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[Flavor Leaf]

If Jackson flips Traitor, this game is over.

[Flavor Leaf]

Sup fam, it's ya uboi JacksonVirgo ready to spice this game up with an epic policy vote.

VOTE: shellyc

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

sounds fake and scummy considering whos in that set of 3

:c

Fine, it's not true

Lowkey just wanted to see how shelly reacted, but it's goners now

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

I'm informed that there's scum

I'm informed

I was fake-claiming to be an Informed [redacted] to gauge reactions. Also getting at shelly by saying fake-claim = bad.

I do it all the time on my home-site so much that my claim is never actually believed ever anymore lmfaoooo

Sup fam, it's ya uboi JacksonVirgo ready to spice this game up with an epic policy vote.

VOTE: shellyc

policy vote = bad
fakeclaim = bad

andres/jackson/koba gg

Mixture of all this make me feel Jackson, Shelly, Koba, possibly Jackson as traitor.

I think there's more than enough to not call it a tinfoil. I am going down a bad tunnel, though, I'm gonna take a break.

[Flavor Leaf]

oh no, Gamma is Shelly slot. That makes it worse because Gamma was protecting DkKoba. haha

[Infinity 324]

Mixture of all this make me feel Jackson, Shelly, Koba, possibly Jackson as traitor.

I think there's more than enough to not call it a tinfoil. I am going down a bad tunnel, though, I'm gonna take a break.

If you're trying to call the scumteam on d1, it's always a tinfoil.

[DkKoba]

@Koba can you explain your read progression on me? Have you townread/nullread me at all this game?

im about to go to sleep but basically nullscum>town>flavor subs in>scum iirc

[DkKoba]

If Jackson flips Scum btw, then Koba is probably also Scum. I feel quite unsure about Koba, and maybe that’s also influenced about the weird way they went about voting me (I feel like Town!Koba would have recognized me as Town already). They are making a lot of confident pronouncements about people’s alignments, have repeatedly stated they would return to things never to actually go through with it... I’m finding it somewhat underwhelming.

?? this isnt even true have u even read the game

[Infinity 324]

@Koba can you explain your read progression on me? Have you townread/nullread me at all this game?

im about to go to sleep but basically nullscum>town>flavor subs in>scum iirc

Explain the part where you started SRing me when you get up.

[Flavor Leaf]

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

sounds fake and scummy considering whos in that set of 3

Inclined to think Dk might have a point here even after it was walked back
It read like trying to push the game towards looking as those players super-early

I'm informed that there's scum within Shelly, DKKoba and Infinity. Probably should out that rn

I'm informed that there's scum

I'm informed

When's the last time you checked the normal role list, pal? Informed Townie/Informed Mafia is a thing now.

Don't like Gamma's response now to DGB's post with the idea of a Shelly, DkK, Jackson possibility.

[Flavor Leaf]

Mixture of all this make me feel Jackson, Shelly, Koba, possibly Jackson as traitor.

I think there's more than enough to not call it a tinfoil. I am going down a bad tunnel, though, I'm gonna take a break.

If you're trying to call the scumteam on d1, it's always a tinfoil.

I disagree, while I am grouping, I'm not trying to call scumteam on D1, I'm looking into traitor possibility, which in that case wouldn't count as a calling the scum team day 1 moreso than catching scum out on Day 1 because of a traitor crumb

[Infinity 324]

I disagree, while I am grouping, I'm not trying to call scumteam on D1, I'm looking into traitor possibility, which in that case wouldn't count as a calling the scum team day 1 moreso than catching scum out on Day 1 because of a traitor crumb

If you're looking for traitor crumbs, it's even more tinfoil lol

Idk if I've ever played in a normal with a traitor

[Gamma Emerald]

FL, imo it looks like you're confbiasing and/or cherrypicking

[Gamma Emerald]

The rule for a shellyc read should be something like - if they’re broadly suspected, Town. If broadly TR, Scum.

yeah I think this is accurate based on my own experience. Multiple others probably should as well.

