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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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So are you lying or are you not actually a doctor.Mafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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Iconeum Survivor
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its a theme so not bound by normal regulationsIn post 1824, NoPowerOverMe wrote:wiki wrote:The standard (and only Normal) version of a Doctor cannot target themselfRawr!
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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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Iconeum Survivor
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i can buy the doc claim
i can buy you targeting Murdercat
i can even buy you can self-target
but all of this un-gated? As 'proven' by your claim of having targeted MC twice in a row?
hmmmmmRawr!
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how fucking strong is an un-gated doc that's allowed self protection?
not to mention how game-throwing it is to not self-target each and every nightRawr!
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NoPowerOverMe Mafia Scum
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Which card number are youMafia Record: Town 4-3 Mafia 0-1 Third Party 1-0 Total 5-4
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Iconeum Survivor
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Like I said, because this isn't strictly a norma game, self targeting might be a thing but it's gonna be accompanied by a restriction because of the otherwise sheer overpowerdness of itIn Theme games, the interaction between a Mafia Doctor and a Gunsmith may be different, and is typically driven by the game's flavour. Similarly, the exact list of types of kill that a Doctor can stop will often be flavour-driven in these games; an unusual type of kill might or might not be considered eligible for Doctor protection. For types of kill for which a Doctor is insufficient, sometimes specialised Doctor variants are introduced to stop them, e.g. a Firefighter or Poison Doctor.
There are numerous minor (but nonstandard) variations of the Doctor, e.g. some Doctors can self-target, some can stop more than one kill in the same Night, and some variant Doctors will inform the Doctor and/or their target if a protection stops a kill. These variations are not Normal, and should typically be mentioned in the player's Role PM so that they do not come to false conclusions about how their role works.
It is common for Doctors (especially those which can self-target) to have a targeting restriction, to prevent them saving the same player (especially the same power role) repeatedly. Nowadays, these restrictions often expressed in the form of a role modifier; modifiers that can break up Doctor combos include Non-Consecutive Night, Indecisive, Roaming, and Simple. In the past, Percentage was also sometimes used for this purpose (creating a role known as the Faith Healer), but roles with random aspects are normally frowned upon nowadays.Rawr!
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mhmm.In post 1832, Iconeum wrote:the doc claim has to be bullshitting
I didn't think self protecting docs have been a thing for a long while. Unless they've come back into the meta it's very odd.-
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it's not about docs being able to self-protect, because as evidence shows it's entirely possible
the problem is that the doc didn't claim a modifier, and went as far as saying they defacto have no modifier by claiming consecutive night actions on the same playerRawr!
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iamausername Mafia Scum
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so... we can all just ask the mod if a doctor would be able to self-protect, no?In post 1838, Primate wrote:This is an open setup.Elapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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again, i don't think the issue is that the doc can self protect
the issue is that i refuse to believe a mod would throw in a doc that is able to self-protect without restrictionsRawr!
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and as my wiki quote just proved: the acceptable standard of including a self-healing doc would be to implement some kind of restriction/modifierIn post 1838, Primate wrote:This is an open setup. The mod isn't going to randomly throw in an every other night doc to keep us on our toes. The only real justification of a self protecting doc is that it's enough of a standard way of doing things that the mod thinks it's an acceptable "standard" pick.
which apparently there isn'tRawr!
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this setup is very much not beholden to any concept of 'balance' thoughIn post 1840, Iconeum wrote:again, i don't think the issue is that the doc can self protect
the issue is that i refuse to believe a mod would throw in a doc that is able to self-protect without restrictionsElapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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anyway, i have PMd the mod to ask if a hypothetical doctor would be able to self-protect, and since this is an open setup, i see no reason why this wouldn't be answered.
i expect that if Echo was scum he would have done the same before claiming to be a doc that could self protect, but i guess maybe he thought that was standard until people started questioning itElapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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is a bulletproof townie really that strong thoughIn post 1830, Iconeum wrote:how fucking strong is an un-gated doc that's allowed self protection?
not to mention how game-throwing it is to not self-target each and every night
i mean, it's not like he's vengeful tooElapsam semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere-
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i expect that a doc that can self-heal would be informed in their role pm (because it not being normal), and apparently they had to check with the mod to know this so??In post 1843, iamausername wrote:anyway, i have PMd the mod to ask if a hypothetical doctor would be able to self-protect, and since this is an open setup, i see no reason why this wouldn't be answered.
i expect that if Echo was scum he would have done the same before claiming to be a doc that could self protect, but i guess maybe he thought that was standard until people started questioning itRawr!
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In post 1844, iamausername wrote:
is a bulletproof townie really that strong thoughIn post 1830, Iconeum wrote:how fucking strong is an un-gated doc that's allowed self protection?
not to mention how game-throwing it is to not self-target each and every night
i mean, it's not like he's vengeful tooRawr!
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EchoVision Mafia Scum
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idk what ungated meansIn post 1829, Iconeum wrote:i can buy the doc claim
i can buy you targeting Murdercat
i can even buy you can self-target
but all of this un-gated? As 'proven' by your claim of having targeted MC twice in a row?
hmmmmmUnaBombaH: I think Im happy you turned up to be the scum, and that you won, because I will use this game as a guideline for whenever I finally land my first scumrole.
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