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Post Post #3325 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:38 am

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In post 3302, Cabd wrote:
In post 3301, petapan wrote:gamma vote >> bell vote for me atp but i will not shut up about killing bulge while i am still allowed to post
In most death order...

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Why is DS at the bottom for you???
Do you not see how DS was scummily angling to try and set the stage the push you by trying to discredit the very reason you are conftown?
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Post Post #3326 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:39 am

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In post 3321, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3276, fferyllt wrote:I was trying to put words around the implications of DS's scumread of Cabd, to show him how absurd it sounded.

DS adopted the absurdities wholeheartedly, which was bizarre enough.

And here, you're scumreading him for buying into the implications, rather than sticking with the initial raw take.

Something's wrong here.
Hell yeah something's wrong, DS demonstrated he's not trying to argue in good faith, he's just interested in the points that best suit his agenda. I have solid evidence that what DS did is a scum move, that I gathered around the last time I used this tell, which was actually a couple years ago I believe.
How am I not arguing in good faith? It's pretty clear that something is very fucky around here. No set-up makes over half of their town mod-confirmed, and I really don't understand how nobody sees that.
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Post Post #3327 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:42 am

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In post 3325, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3302, Cabd wrote:
In post 3301, petapan wrote:gamma vote >> bell vote for me atp but i will not shut up about killing bulge while i am still allowed to post
In most death order...

{Bulge}
gap
{gamma, bell}
gap
{???}
HUUUGE GAP
{DS}
?
Why is DS at the bottom for you???
Do you not see how DS was scummily angling to try and set the stage the push you by trying to discredit the very reason you are conftown?
I was summarizing petapan's reads back to him for clarification.

These aren't my opinions.
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Post Post #3328 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:45 am

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In post 3325, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3302, Cabd wrote:
In post 3301, petapan wrote:gamma vote >> bell vote for me atp but i will not shut up about killing bulge while i am still allowed to post
In most death order...

{Bulge}
gap
{gamma, bell}
gap
{???}
HUUUGE GAP
{DS}
?
Why is DS at the bottom for you???
Do you not see how DS was scummily angling to try and set the stage the push you by trying to discredit the very reason you are conftown?
I think he’s trying to see where peta’s head is at.

Pedit: derp

@Gamma, why are you hard defending me?
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Post Post #3329 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:48 am

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hey gamma if you're still townreading me vote the goddamn bulge
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Post Post #3330 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:49 am

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Okay my bad, then. Just saw some blanks filled in I wasn't expecting.

@Bell you remind me of myself, specifically some of the things I do as town that land me in the most hot water. So I see why people read you as scum like they do and I understand it is my duty to try and convince them they're wrong. Because to accept their push is to say that my own past behaviors I'm seeing in you are scum ones, which I know to be factually incorrect, since I know what I've flipped when I've done those things.
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Post Post #3331 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 3329, petapan wrote:hey gamma if you're still townreading me vote the goddamn bulge
VOTE: The Bulge
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Post Post #3332 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:52 am

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In post 3314, The Bulge wrote:can you talk to me again about why didn't care about bell's lack of a read on you, despite the fact that he interacted with you by far more than anyone else day 1?
It seemed like he forgot to put me in his readlist not that he didn't have a read. I typically don't engage with people about their reads on me unless it's a weirdly strong scumread. Bell seems to lightly scumread me, so I don't really care to engage there.
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Post Post #3333 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:54 am

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DS vote is extremely not happening
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Post Post #3334 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:01 am

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I don't really remember Bell engaging with me particularly more than anyone else D1. I thought he was over at the 2012-2013 people with all of them hard scumreading him.
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Post Post #3335 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:02 am