Alright I’m just going to put this out there. @Koba I’m not getting Townyvibes from you. I really didn’t like your attempt at a derp clear with the Scum not having Day Talk. In fact, anybody who made a direct reference to that should be under some suspicion (I don’t really have a read on VPB but I also noticed a reference there from him). Until it was highlighted, I didn’t even check whether this was the case. Yes, I initially assumed that Scum could speak privately during the day. But the Scum are far more likely to have wanted to communicate and strategize early, only to realize that they couldn’t (as included in the rules). So anybody who realized this probably felt it would be something they could use to clear themselves by making a point out of it. Paranoid? Perhaps. But something to think about.

Very confused as to why you're assuming this is one alignment or the other. Most people would assume daytalk (as you did), so that doesn't seem scummy to me.

Scum could try to town point off it, which is why it is NAI

I think VPB's post was mildly towny but that's not for the slip at all, but for the fact it drips town mindset of that curiosity, which seems legit
Dk meanwhile didn't really impact my read with their slip.

Im not sure how you even see it as alignment indicative in the first place. Yeah sorry i like to say shit like that to obscure my alignment when I do roll scum sorry its an annoying ego gimmick to not read setup mech posts.
Misclicked submit.

I think I dislike you on a personal level now. I may derp pretty hard at times but I try to keep myself semi-filled in on how my games I'm playing work. Willful ignorance is something I refuse to tolerate.

Hot how?

You basically said you were annoyed people were posting too much and offered nothing of substance yourself. Not sure why you're acting angry about people posting.

Plus, there ARE things to comment on. Shelly for instance

I was just saying that trying to catch up 5 pages at thr weekend when I have little access is a lot for me. And I generally think 99% of day 1 is less than useful.

I cannot be impartial about shelly due to my last game.

5 pages in a day isn't that bad, try 20 pages in half that time
Also this feels like my mindset when I'm scum facing a long and arduous catch up process

Sesq confirned and didnt post? Lmfao

Is it slimy to speculate on this? Never confirming is one thing but confirming and not posting definitely feels like a solid indicator of RWSTFO while not exactly being angleshooting since you're not trying to hazard a guess into extremely nebulous motives like you would have to for trying to read replaces.

[Andresvmb]

If Jackson flips Scum btw, then Koba is probably also Scum. I feel quite unsure about Koba, and maybe that’s also influenced about the weird way they went about voting me (I feel like Town!Koba would have recognized me as Town already). They are making a lot of confident pronouncements about people’s alignments, have repeatedly stated they would return to things never to actually go through with it... I’m finding it somewhat underwhelming.

?? this isnt even true have u even read the game

You’re right in part actually, in that you did end up posting a reads list. I had missed that. You never really ISO’ed VPB when you claimed you would though. And I just don’t know, I think you’re all over the place but that isn’t necessarily Scummy either. And your vote on me just didn’t feel right.

[Andresvmb]

Anyway, I don’t want to be seen to be piling on. I am very unsure about Koba is all. I think it’ll help to see what happens moving forward.

[Infinity 324]

The rule for a shellyc read should be something like - if they’re broadly suspected, Town. If broadly TR, Scum.

yeah I think this is accurate based on my own experience. Multiple others probably should as well.

Lol I should vote you then

[Andresvmb]

@Gamma did you forget that you replaced into shellyc’s slot?

[Gamma Emerald]

Pretty sure consensus on shelly never really deviated from SRing her?
I did not forget. You saw me calling shelly past!me, no?

[Infinity 324]

Pretty sure consensus on shelly never really deviated from SRing her?

Pretty sure your slot is more townread than scumread, though we have a bunch of inactive players

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm only through like page 10 for actually reading the game, though I also skimmed shelly's posts in ISO

[Infinity 324]

I do think it's towny to point that out, since it means you were confident enough that the shelly SRs would keep up.

[Zdenek]

Picking up my prod. I will be here today.

[Flavor Leaf]

We had a traitor meta a couple years ago, and I’m still scarred.

[Flavor Leaf]

Is that Fantastic Mr Fox? Great movie.

[Infinity 324]

We had a traitor meta a couple years ago, and I’m still scarred.

Understandable, I guess I was on hiatus at the time.

[Flavor Leaf]

Miller Meta > Traitor Meta. I like milllers, though.