Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[unwnd]

I am petty though

I think Brian Skies is scummy, I think his initial presence already irked me. When I confronted him about why he cared if people were mass-claiming, he fired back saying it was a joke. If we establish that I am petty and contentious, then I don't really think saying 'are we mass-claiming' seems in line of a joke, especially

when

people were claiming. I think he said that because he was afraid I viewed it as negative. Overall his behavior seems cautionary, he mentioned to me that yes, he was paying attention to the claims but I don't really know what it means. I think scum opt to busywork and hope people appreciate the effort instead of something coming from it. I can't see where Brian says as town 'oh yes, I was joking about mass-claiming' then said 'Well I was paying attention to the claims after all', like he even reiterated this in another post I'm too lazy to dig up.

Brian just happened to be someone who I already had issue with already conf biasing a few things in my head

VOTE: Brian Skies

[Fermis Flames]

first quote accidental.

Firebringer's content is troublesome, though. Not above my limbo line atm.

~ strange

[Tammy]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

[Gamma Emerald]

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Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.

why are you making the case i'm not scum with you? I mean, it's fine by me, but not sure how it helps you?

Because I am pissed off that he thinks that’s a viable worldview
I’m doing it for vindication’s sake

[Gamma Emerald]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

I do sometimes lmfao

[Fermis Flames]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

Oops

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel pretty good about the Gamma wagon, given how quickly it built. usually a good sign on day 1.

This is disingenuous as fuck. I can’t even press it as hard as I’d like to because he has legitimate meta of me doing this as scum. As such I think he’s trying to abuse the fuck out of that and push something I can never truly disprove. Kill this ffs!

[unwnd]

This may be preemptive but if Gamma/BM were TvT, I feel scum would just let them bicker amongst themselves and then have two voting opportunities if one eats the other alive. What should be a showmatch with multiple people betting on the hypothetical winner just feels like circumstance and dealing with it. Part of the reason why I feel it's SvT is that you have this strange compromise between the two where most people agree that BM is being just as much of an ass as Gamma... but Gamma is the one getting the most 'scum' declarations and then BM is just being anti-town.

To the people who care: What makes them different. Gamma seems liable on account of his own behavior and BM is again just sorta rude. I don't know if I care for that after stepping back for a few. I'll be honest and say I can't differentiate their posts in the last three-four pages.

eh, i think that's a strange interpretation. I don't think most people have called me an ass - I certainly haven't been reprimanded by the Mod, or been offensive/rude. I think if people don't like me posting frequently, that's fine, and if people don't think I have good reads, again, that's fine. But you seem to be trying to re-ignite bad feeling here without actually drawing any meaningful conclusion which would positively affect the game, which I think is both unnecessary, and anti-town.

I think it's probably fair to point out that lots of people in this game have played with me before, and know this is how I play as town, and that's presumably what they are using to judge my alignment - rather than anything personal or inflammatory. Your assessment above is about as 'surface-level' as it gets, and doesn't engage with any of the actual reasons people are voting for Gamma - construing it purely as the direct result of my interaction with him is not a fair reflection.

I ask because I want to know, you're right I have no conclusion

I don't know what you mean by 'not engaging any of the actual reasons voting gamma' because I'm pretty sure they've boiled down to him being excessive and lack of substance

That's definitely not the case on Gamma. maybe not engaging is the wrong phrase, and it's not understanding? but then my question is, why are you so interested in BM vs Gamma if you don't care enough about solving Gamma to understand why people are voting for him?

Additionally I'm struggling to see your protown motive for going back to this argument now it has settled down.

I already gave my interpretation of Gamma and so has one hundred million people as well. Gamma is more infectious than coronavirus at this rate but I find (you) to be less substantiated therefore I brought up the fight (you) are engaging in

[Battle Mage]

I don't know what you mean by 'not engaging any of the actual reasons voting gamma' because I'm pretty sure they've boiled down to him being excessive and lack of substance

This feels like a legitimate view of the situation
However I also agree unwnd looks like he is stirring the pot a bit here

wanna double team him?

i want to re-live one of my favourite mafia moments this year, when me and Menalque argued for about 20 pages about whose target was the scummiest, and eventually united to run up a 3rd compromise option.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

[unwnd]

If I were you BM (I'm not), and I was town and people were scumreading this guy I am scumreading, I'd think a little more of who is my friend and who is just trying to gain credibility? You don't find it odd Brian Skies says you're just anti-town but seems pretty close to killing you in his ordered list?

