Mini Normal 2170: Stuff I’m Listening To [Game Over]

[The Bulge]

I also have a clear on Kasumeat so statistically today should be easy

I have no further results unless somebody has a failed vigshot

[The Bulge]

pooky's scumgame is sowing doubt and confusion.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

bulge what did I say about what you did yesterday?

[The Bulge]

?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I said it made no sense for the scum to nightkill kasu - so I did not expect your claim to be true. I expected you to have no-killed to set up the prot claim.

Can you explain how protecting Kasu again makes any sense for addressing this theory of mine?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If I die tonight then Bulge is most likely lying about his claim. The only possibility he's not is if there's a strongman, which, I hate to try and outguess the mod, but I doubt in this setup. He should absolutely target me.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It really is not indisputable fact. I can think of multiple reasons scum would no-kill, such as wanting to gambit a protective claim during MeLo to try and secure the win today, or not seeing good targets for a kill because said kills might implicate one of the team

I am, however, not seeing any reason to target Kasu.

This is why you killed outworld - you can't afford the high-influence IC slot not believing your fake-claim.

There is literally 0 incentive for a Town-JK to not protect the Town-IC. Hence we do not have a Town-JK

[The Bulge]

I said it made no sense for the scum to nightkill kasu - so I did not expect your claim to be true. I expected you to have no-killed to set up the prot claim.

Can you explain how protecting Kasu again makes any sense for addressing this theory of mine?

I thought your theory was that scum no-killed yesterday? how could I have done that two nights in a row with a no-elim in between without ending the game in a stalemate?

if you and outworld and everyone else are saying the protective has to be 100% on the ic.....where do you think scum is going to consider not shooting? obviously they went a layer deeper in their wifom than I did.

[The Bulge]

It really is not indisputable fact. I can think of multiple reasons scum would no-kill, such as wanting to gambit a protective claim during MeLo to try and secure the win today, or not seeing good targets for a kill because said kills might implicate one of the team

I am, however, not seeing any reason to target Kasu.

This is why you killed outworld - you can't afford the high-influence IC slot not believing your fake-claim.

There is literally 0 incentive for a Town-JK to not protect the Town-IC. Hence we do not have a Town-JK

how are you still outright ignoring the fact that as town, I absolutely have even more incentive to not have a conftown hanging around who doesn't trust me and is willing to carelessly vote me in mylo/lylo situations?

[The Bulge]

again, not that that factored into my decision of not protecting outworld. it was 100% an attempt to outguess the nightkill.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok so why would the scum kill outworld if he was going to "carelessly vote you in lylo" as you put it.

[The Bulge]

but if outworld were still alive the game might have already been over and you know that. enough with the bad faith push, I'm tired.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

it was 100% an attempt to outguess the nightkill.

a real town jailkeeper doesn't have any incentive to outguess the nightkill

[The Bulge]

ok so why would the scum kill outworld if he was going to "carelessly vote you in lylo" as you put it.

because the scumteam has a different pov of the game than i do? idk. or like I already posited, maybe they figured there was a good chance I would target kasu again. I do have a track record this game of uh ignoring the ic claim

[The Bulge]

it was 100% an attempt to outguess the nightkill.

a real town jailkeeper doesn't have any incentive to outguess the nightkill

you can keep saying that but other player are [hopefully] actually reading my posts and know exactly what my incentive was.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what was the incentive bulge?

[The Bulge]

read my posts.

[The Bulge]

seems like that would be a pretty essential part of your job since your team has seen fit to assign you the sole task of "pissing off bulge every time he's in the thread" ever since the massclaim.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Let's say we're in a magical universe where you are actually a JK and for some unfathomable reason decided to play chicken with the bad guys and not protect our IC.

You send in the protect on Kasu

the Mafia for some inexplicable reason decide to kill Kasu of all people yet again.

We all wake up tomm 8 alive.

Tell me what you gained in this high stakes gamble.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

seems like that would be a pretty essential part of your job since your team has seen fit to assign you the sole task of "pissing off bulge every time he's in the thread" ever since the massclaim.

I'm town dude.

[The Bulge]

Let's say we're in a magical universe where you are actually a JK and for some unfathomable reason decided to play chicken with the bad guys and not protect our IC.

You send in the protect on Kasu

the Mafia for some inexplicable reason decide to kill Kasu of all people yet again.

We all wake up tomm 8 alive.

Tell me what you gained in this high stakes gamble.

pretty fucking close to hard proof that my claim and my clear are legit? am I wrong about 3 no-deaths in a row ending a game in stalemate? is that not still a thing? if it is then it would be hard proof that at least one of my kasu-results is legit. if not it's still massively unlikely scum would ever give up 2 kills in a row for an incredibly shaky gambit when there is a full team.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how is it hard proof?

Outworld suspects you of no-killing to set up a prot gambit, why wouldn't you nokill again? it's not like there's town investigative roles you have to worry about.

Game state doesnt change you can just punt it back.

[The Bulge]

also I still don't know 100% for sure that scum

didn't

no kill n3. maybe kasu isn't clear after all. I do find that highly unlikely, at least enough that I am comfortable considering kasu 100% clear fmpov at least until we deal with the more openwolves in you and shea, or I get more info from night actions somehow. anyway if I got that double protect on kasu it would at the very least 1000000% clear him to me even if nobody else in the whole game believed me.

[The Bulge]

how is it hard proof?

Outworld suspects you of no-killing to set up a prot gambit, why wouldn't you nokill again? it's not like there's town investigative roles you have to worry about.

Game state doesnt change you can just punt it back.

when scum plays like that, good mods call games early. it's INSANE to me if anyone is reading your posts and thinking you have even a little bit of good faith to you here.

[The Bulge]

I'm done entertaining your obstinacy