Xenoblade 2 Mafia: Game Over

[borkjerfkin]

Votecount 1.3

[5] SirCakez (Cabd, midwaybear, Fermis Flames, ManWithNoName, MariaR)
[4] Battle Mage (SirCakez, Firebringer, beeboy, Gamma Emerald)
[4] Gamma Emerald (REAGAN BUSH 84, Battle Mage, Brian Skies, Lady Lambdadelta)
[1] beeboy (l4pe)
[1] Brian Skies (unwnd)
[1] Cobra Kai (noraa)
[1] Fermis Flames (Bell)
[1] noraa (Flavor Leaf)

[4] Not Voting (Cobra Kai, Dunnstral, Guillotina, Will catch up later maybe)

With 22 alive, it is 12 to eliminate.

Let me know if you see any problems.

Deadline is in (expired on 2020-11-30 13:00:00)

[Fermis Flames]

VOTE: fermis flames

Uhhhh you can’t vote us because we haven’t voted you yet for you to respond with this vote.

[Brian Skies]

Im fairly caught up now.

cabd
*maria
firebringer
L4pe
Fermis Flames
reagan

more town
unwnd

mebbe town
midwaybear
flavor leaf
Guillotina

less town
*manwithnoname

Antitown

, but is it scum?
Battlemage

Sketch
LLD

Very Probably Scum
Gamma

[Battle Mage]

Someone should tell boomer mage that we don’t use fos anymore :p

i generally assume anyone using the term "boomer" as an insult is over 60, although I'm not even sure what it means

all i know is, FoS's are rad!

I was just teasing and making an old out of touch joke based on your join date.

I don’t actually care if people use fos’s I was mostly just amusing myself

haha i've played some fogies games this year, and we did in fact use FoS's!

[REAGAN BUSH 84]

VOTE: fermis flames

Uhhhh you can’t vote us because we haven’t voted you yet for you to respond with this vote.

lmao

[Gamma Emerald]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84467
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84480

Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.

In addition, curious why people are voting me at this point. I have given reads, so what’s the fucking deal?

i don't see what this game has to do with battle mage

Look at my attitude towards Blitzo. Now imagine the same sort of attitude but based on much more negative experience with the player. Now consider that a scum PT is less avoidable than a neighborhood if you want to keep appraised of what’s going on and what the team plan is. Do you not think I would have already completely broken if my feelings are legit?
If you think me being scum with BM is possible, either you think I’m lying in which case you are despicable (this was the best I could put my feelings that didn’t err to light or harsh pls don’t hurt me mod), or you expect me to withstand a scum PT with the person I dislike the most in this playerlist.

[unwnd]

If I were you BM (I'm not), and I was town and people were scumreading this guy I am scumreading, I'd think a little more of who is my friend and who is just trying to gain credibility? You don't find it odd Brian Skies says you're just anti-town but seems pretty close to killing you in his ordered list?

nah, i havent interpretted his list in the way you have.

it reads to me that he just wants to criticise me personally, but doesn't actually think I'm scum.

and also nah, i'm not currently worrying too much about who is bussing and who is doing the Lord's work. it's day 1, let's elim scum and then go from there.

Yes and that's what I don't like lol

so are you saying you're just testing him to confirm that? I can live with that approach. My concern with you was you were misconstruing his post to suggest he did think I'm scum.

Thumbs up

[Cobra Kai]

I think Gamma’s stance on LLD is very surface level. I’m townreading LLD. Before it’s asked, no I don’t have an explainable reason.

[Battle Mage]

i feel pretty good about the Gamma wagon, given how quickly it built. usually a good sign on day 1.

This is disingenuous as fuck. I can’t even press it as hard as I’d like to because he has legitimate meta of me doing this as scum. As such I think he’s trying to abuse the fuck out of that and push something I can never truly disprove. Kill this ffs!

lol you say it's disingenuous, but also completely consistent with how I should view you based on "legitimate meta"?

i mean maybe you can't disprove it because we're right? the post above was more a reflection on general wagon behaviour than about you specifically anyway.

