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[Battle Mage]

I see we are still a couple heads down so far

where's Mini and the Bailey?

Im here just didnt realise the game started lol.
I feel like you are town and from my understanding you're fairly new to this?

I guess she thought this was staarling. eh, maybe not staarling-mini then...

[Gypyx]

The thing is, it's probably better to get me out of the way D1, imo, why not staarling though BM, you act kinda convinced of her scuminess recently

[Battle Mage]

i read the ISOs of both, twice over. Mini is much worse.

[Battle Mage]

FFS!! this is so dumb, let's just flip Mini! we're sat here just twiddling our thumbs. especially those who actually think Gypyx might be town but are doing nothing to provide an alternative.

[Battle Mage]

i do think staarling has flown well under people's radars, pardon the pun

[Gypyx]

why so sure on Ico anyway?

Gut
Interactions with datisi
Push on shelly

Gtg

the fact he pushed shelly, or the way he pushed shelly? and what about the interactions with datisi? gimme some detail

Basically, make a quick ctrl+F "dat" in ico's iso, you'll notice he's never the one starting the contact with him, apart from that RVS townbin that he doesn't really reconsider through the game from what i've read (i get the lack of reconsideration but still)

And ico's push on shelly is a lot of poiting out bad reads and not really about shelly being scum, which like, town will never make a perfect game with all thier reads on point but yet ico will act like being wrong is being scum

Anyways, i insist that i'm the better exe here, for gamestate sakes, like, should i self-hammer?

[Battle Mage]

dude, if you're town, for daddy's sake vote for mini and let's drive that through.

otherwise i'll hammer you myself in frustration.

[Datisi]

On Gypyx, I liked the VT claim there, I think I'd have done similar as town in the past. He didn't need to do it, and it was obviously going to get him run up. I do appreciate the point about not running up another PR, but eh...

i can see a world where town does that, sure. but i can also easily see a world where scum is bluffing like that as well. maybe i'm biased because of reasons. maybe i just really hate that ico read and it's clouding my judgment. who knows.

also, there's a huge issue with running mini up that you're not considering:

if she's scum, she's gonna claim a PR

. so either she claims VT and we kill a VT (and we're worse off than now), or she's gonna claim PR and we're left with either risking pushing through a PR execution (which is probably gonna make people pause), scrambling back onto the VT claim, running up a comical third option, all with really not a lot of time left, giving scum more info to aim night actions *and* risking a no-exe. or maybe hammering her without a claim.

like, i get the idea. i really do. but i don't think it's a good one.

[Battle Mage]

On Gypyx, I liked the VT claim there, I think I'd have done similar as town in the past. He didn't need to do it, and it was obviously going to get him run up. I do appreciate the point about not running up another PR, but eh...

i can see a world where town does that, sure. but i can also easily see a world where scum is bluffing like that as well. maybe i'm biased because of reasons. maybe i just really hate that ico read and it's clouding my judgment. who knows.

also, there's a huge issue with running mini up that you're not considering:

if she's scum, she's gonna claim a PR

. so either she claims VT and we kill a VT (and we're worse off than now), or she's gonna claim PR and we're left with either risking pushing through a PR execution (which is probably gonna make people pause), scrambling back onto the VT claim, running up a comical third option, all with really not a lot of time left, giving scum more info to aim night actions *and* risking a no-exe. or maybe hammering her without a claim.

like, i get the idea. i really do. but i don't think it's a good one.

bleh. i dont get why he doesnt try and save himself. i hate this ethos of flipping a claimed VT because they didnt claim a PR when we know scum are much more likely to claim a PR. *sulks*

[Gypyx]

Idk man, i'm not seeing how i'm even saving myself there, without screwing the town even more

[Battle Mage]

you literally may as well self vote then

[Battle Mage]

if there is actually anyone willing to put Gypyx at -1, I will be online to drop a hammer.

[Battle Mage]

it's Mini, I'm convinced it's Mini.

[Battle Mage]

Sup BM :3

Pooks, who is Mini's partner? is it Gypyx and that's why Gypyx gave up (because she ain't around)?

[MiniMegabyte]

I’m off to hospital so I will get on when I can

[shellyc]

what the fuck?

why have we not hammered yet

[shellyc]

I'm going to go for a soul-read though and VOTE: Staarling. The white-knighting of Gypyx screams informed-scum distancing from an inevitable townflip, and the bold above feels like a slip to get the alignment the wrong way around.

if staarling is scum i would say they've played a really perfect game
sure some of that iso feels lamisty but lamist is more a personality tell nowadays, also I've been confident in TRs before as town so ehh?
staarling has put in a huge amount of effort and likes playing town

[shellyc]

VOTE: Battle Mage

seems to me that he changed his mind on me as soon as he saw i had some suspicion on him

BM never TRd you at first, and why do you think re-evaluation is scummy?

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: gypyx

[shellyc]

thats hammer

gypyx, were you town?

[Gypyx]

Yep

[Gypyx]

Anything you want from me shelly?

[Ydrasse]

sorry if you're town i just didn't want a no elim :/

[shellyc]

yknow i had a dream yesterday it was iv/mini

[shellyc]

gypyx can you do a final poe and quick, before the mod comes