Mini Theme 2164: Betrayal Mafia I (Game over!)

[Fun and Games]

Bingle you're voting noraa

link to next VC (post 1375)

[PenguinPower]

Oh....problems. We have problems.

[PenguinPower]

Bingle is voting me now btw.

[Fun and Games]

oh right
i think abr was alluding to more of a ~damage/attack multiplier~
i don't think it's exactly the same as noraa

i do think that this genre of 'multiple/more powerful' attacks is more likely to be for scum tho

[Bingle]

Everyonr except like you, gamma, and cmod

Yeah... none of those people have been super towny.

PP has been suspecting me, which is exactly what PP of either alignment does. (Source, the last 4 games I played with PP.)

Gamma's roleclaim was all sorts of sketch.

cmod's confirmed role and double item status (which he was supposed to prove I think) is the towniest part about him, but the "I WANT TO USE MY ONESHOT ROLE RIGHT NOW TO PROVE IT EXISTS!" was actually pretty scummy and the rolefishy way he went about the pigeon was pretty gross, tbh.

Nos has been by far the towniest person in the thread and he's not even in the thread.

[Fun and Games]

bingle you fighting me on this is scummy too and isn't really helping your case

[PenguinPower]

Attack x speed is an attack multiplier, no?

[Fun and Games]

maybe tbh i don't fully understand the mechanics and it's possible i'm not parsing that properly

[Fun and Games]

bingle who do you even townread then ...

[PenguinPower]

Whoever townreads him.

[Bingle]

The claims are functionally the same but with ABR withi,ding specifics.

No? ABR claimed he's a vig. Ydrasse claimed she can multiattack. Stepping back a moment from the big differences, I don't see why there wouldn't necessarily be two roles like that in the town. Maybe you could argue they're not both scum, but the issue with that is that by the time Noraa is set up to prove her role exists we may well be approaching endgame.

Further, the utility in ABR's role is that he can actually kill a player outright, which is a direct counter to both me and CMod's roles. Noraa is potentially way stronger as a proven role than a vig, because making multiple attacks when her stats are similar to the targets' doesn't particularly make it likely that she'll kill them.

The level of overlap is similar to me and Cmod, where cmod heals someone else and I have a way for others to heal me. There's not really a role disagreement there.

[Bingle]

bingle who do you even townread then ...

Nos. Vaguely I think iks is probably town, but that's not a hill I'd die on.

[PenguinPower]

I'm a vig, better than even chances to one-shot a 3-3-3 player, if I get a weapon it becomes almost certain to one-shot them unless they roll perfectly.

There is nothing alignment indicative in me describing the mechanic of my attack.

Not an outright vig...just like Noraa!slot

[PenguinPower]

You even reading Bingle?

[Fun and Games]

bingle who do you even townread then ...

Nos. Vaguely I think iks is probably town, but that's not a hill I'd die on.

i'm kinda disappointed

[PenguinPower]

I mean that happened while I was vla.

[Fun and Games]

tbf i literally read the abr thing and noraa thing and have no idea how they overlap or how they're related

[Bingle]

Attack x speed is an attack multiplier, no?

ABR's claim is that if he attacks he's more likely to kill.

Noraa's claim is that she can attack multiple times if speed would let her do so.

Are you legitimately not seeing a difference there?

[PenguinPower]

Mostly because ABR has been vague about how it works, but I’m assuming somewhat the same given the “better than evens” comment.

[PenguinPower]

Attack x speed is an attack multiplier, no?

ABR's claim is that if he attacks he's more likely to kill.

Noraa's claim is that she can attack multiple times if speed would let her do so.

Are you legitimately not seeing a difference there?

....

[Bingle]

The working assumption that ABR has avoided talking about is that he has some multiplier to his damage output.

[PenguinPower]

Which is the same thing as attacking multiple times on the same target....

[SirCakez]

pedit because gamma is kinda obviously town and bingle's case is based on a whole lotta assumptions that i'm not sure hold

I don't see this

Which part

Gamma obvtown

ok now that we have a day and a bit left, can we work on coalescing on a non-awful wagon?

pedit i would compromise on chara if necessary, but i think we should be voting johnny

~ skitter

Johnny isn't happening today pick someone else

Can we plz wagon him now ... ^
I really dont think he's this bad

I can go back to ABR looks like Penguin isn't happening
I could also go back to Ydrasse idc about the claim anymore

VOTE: ABR

[SirCakez]

claims don't even matter this game I thought this was established

[Fun and Games]

bingle can we talk about why you have literally no townreads?
this is alot more interesting to me than the mechanics thing