[Brian Skies]

When I confronted him about why he cared if people were mass-claiming, he fired back saying it was a joke. If we establish that I am petty and contentious, then I don't really think saying 'are we mass-claiming' seems in line of a joke, especially when people were claiming.

Bruh.

This isn't my first rodeo.

Nobody mass claims immediately in theme games, let alone large ones.

[Gamma Emerald]

im willing to buy that the personal attacks are quite genuine

i just think theyre nai

What is this supposed to mean

@Cobra I won’t deny that assertion, because it is. But it felt like such a break from her standard personality that I needed to press it. People just writing off as town should probably actually be sussed, especially if they have meta with LLD.

[Battle Mage]

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=84467
viewtopic.php?f=90&t=84480

Read me in both of these and tell me if you think I handle a second of being scum with BM after I made up my mind on him.

In addition, curious why people are voting me at this point. I have given reads, so what’s the fucking deal?

i don't see what this game has to do with battle mage

Look at my attitude towards Blitzo. Now imagine the same sort of attitude but based on much more negative experience with the player. Now consider that a scum PT is less avoidable than a neighborhood if you want to keep appraised of what’s going on and what the team plan is. Do you not think I would have already completely broken if my feelings are legit?
If you think me being scum with BM is possible, either you think I’m lying in which case you are despicable (this was the best I could put my feelings that didn’t err to light or harsh pls don’t hurt me mod), or you expect me to withstand a scum PT with the person I dislike the most in this playerlist.

i'm sure you could be making these points in a more tactful and sensitive way.

[Gamma Emerald]

i feel pretty good about the Gamma wagon, given how quickly it built. usually a good sign on day 1.

This is disingenuous as fuck. I can’t even press it as hard as I’d like to because he has legitimate meta of me doing this as scum. As such I think he’s trying to abuse the fuck out of that and push something I can never truly disprove. Kill this ffs!

lol you say it's disingenuous, but also completely consistent with how I should view you based on "legitimate meta"?

i mean maybe you can't disprove it because we're right? the post above was more a reflection on general wagon behaviour than about you specifically anyway.

The point is you were pushing something that is objectively valid but not a solid reason. Why the hell is the wagon speed on me indicative of me being scum? The in-practice aspect of what you say made sense, but the theoretical seems jacked up. Wouldn’t fast wagon = town wagonee more often than not? The resistance to my wagon is notoriously sparse.
But no, you overlook all of that because you wanted to press something I would have a hard time countering.

[unwnd]

I remember it started sometime in May, but after checking it ended in July.
About BM, I didn't really townread him. I just find the way he plays to be a little grating personally, but Cakez reasons didn't seem too substantiated to me. Considering that Cakez apparently only played in BM scum games, it's a bit weird. I like that Cakez backed off though, but neither of them are really confident reads rn.

Forgot to respond. Gamma/BM seems like a clear battle going on, what's your take on it?

Afk

It's bizarre and my initial impression is that

Gamma is probably trying to sacc himself to make BM look better.

I could be wrong, but that's how it feels to me.

BM I just want to point out this post to you because maybe you missed it when you told me 'omg Brian is just insulting my play or whatever he doesn't think I'm scummy'

[Cabd]

I have to admit, fferytammysyr, your reaction to my reads fell really flat.

And I'm kinda sad about that.

I'm in the middle of a reread right now. Syr scummoned me to look at LLD posts and I find this awaiting me.

Your reads list mostly doesn't bother me. Just about everyone I'm townreading is on it. Along with a couple not-town-reads that I'm hoping I understand better after rereading. And you moved us up for reasons unknown.

In fact this post is the first post by you that's actually raised my hackles.

I thought your day 3 ticket was punched. :/

~ strange

What do you think I meant by "Sad"?

[Gamma Emerald]

You think I’m in the mood for tact when the entire game is basically showing me the door not even 12 hours in? When you’re this off-base someone needs to provide the adequate amount of bile.

