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[Iconeum]

pedit: what you referring to? the way you started softing but asked to go last? i'll have to go reread that

yeah, and by how i reacted to mini's doc claim

[Datisi]

is this game close to balance with

doctor, 1x bp, checker

v

1-shot rolecop
goon/weak pr like informed?

spitballing, i think so

i think it's ~balanced if either of you are scum here which is lowkey why i want to ignore claims altogether because god knows i don't know enough about mech to solve the game that way

[shellyc]

in favour of datisi:
-iv interactions (dont really seem s/s but will Reread ASAP)
-iv pushing
-checker claim fitting w/ setup

in favour of ico:
-this is a bad lylo for scum!ico
-1-shot BP claim and interactions with mini.
-universally townread since iv townflip. proactively formed the Townblock iirc

[Iconeum]

hot take

shellyc is a goon/non-blocking scum role and their preferred lylo was datisi/BM/shellyc but couldn't kill me :p

[Datisi]

hotter take: this is the best lylo for literally any scum here considering BM was probably never getting executed today

[shellyc]

hotter take: this is the best lylo for literally any scum here considering BM was probably never getting executed today

its not the best for ico imo

bm was going to look at me and might have voted me in 3-way

[Iconeum]

inb4 vengefull bulletproof, vig and ascetic neighbour doctor lol

what are the odds of 2 town roles in a 9p mini that protect from kills?

close to zero, right?

i think ur scum

1-shot rolecop and what looks to be a full roleblocker

vs full doc/full gunsmith/??

Why do you believe there is a third tpr?

i've got a feeling we are going to see more non-vt claims

In a normal case, if both you and BM are flipped (green), assuming 2 nightkills, this game is LONG over by the time i need to worry about something like that.

To me they way this is said is in a “I won’t be a night kill” kind of way

well, ur not wrong

i just wish i was vengefull this game

that woulda been awesome lol

all these posts were hints/crumbs/references to me being BP

[Iconeum]

i think 1426 is especially worth laughing about lol

[Iconeum]

a scum!shellyc who came into this game with the idea to fake gunsmith would have prepared those crumbs
it's ballsy for sure

but it would explain the early claim (prior to even being at E-1 IIRC)

[Iconeum]

datisi crumbs are on the lazier end of the datisi!crumb scale, but is probably NAI

[Iconeum]

i'm just gonna townspew myself here and work from there

Why does scum!Ico see a doc claim, and then go 'i'm BP'
i don't gain anything from that, in the contrary even

[Datisi]

datisi crumbs are on the lazier end of the datisi!crumb scale, but is probably NAI

fun fact: i actually wanted to use my classic "first letter in last word of posts at the beginning of the game" crumbing style, but i started, made one post, then fucked it up, then decided to just throw it all in one post later

[Iconeum]

Spoiler:

you know what, if this is true or not, but the entire concept of you thinking this makes me townread you here

ico, pls enlighten me why you think this is town!indicative thinking?

the solving GB part in it

ok but like why?

like it's a read that's very easy to invent and that's easy to walk back from later (also it's lowkey worrying those are the only reads he had coming back but)

don't see a problem

"sorting" in of itself gets less and less as a towntell the more experience someone has

and coming in with an "early read" on page 20, that is quite easy to toss away later, *while* not commenting on the 7-8 other slots (and openly saying they're not even trying to read some of them) would sooner make me think that the read is ~for show~ rather than genuine sorting

do you see why i don't think it's a townbinnable thing?

you should definitely indirectly shade me more without engaging me/talking to someone else!

i don't think this is scum!iv interacting with their buddy tbh

[shellyc]

a scum!shellyc who came into this game with the idea to fake gunsmith would have prepared those crumbs
it's ballsy for sure

but it would explain the early claim (prior to even being at E-1 IIRC)

do you think from a scum!shelly pov, she gets a role pm of goon or whatevz, she sees her partner iv being 1-shot rolecop, and assumes gunsmith fits in the setup for whatever reason?

[shellyc]

i wish this was all a dream and sirius trolled us

[shellyc]

datisi are you scum

[Iconeum]

Spoiler:

you should definitely indirectly shade me more without engaging me/talking to someone else!

you are free to answer 73 (

cough

153) and 186 whenever you're ready

do you have any explanation for your reads that don't include stretching tells about activity?

yeah but like, those aren’t even the things that you shaded me for

ok and? you're complaining that i'M NoT eNgAgInG yOu, i clearly am, and you're choosing to ignore it and instead present and explain one (1) read whose entire basis is "not posting"??

why do you care so much about random answers to questions from like, many pages ago

I like don’t understand

like do you even care about the answers?

I like, also don’t have to share every read that I have and I feel like you’re making it seem like I’m scummy because of that alone

because i'm trying to figure out if your reads are bullshit you make up on the spot

and when the only explanation to a read you have provided so far in the entire game is "hurr durr this person didn't post so no scum pt" and you're actively avoiding questions, it's starting to become *concerning*

what’s your read on me right now?

you kind of just came the conclusion that my georgebailey read was BS? or am I misinterpreting

back to null, trending downwards

pedit: yes, for the reasons i laid out earlier, i do think your beorgegailey read smells of bullshit

do you think i'm scum, iv?

or is it too much to ask to share that read?

so you didn’t think to engage me on the thing you ACTUALLY thought was scummy though

like null trending downwards

i'm pretty sure i already said that your lack of any reads based on content actually posted in the game was way worse but go off i guess

pedit: s i g h

instead let’s talk about other useless questions You pretend to care about!

i'm pretty sure i already said that your lack of any reads based on content actually posted in the game was way worse

