Newbie 2038: Elements [Game Over]

[Umlaut]

Vote Count 1.8

Fluorine, ₉F

— reactive nonmetal, standard atomic weight 18.998, group 17, period 2, p-block

cylstar

(3): Mizzytastic, muh316, Egix96

muh316

(2): AGamblingPig, c4e5g3d5

72offsuit

(2): safebet222, JDye

Mizzytastic

(1): 72offsuit

AGamblingPig

(1): cylstar

With 9 alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-11-06 06:30:00)

[safebet222]

Also, do you think the game's general low activity so far is bad for town? If so, what should we do about it?

@c4

Any thoughts?

In fact, anyone care to share their thoughts?

[c4e5g3d5]

I mean... when town is inactive, the remedy is usually... activity...

(Hypocrisy oof)

[safebet222]

Sure... Any ideas on making that happen?

[c4e5g3d5]

Don't know what to tell you, I'm not a psych major.

[Mizzytastic]

We've not really meshed as a group of players. It happens some times and it is generally bad for town. I don't know how to fix it though. The d1n1 flips can sometimes help because it builds narratives. But you can't rely on it cos scum can kill to try and maintain town apathy.

I've backed off a bit between real life stuff and cos my activity level felt like it was smothering instead of encouraging in this group but I plan to be around and catching up for an hour or two later on. I need to solidify on who I want to consider for elim instead of voting cyl cos I wanted to sort.

[AGamblingPig]

Prod dodging post. I likely won't be able to catch up on what's happening today, but I'm working from home tomorrow so I'll have plenty of time to do so then. I'll give some thoughts then.

[Mizzytastic]

Sorry, I tried to catch up but my brain is jelly right now. I did get some thoughts on cyl though.

Specifically in reference to cyl, I'm trying to work out how I feel about her just not seeming to care about the wagon on her. I was hoping that pressure would help resolve the slot but she's just kept acting the same way. My hopes were that if she was town the pressure might poke her into revealing her alignment but she just seems unfazed and I'm trying to work out how that fits in with the rest of what we've seen of her.

Cyl, you've not really responded to any of the pressure on you, is there a reason why?


I also kinda like her vote on AGamblingPig and dunno if it comes from scum in that position. It's a heck of a time to start a vanity wagon, under pressure and with other viable wagons you won't get stick for joining - it looks to me like someone voting who they think is most likely to be scum without wider strategic considerations. I've also been starting to feel that of all the lurkers Pig looks the most like someone who could be doing it strategically, I remember liking the thought in one of his posts but viewed as a whole it's underwhelming without ever being egregiously so. I guess we'll see with his reads list.

[Umlaut]

cylstar was prodded.

[JDye]

@Mizzy, little by confused by what you said about Cyl's Pig vote. You seem to think she did it recently and after people started voting her but she voted 150 posts ago and no one was voting her at that time.

So everything you said about her looking town beecaue you don't think scum makes that move under pressure, doesn't apply.

[Mizzytastic]

You are right, it doesn't apply. As I said, brain jelly. Not helped by the fact I can't sleep

[Mizzytastic]

I think I conflated it with her reads list - I could've sworn she unvoted then revoted recently. Which actually makes it look scummier then, like she's making the list fit her vote, even though she called the vote rvs. Then she goes and says she doesn't know why she put pig there but doesn't actually change anything.

[cylstar]

Oof, I forgot about this game for a while. I've got a class soon but I'm not too sure what Mizzy means. I will be catching up soon.

[Mizzytastic]

I thought you placed your vote at a different time then you did and changed my read based on that when corrected

[72offsuit]

Here.

[72offsuit]

19 posts in 1 day.
Town apathy.
Easy scum win.

[72offsuit]

I don't have any defense for my posting so far other than I haven't played text mafia in close to a decade and am super rusty when it comes to developing reads. Your thorough analysis from you first post does make me feel better about removing my vote from Bipolar. My read on them was admittedly weak.

Based on how I'd been following the thread my next target was 72, but having read him in isolation I'm now convinced my sketch read on him was just gas.

SO now I'm going toVOTE: Muh316. He said last night that he was going to start participating more but since then has 4 posts none of which have any real game content besides refusing, repeatedly to give a read on hunterr when asked by 72. His posts read more like prod dodging, which could be scummy to avoid attention

This post is scummy +++


1. The write-off of his gut-scum-vibe on me as being "just gas" is horrible. It doesnt fit a town mindset to build pressure. The "just gas" deflates pressure on a player (myself).
I think !townPig would be much more likely to give more time to let his gutread play out over several more pages/posts, rather than give the read away so early.

2. The vote on muh feels like scum opportunistically voting for low hanging fruit. I'd say muh is just the punching bag low-hanging fruit town jester.
The transition of Pig from gut-scum-reading me to dismissing that and then voting for muh fits !scumPig agenda.

[72offsuit]

Looking at the player list, the people who haven't had a significant positive impression on me at any point are muh, Egix and AGamblingPig.

I wouldn't be surprised if 2 of them are scum.

Agree with Mizzy that this is lazy low effort scum sort of post. I think its a scumslip.
I made the SAME SCUMSLIP in Newbie 1986.

viewtopic.php?p=11612403#p11612403

See Natsu's post 273.

He basically catches me, but doesnt really link it as the post being lazy-scum-me




Here it is for those who cbf going to that game: (I'm scum replacing in for scumNavneet. TSE and NAtsu are both town)

Post 138 by TSE (who i fake scumread)
I think I’m good with lynching within Navneet/Volxen/GB.


In post 234, 72offsuit wrote:
p138: don't feel much townie motivation coming from this post. Just a random lynch pool.
If TSE flips scum, I would hazard a guess that 1 of these 3 is scum with him.


Natsu then says:
The three players in that post are GB, Volxen, and Navneet (which is you). TSE is pushing Volxen, and I don't see you being scum with TSE (I don't see you being scum whatsoever). So are you saying GB is scum if TSE flips scum?

[72offsuit]

VOTE: GamblingPig

[72offsuit]

Sure... Any ideas on making that happen?

Lynch All Lurkers.

[72offsuit]

Or better yet, join me in voting for GamblingPig

[72offsuit]

Wow deadline of 1 day 19 hours

[72offsuit]

I mean... when town is inactive, the remedy is usually... activity...

(Hypocrisy oof)

Its a bit of a perpetual vicious cycle

Low activity = little to respond to / less meat to analayse = less posting cos there is no content = low activity

[72offsuit]

But yes, I do think that "cus RVS lol" is a cop-out from c4 and my votes stays on him.

Re Hunter:

Didnt like this post - any re-affirmation of vote is scummy. Why the need to re-draw attention to who you are voting? Town doesnt need to holler out and say look at me.
Town needs to present a solid logical case as to why someone is scum and to convince their fellow townies of their case.

[72offsuit]

Mizzy vs 72 in posts 61-69 feels passive-aggressive from both sides, more from Mizzy especially in post 69.

This feels to me like scum trying to fuel a TvT clash