[L4pe]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

what?

[Cabd]

the entire game

{Fermis, Midway, Skies, L4pe}

{Battlemage, Maria}

{Leaf, unwnd, Regan, Guillotina}

{

Gamma

, Fire}

~~~~~Elimination Limbo Pole~~~~~~

[Battle Mage]

i feel pretty good about the Gamma wagon, given how quickly it built. usually a good sign on day 1.

This is disingenuous as fuck. I can’t even press it as hard as I’d like to because he has legitimate meta of me doing this as scum. As such I think he’s trying to abuse the fuck out of that and push something I can never truly disprove. Kill this ffs!

lol you say it's disingenuous, but also completely consistent with how I should view you based on "legitimate meta"?

i mean maybe you can't disprove it because we're right? the post above was more a reflection on general wagon behaviour than about you specifically anyway.

The point is you were pushing something that is objectively valid but not a solid reason. Why the hell is the wagon speed on me indicative of me being scum? The in-practice aspect of what you say made sense, but the theoretical seems jacked up. Wouldn’t fast wagon = town wagonee more often than not? The resistance to my wagon is notoriously sparse.
But no, you overlook all of that because you wanted to press something I would have a hard time countering.

short answer is no, normally fast wagon on day 1 = scum wagonee. quick building and lack of opposition to a wagon in a situation like this is a good indicator it's more likely on scum.

[Battle Mage]

I’m VERY curious how a post restriction fits into this setup at all jsyk
I’m calling your bluff LLD.

Oh shit does LLD have a posting restriction?

X

???

If you don’t have one then what the legitimate FUCK are you doing????? Like I’m legitimately baffled that you’d ever consider playing in such a blatantly anti-town way. As such I think you have to be scum for it.

Vote me then, coward.

this is the towniest of towns

what?

eh?

[Will catch up later maybe]

does anyone want to drive my blade, if you know what i mean?

the more i say that in my head, the dirtier it sounds

-Nacho

[Cabd]

I have to admit, fferytammysyr, your reaction to my reads fell really flat.

And I'm kinda sad about that.

I'm in the middle of a reread right now. Syr scummoned me to look at LLD posts and I find this awaiting me.

Your reads list mostly doesn't bother me. Just about everyone I'm townreading is on it. Along with a couple not-town-reads that I'm hoping I understand better after rereading. And you moved us up for reasons unknown.

In fact this post is the first post by you that's actually raised my hackles.

I thought your day 3 ticket was punched. :/

~ strange

What do you think I meant by "Sad"?

I think the game has moved on well past the point where I am getting any additional traction on cakes without casewalling, I had hoped to catch you "in the minute" and we could do the brick-wall-buildy thing, but I'm sad because that didn't happen.

I don't like the Gamma wagon. I think the frustration is genuine AND alignment indicative.

[L4pe]

im willing to buy that the personal attacks are quite genuine

i just think theyre nai

What is this supposed to mean

reading the post explains the post

[Battle Mage]

I remember it started sometime in May, but after checking it ended in July.
About BM, I didn't really townread him. I just find the way he plays to be a little grating personally, but Cakez reasons didn't seem too substantiated to me. Considering that Cakez apparently only played in BM scum games, it's a bit weird. I like that Cakez backed off though, but neither of them are really confident reads rn.

Forgot to respond. Gamma/BM seems like a clear battle going on, what's your take on it?

Afk

It's bizarre and my initial impression is that

Gamma is probably trying to sacc himself to make BM look better.

I could be wrong, but that's how it feels to me.

BM I just want to point out this post to you because maybe you missed it when you told me 'omg Brian is just insulting my play or whatever he doesn't think I'm scummy'

ah good spot - i had responded to that but hadnt put 2 and 2 together.

[Brian Skies]

I don't like the Gamma wagon. I think the frustration is genuine AND alignment indicative.

I promise to revisit it at some point. Don't expect too much.