[Lady Lambdadelta]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

[Battle Mage]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

i generally assume anyone using the term "boomer" as an insult is over 60, although I'm not even sure what it means

all i know is, FoS's are rad!

[Gamma Emerald]

I already gave my interpretation of Gamma and so has one hundred million people as well. Gamma is more infectious than coronavirus at this rate but I find (you) to be less substantiated therefore I brought up the fight (you) are engaging in

Odk how to actually take this bug comparing me to COVID-19 is honestly pretty damn funny

I don't know what you mean by 'not engaging any of the actual reasons voting gamma' because I'm pretty sure they've boiled down to him being excessive and lack of substance

This feels like a legitimate view of the situation
However I also agree unwnd looks like he is stirring the pot a bit here

wanna double team him?

i want to re-live one of my favourite mafia moments this year, when me and Menalque argued for about 20 pages about whose target was the scummiest, and eventually united to run up a 3rd compromise option.

Maybe later, but aorn I have little interest in working with you. I guess this is a good step, but I’m not going to reward a lone step forward.

[Bell]

VOTE: fermis flames

[Battle Mage]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

[Gamma Emerald]

Vote me then, coward.

She speaks!

If you’re the top scumread I have after I do a proper reading, sure. For now my vote stays right where it is.

[Gamma Emerald]

I really feel like this game has become an insider vs. outsider game

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

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Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.

In addition, curious why people are voting me at this point. I have given reads, so what’s the fucking deal?

i don't see what this game has to do with battle mage

[Battle Mage]

If I were you BM (I'm not), and I was town and people were scumreading this guy I am scumreading, I'd think a little more of who is my friend and who is just trying to gain credibility? You don't find it odd Brian Skies says you're just anti-town but seems pretty close to killing you in his ordered list?

nah, i havent interpretted his list in the way you have. it reads to me that he just wants to criticise me personally, but doesn't actually think I'm scum.

and also nah, i'm not currently worrying too much about who is bussing and who is doing the Lord's work. it's day 1, let's elim scum and then go from there.

[unwnd]

If I were you BM (I'm not), and I was town and people were scumreading this guy I am scumreading, I'd think a little more of who is my friend and who is just trying to gain credibility? You don't find it odd Brian Skies says you're just anti-town but seems pretty close to killing you in his ordered list?

nah, i havent interpretted his list in the way you have.

it reads to me that he just wants to criticise me personally, but doesn't actually think I'm scum.

and also nah, i'm not currently worrying too much about who is bussing and who is doing the Lord's work. it's day 1, let's elim scum and then go from there.

Yes and that's what I don't like lol

[Battle Mage]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84467
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84480

Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.

why are you making the case i'm not scum with you? I mean, it's fine by me, but not sure how it helps you?

Because I am pissed off that he thinks that’s a viable worldview
I’m doing it for vindication’s sake

ah, see we agree on something else then! well that it's not a viable worldview anyway!

[Fermis Flames]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

i generally assume anyone using the term "boomer" as an insult is over 60, although I'm not even sure what it means

all i know is, FoS's are rad!

I was just teasing and making an old out of touch joke based on your join date.

I don’t actually care if people use fos’s I was mostly just amusing myself

[Battle Mage]

If I were you BM (I'm not), and I was town and people were scumreading this guy I am scumreading, I'd think a little more of who is my friend and who is just trying to gain credibility? You don't find it odd Brian Skies says you're just anti-town but seems pretty close to killing you in his ordered list?

nah, i havent interpretted his list in the way you have.

it reads to me that he just wants to criticise me personally, but doesn't actually think I'm scum.

and also nah, i'm not currently worrying too much about who is bussing and who is doing the Lord's work. it's day 1, let's elim scum and then go from there.

Yes and that's what I don't like lol

so are you saying you're just testing him to confirm that? I can live with that approach. My concern with you was you were misconstruing his post to suggest he did think I'm scum.