum?
when did this become a thing?
I have 8 games going on rn. U really want me to carefully read 49 pages?
sorry but absolutely not.
You can tell me specific pages or ISOs that I should read but I'm not reading 49 pages.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ally is vigging chara tonight

[I Keep Siteflaking]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

You say you want a chara flip but once chara starts racking up votes, you immediately try to start a new wagon. what's up with that?

ABR, may I ask you for your read list? You don't have to put everyone there, just people you have read on.

[Albert B. Rampage]

no

[Noraa]

Ally is vigging chara tonight

I missed a claim rip. Wait do nightkills even exist in this setup?
If they don't, then he just claimed cuz there's no harm
if they do, then he was put at E-1 and forced to claim in which case I would want to go figure out if the wagon was started by scums.

[Gamma Emerald]

You can attack someone at night but it’s not a guaranteed kill unless you have beeg damage

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ally is vigging chara tonight

I missed a claim rip. Wait do nightkills even exist in this setup?
If they don't, then he just claimed cuz there's no harm
if they do, then he was put at E-1 and forced to claim in which case I would want to go figure out if the wagon was started by scums.

He had some votes, don't remember how many, but he claimed cuz he could. He had been oozing confidence all game and it was creepy

[Noraa]

lmao ok then.

[Albert B. Rampage]

We can lynch IKSF or Penguin. Make your choices.

[SirCakez]

I can do IKSF

[Fun and Games]

not good

Not good = mistakes

OR

Not good = they're partners

P:Edit: I like this VOTE: Bingle with one eye still on the Hydra

I don't think we ever changed our vote back

VOTE: johnny

your case on us was poor, and you basically have no reason to scumread us as far as i can tell
you read through our iso in an attempt to make up reasons to push us, and you're basically joining any old wagon as they form

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

In saying that, if Pine/Bingle/F&G flip scum then I'm happy for them to attack in that trio

oh do go on

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

i haven't experienced whiplash like the kind i got from that post in a while.

chara !!!!

hi !!!

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

hello Gamma and Bingle and whoever else i know who's on this list, it's lovely to see you.
1126 is interesting. do you townread this slot?

yes, and i do not want to wagon iks

~ skitter

[PenguinPower]

yes, and i do not want to wagon iks

Why not?

[Fun and Games]

Has your read on Penguin evolved at all since a week and half ago?

is this @me?

if it is, no.
him being boring for like a week doesn't change the fact that he was obviously town day1

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

He's scum. Let's get this wagon on IKSF rolling.

You say you want a chara flip but once chara starts racking up votes, you immediately try to start a new wagon. what's up with that?

^

[Fun and Games]

We can lynch IKSF or Penguin. Make your choices.

i'm gonna be stubborn and say no, those are awful choices, and i decline them

~ skitter

[Fun and Games]

yes, and i do not want to wagon iks

Why not?

he's been lowkey townie and the sudden push on him is p classic deadline push on a lowhanging fruit that nobody is explaining how or why the slot is scummy

i will not support it and will protest the whole way down

~ skitter

[PenguinPower]

I had him in my pool so can you explain the townie bit?

[Fun and Games]

Spoiler:

some people would infer from my behaviour that i obviously don't feel like im in danger of dying

I have to defend cmod here.
I think cmod should use the ability on himself/ his strongest townread to raise speed or on Gamma to raise strength (if I interpret that speed drop correctly).

How likely is it that Gamma-scum put a +1 knowledge on Pine n0 to set him up, and when no one else mentioned it, brought it up himself on d2?

Based on the fact that he lost speed, visited library and 2 labs were activated - not very likely.

Pine is scum because he has 4 knowledge, knowledge makes it easier to activate labs, 2 labs were activated and only scum can activate labs. Also, people don't townread him and since our friends ended day 1 quickly, we are still in late RVS. At least where it comes to non-mechanical stuff.

Scum don't have night kill. Actually, town have more night actions than scum, so night phase is somewhat as good for town as scum. Which means that there are 3-4 scum. My theory is 3 scum + traitor/ 3p or 4 scum.

Note: this game had nightstart
Gamma recieved knowledge today. Scum decreased knowledge of Nosferatu (he claimed), so if Nos is town, Gamma had to visit library. If Nos is town, he will die soon, so it is self resolving. Cmod went exploring and recieved item -> didn't activate lab. Also, he claimed ability to be able to raise 1 stat. I scum could make a better use of that ability that to claim.

@cmod

what did you do n0?

Gamma, nor cmod aren't conf town, but they are mechanically townleans and should be lynched with lowered priority.

Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.

Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.

Premise: multiple people are considering attacking someone at night.

Because there are no idle labs and Pine is one of the few people who can actually destroy already activated ones, it could be a good idea to attack Pine at night and lynch someone else. Considering someone has a scumlean who isn't Gamma/ Nos.

We almost have enough votes for Pine. We can just lynch him. Who would you attack if you were me?

My point was, that if there are two scummy people and we have people who want to attack at night, we should lynch the other person and kill Pine at night, to give him chance to destroy labs. There are no idle labs, so we aren't risking

that

much.

It is still early for me to have reads, but if I had to attack, I would attack Cakez.
2 Strength, voted George, was counterwagon to George, no solving in his ISO, wasn't attacked by maf tonight even though he had 2 strength.

he's been very quietly saying the right things at the right tiem and overall is just full of good sense

also 796 in particular was very good

~ skitter

[PenguinPower]

Thanks