I don’t recall tbh

okay I guess scumread anyone who isn’t posting their full readlists on page 2 and townread anyone who is!

oh wait...

also

like it's a read that's very easy to invent and that's easy to walk back from later

(also it's lowkey worrying those are the only reads he had coming back but)

and coming in with an "early read" on page 20, that is quite easy to toss away later,

*while* not commenting on the 7-8 other slots (and openly saying they're not even trying to read some of them)

would sooner make me think that the read is ~for show~ rather than genuine sorting

maybe i didn't fucking spell it out letter for letter but

okay I guess scumread anyone who isn’t posting their full readlists on page 2 and townread anyone who is!

what the fuck are you even trying to say with this

like i'm not townreading people for ~*posting readslists*~?

my read on shelly has n o t h i n g to do with the fact she has or hasn't made readslists / shared all her reads? like did you even read the game?

pedit: oh hi ydrasse

so to be clear.

Someone who talks about all their reads - NAI
Someone who doesn’t talk much about their reads - scummy

yes?

oh wait, do you still want me to answer the question about why I lol scumleaned ico on page 3 when he posted a meme? I’m sure that will really help you figure out my alignment

oh and, to be clear, as much as I’d like this to be a scum thing because I really don’t believe you care about those questions answered, it’s still possivle you’re just town and don’t like it when people don’t answer your questions

so to be clear.

Someone who talks about all their reads - NAI
Someone who doesn’t talk much about their reads - scummy

yes?

mostly, but i really don't think this is as black-and-white as you're making it out to be because the way people talk about them and also personal meta etc but go on

pedit: it would surely be nice to know what your read on ico is, yes :upside_down_emoji:

ppedit: ...

pppedit: oh hi gypyx

you know what, i'm gonna go for a walk before i say something ~inappropriate~

so why didn’t you ask that question instead (:

because if you have a problem answering a simple fucking reads question from page 3 or whatever how can i expect that you answer a--

you know what no
walking away
see y'all later

after rereading this

i'm literally *-* this close to voting shellyc here

[shellyc]

oh god oh fuck i dont know

pedit: AAAAAAAAAAAH

[Iconeum]

a scum!shellyc who came into this game with the idea to fake gunsmith would have prepared those crumbs
it's ballsy for sure

but it would explain the early claim (prior to even being at E-1 IIRC)

do you think from a scum!shelly pov, she gets a role pm of goon or whatevz, she sees her partner iv being 1-shot rolecop, and assumes gunsmith fits in the setup for whatever reason?

i'm town, and i'm 1 shot BP. And I just saw a full doc flip. I'm not taking this setup into consideration, but going mostly off of dayplay here and just pretend we are all VT claims.

Setup literally doesn't make sense

[shellyc]

on one hand, we have ico-mini, scum!ico basically counterclaimin' (BP) doesn't make sense
iv-daddytisi doesn't make sense either

I'm still 50/50

[Iconeum]

Spoiler:

new avi who dis



vaguely in the order of would not yeet > would yeet:

ico - so like. this just looks like classic town!ico that i’ve played the last god knows how many games with. (do you ever roll scum anymore?) didn’t see anything red-flagy, don’t feel like i’m being led astray, his reactions feel like they always do, etc, etc. i won’t waste time typing here.

ydrasse - if this is scum, i’mma hate myself for falling into that pocket. the paranoia on me feels townie as it almost seems too... convoluted? illogical? for scum to make up. also feels decently solve-y for day one.

staarling - the tone is good, each post follows a clear train of thought... while i *could* see her being scum, i think it’s more likely she’s Just Town? i wish you posted more, though :c

george - he is like, close to null, maybe a smigde towards town. i cooould be getting fooled here because of haunted village, but... eh. i feel what he’s saying about mini, and for some reason, i feel like scum!george would’ve jumped on the shelly wagon there that was building? unless obviously they’re scumbuddies, but do i ever nail a scumteam on day one...

gypyx - first i kinda thought this would be much more towards town due to start-of-day tonal read thing, but as i was rereading his iso, i thought that’s the only thing he has going for him? like tonally he still feels more town than not, but he seems to have trailed off as the day is progressing. the only serious vote being on a at-the-time non-poster is... ehh.

iv - what even. fuck if i know. my first thought is to townbin people being purposefully difficult with me, becuase ~what is the scum motivation behind that~, and i got burned enough times by that.

mini - right, what exactly feels solvey here? i think ico said she’s commenting on what he’d expect her to, but i dunno chief, i just don’t see it. also the read on me feels like weird shading.

shelly - ... i think i have explained my read here, like, a lot of times by this point, but two main things, again.
> townbins me, then takes me out of the townpool for “pocketing ydrasse”, a read that clearly didn’t make any sense given what happened.
> townbins me for going against the grain. later on shades me and calls it “weird” and asserts that she’s inclined to scumread people who have differing takes than her. i call her out beause she was townreading me for the *exact same thing* earlier, but no, that was situational (???) because the most of the game was scumreading gypyx at the time. (which is when she started townbinning me originally???)
(also apparently ico is disagreeable and that’s “another reason to townbin him” lmfao)

this would literally fit with town!tisi having both scum in the null-scum pool early on

[Iconeum]

on one hand, we have ico-mini, scum!ico basically counterclaimin' (BP) doesn't make sense
iv-daddytisi doesn't make sense either

I'm still 50/50

but that shellyc bus and early claim is just so…

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[shellyc]

i had a flashforward that scum!datisi won this game just now

i will reread for the secret datisi scumtell that i think i found last week

[Iconeum]

actual feelings rn

[shellyc]

daddy