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In post 3319, The Bulge wrote:I will concede that peta's more recent posts do seem more genuine if a little misguided. happy to have a fan :mrgreen:

pedit - sry to disappoint. I admit the wording could have been a little less leading.
what about it seems "genuine" to you, why can't i be bad faith pushing you as scum
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Post Post #3336 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 3308, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3271, SirCakez wrote:
In post 3249, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 3218, SirCakez wrote:if people are wondering why I'm suddenly so aggressive on Bell it's because I find his posting over the last few pages obscenely scummy
his attitude seems so fake and his acknowledgement of basically making up reads also reeks
How has he “acknowledged making up reads”? And even if he did, I don’t think how he did it was scummy.
I meant how he was accused of using OMGUS to find scum reads and just went "yeah"
That makes a little more sense but I still don't really find it scummy.
how is it not?
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In post 3272, SirCakez wrote:I can go through Bulge's big attack post on me this page but honestly it seems kind of pointless because I don't think he's gonna change his mind on this particular interaction.
lol cakez where's your spine
im busy dude I don't have time to respond to big-ass posts where nobody cares what I'd say anyways
and also this is not the kind of post to make more inclined to respond
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Post Post #3337 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:04 am

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In post 3326, DiamondSentinel wrote:No set-up makes over half of their town mod-confirmed, and I really don't understand how nobody sees that.
Well why can't we wait for nightkills to deal with all of this? I do think this might be an issue, but not an issue that needs to be resolved today.
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Post Post #3338 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:08 am

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In post 3266, The Bulge wrote:petapan's motives are a mystery to me, but his push on me doesn't feel any kind of genuine. very much need to iso.
I was referring to what I said earlier. I didn't see anything before aside from you following your own trajectory on what you hoped would be an easy push. now I'm seeing evidence that you do believe I am scum and more importantly that you think others should be seeing it as well. compared to before where I had no evidence. it could very well still be a bad-faith scum push but I'm more inclined towards cakez and ds at this point and I don't think the whole scumteam is breathing down my neck rn
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Post Post #3339 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:10 am

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Gamma - can you please explain that scumtell a little more?
I am in the top 90% of scumhunters onsite!
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Post Post #3340 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:11 am

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In post 3334, midwaybear wrote:I don't really remember Bell engaging with me particularly more than anyone else D1. I thought he was over at the 2012-2013 people with all of them hard scumreading him.
Bell mingled with the usual suspects as is expected, but most of his discussion and theorizing d1 was directed at you iirc
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Post Post #3341 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:12 am

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midway when you say you "do not townread Gamma anymore" is that a scumread or an unsure read
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Post Post #3342 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:13 am

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In post 3336, SirCakez wrote:nobody cares what I'd say anyways
what gives you that impression? before you said you wouldn't be able to change
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Post Post #3343 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:13 am

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Neutral
I could vote him or Bulge today.
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Post Post #3344 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:15 am

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In post 3339, Tammy wrote:Gamma - can you please explain that scumtell a little more?
If someone is dropping their own points to push the points someone else brought up instead, they essentially are saying through their actions, "I don't genuinely believe what I'm saying, I just want to push whatever gets everyone to think I'm right". Supplementing one's argument with points brought on by another player is okay, opting to push someone else's points in place of your own is not.
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Post Post #3345 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:16 am

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In post 3343, midwaybear wrote:Neutral
I could vote him or Bulge today.
well i think you know what i want you to do
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Post Post #3346 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 3343, midwaybear wrote:Neutral
I could vote him or Bulge today.
do you have any actual scumreads? You say I'm only neutral but still list me as one of your most preferred votes, so if your scumpool isn't super shallow (this is just an extension of the metaphor, not me assailing your reads), why are you preferring to vote a neutral read over/alongside an actual scumread?
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Post Post #3347 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:19 am

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In post 3342, The Bulge wrote:
In post 3336, SirCakez wrote:nobody cares what I'd say anyways
what gives you that impression? before you said you wouldn't be able to change
my
mind by responding, no mention of the onlookers.
are you seeing anyone else ask me to respond to your post?
the only person who even noticed was DS who said I was justified not responding lol
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Post Post #3348 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:19 am

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I have no scumreads.
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Post Post #3349 (ISO) » Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:20 am

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Are you bothered by that fact?
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