i meant so prs could coordinate their night actions.In post 3114, Datisi wrote:i'm like, reading along, and trying to make sense of what is happening
the response to 3112 would be: i don't think so??? i think the issue there is, you have nice roles of ascetic indecisive doc and 3-shot novice vig. they're gated, but they're still PRs of ~decent strength.
then you have vanillacop/mailman and rolewatcher neighbour, which sound cool, but are like "here's your fun toy, if you manage to get one useful result with it, consider yourself lucky"
like against 3 goons, i could maaaaybe see this setup as being scumsided, but not unpassable. with a scum weird vanilla/TA hybrid flipped, i don't think it's enough?
wdym because of night actions?
i agree that rolewatcher is pretty damn weak, but i feel like maybe you're underrating the power of combined mailman/vanilla cop? obviously BM completely botched it here, and i'm not even sure how i'd go about unlocking the full potential of the role but i think that potential is there?In post 3114, Datisi wrote: then you have vanillacop/mailman and rolewatcher neighbour, which sound cool, but are like "here's your fun toy, if you manage to get one useful result with it, consider yourself lucky"
i should probably actually make the post i am referencing here before i reference it, sorry.In post 3127, iamausername wrote:maybe bob genuinely does believe that Mena's spam posting on D1 both did and did not make a shelly execution completely inevitable.
perhaps. i remember what happened last time i towncleared someone purely for their claimed role in a schadd-reviewed setup.In post 3126, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i think both SS and schadd would be willing to defy meta a tiny bit and make the setup somewhat scumsided. neighbors are usually nai, but the neighbors in this game are both town prs and by nature fairly easily confirmable to each other and thus... maybe kind of turn into masons? which would make the setup pretty balanced. without bob!follower. hm.
ico will definitely be targeted tonight, so to be completely honest there's absolutely no reason nora should shoot in any case. i think we should lim alonzo today and go from there, but i would also be okay with an iaaun flip.
i mean, the way i'm looking at it is vanilla-cop is most useful in massclaim to maybe catch someone in a lie, while a mailman is a nice bonus that doesn't actually... *do* anything +EV for town. like if there's some 9000+IQ strategy of playing this specific role, i don't know if the game would be balanced around that, because afaik it's usually assumed that most of the playerlist won't be mechanical geniusesIn post 3127, iamausername wrote:i agree that rolewatcher is pretty damn weak, but i feel like maybe you're underrating the power of combined mailman/vanilla cop? obviously BM completely botched it here, and i'm not even sure how i'd go about unlocking the full potential of the role but i think that potential is there?
i... don't think he's saying that? like he said he would've unvoted, not Dismantled The Whole Wagon All By Himself. which is like, something i heavily Feel, since at the time i myself was waffling between shelly and teacher, and she got hammered almost out of nowhere.In post 3129, iamausername wrote:in 3070, bob also claims that he would have dismantled the shelly wagon himself after the point where Mena started hyperposting, if only Bunno and Alonzo hadn't recklessly quickhammered before he had the chance.
my only objection to your post would be that i would put a town vanilla cop at like 15-25% of an full town cop but i don't think that's actually *that* relevant right nowIn post 3134, TheGoldenParadox wrote:eyeballing it i'd call a vanilla cop as maybe 40-50% the worth of a cop, nowhere near a real pr.
i'll defer to you there because you're more experienced than i am but if this is an outright scum lie that i'm just not smart enough to see i'm going to be quite annoyedIn post 3138, Datisi wrote:my only objection to your post would be that i would put a town vanilla cop at like 15-25% of an full town cop but i don't think that's actually *that* relevant right nowIn post 3134, TheGoldenParadox wrote:eyeballing it i'd call a vanilla cop as maybe 40-50% the worth of a cop, nowhere near a real pr.
hey, my most recently run setup has been spit at as townsided while i genuinely thought it was scumsided, soIn post 3141, TheGoldenParadox wrote:i'll defer to you there because you're more experienced than i am but if this is an outright scum lie that i'm just not smart enough to see i'm going to be quite annoyedIn post 3138, Datisi wrote:my only objection to your post would be that i would put a town vanilla cop at like 15-25% of an full town cop but i don't think that's actually *that* relevant right nowIn post 3134, TheGoldenParadox wrote:eyeballing it i'd call a vanilla cop as maybe 40-50% the worth of a cop, nowhere near a real pr.
you know what, this is a guaranteed win if we make the assumption that {Ico, TGP, Noraa} are all town and Alonzo is scum.In post 3140, TheGoldenParadox wrote:if you're town, attacking me is not the way to go when i'm pseudoconfirmed.
let's go with alonzo today, noraa can holster tonight while bob tracks one of {user/dats}
you ninja'ed me lmao