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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:57 am

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I can also see !townJDye dog-chasing-a-bone obssession over 1 post more than I can see !townFF, !townSpang

Egix is basically a wildcard like always. His interactions with other players makes me feel like he is compatible with most scum pairings.
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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 5:55 am

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Vote Count 3.1
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Vanadium, 23V
— transition metal, standard atomic weight 50.94, group 5, period 4, d-block


fferyllt
(1):

Not voting
(6): JDye, Mizzytastic, safebet222, fferyllt, Spangled, Egix96

With 7 alive, it takes 4 votes to eliminate.

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(expired on 2020-11-24 03:25:00)
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:15 am

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@Mod Is the timer correct? I think it malfunctioned again.
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 6:20 am

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In post 977, safebet222 wrote:
@Mod Is the timer correct? I think it malfunctioned again.
Oops, fixed (this is my fault, I keep thinking there are 10 days instead of 7)
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:11 am

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Ok... @Mizzy... I think 72 is correct that massclaim is not good for town here. I don't think there is incentive for scum to do anything but claim VT in any setup. Except for...
In post 973, 72offsuit wrote: a) If we are in a 1 PR setup, scum just claim vanilla, and the PR gets night killed.
In this situation, unless there was a NK gambit, the 1PR is JK... Scum could claim tracker or FN... So town can't even trust the massclaim result fully unless there is a doc setup. It might benefit town if we are in the cop and doc setup and cop has hit scum. And even then I'm not sure outing that before MELo/ ELo is good either.

Let me know why I'm wrong if I am.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:16 am

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Massclaiming now would throw away one of the town benefits of no elim yesterday.
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:18 am

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VOTE: Spangled

Your play trying to convince us to elim in a rush at the end of yesterday coupled with your massclaim advocacy doesn't look good.
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 am

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viewtopic.php?f=11&t=84499
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=84118
viewtopic.php?f=50&t=84085
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viewtopic.php?t=82578 (replaced out early day 2)

I'm going to work on this meta today. I still think 72 is town, but the tunneling is giving me hives and I want some reassurance I'm not townreading aggro play if it's NAI or a scum marker for 72. Gonna feel pretty dumb if I stalled a scumwagon.

Also going to do an egix dive but I haven't crawled through his completed games yet.

After that I'll regroup and figure out what I want to do next.
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:37 pm

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Y r u focusing your efforts on a townread rather than pressuring a scumread?
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:38 pm

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VOTE: Spangled
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 1:50 pm

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Spangled at E-2
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:44 pm

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More town apathy?
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:53 pm

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Actually lets do

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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:59 pm

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Hats ur up to date readslist safebet?
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 3:59 pm

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What's *
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:18 pm

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Hold on...putting kids to bed
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:31 pm

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TOWN
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72... you get your own category... Polarizing Scumtown??? In other words I don't know what to think about you. Your 1v1 with JDye screams TvT but your constant moving on scum reads is unsettling. Your no massclaim analysis is spot on in my opinion and what you say in your own defense about your playstyle makes sense along with your play at the end of D2. I'm gonna play nice with you for now... but my vote stays on Spangled.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 4:35 pm

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What time is it where you are at?
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:00 pm

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My day did not turn out as expected!

I'm here now and and starting work on meta stuff. I'll check in for posts occasionally.
In post 983, 72offsuit wrote:Y r u focusing your efforts on a townread rather than pressuring a scumread?
Because I want to be sure of my read since I stood athwart your elim yesterday. I want to be sure I was right to do that. I am still angsting about it due to screwing up a very similar situation in a game that ended about a couple weeks ago.

If I'd had time after replacing in at the end of Day 2 I would have done at least some meta research on you and a couple other players then.
In post 992, safebet222 wrote:What time is it where you are at?
Not addressed to me, but US Pacific time (UTC-8). My sleep is haywire, though. No telling when I'll be up and working on the game.
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:52 pm

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Right now its 5:51pm in Melbourne. Home from work. Prepping dinner soon.
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:54 pm

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In post 993, fferyllt wrote:My day did not turn out as expected!

I'm here now and and starting work on meta stuff. I'll check in for posts occasionally.
In post 983, 72offsuit wrote:Y r u focusing your efforts on a townread rather than pressuring a scumread?
Because I want to be sure of my read since I stood athwart your elim yesterday. I want to be sure I was right to do that. I am still angsting about it due to screwing up a very similar situation in a game that ended about a couple weeks ago.

If I'd had time after replacing in at the end of Day 2 I would have done at least some meta research on you and a couple other players then.
In post 992, safebet222 wrote:What time is it where you are at?
Not addressed to me, but US Pacific time (UTC-8). My sleep is haywire, though. No telling when I'll be up and working on the game.
Had you voted for me yesterday how likely do you think I was to be elim'ed?
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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:55 pm

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In post 991, safebet222 wrote:TOWN
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FF Null to slight scumlean based on C4 hard defending Cyl and I now see Spangled as my main scum read right now.
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72... you get your own category... Polarizing Scumtown??? In other words I don't know what to think about you. Your 1v1 with JDye screams TvT but your constant moving on scum reads is unsettling. Your no massclaim analysis is spot on in my opinion and what you say in your own defense about your playstyle makes sense along with your play at the end of D2. I'm gonna play nice with you for now... but my vote stays on Spangled.
FF is second scummiest. Why not wagon FF with me? FF has soft-claimed already.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:57 pm

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In post 993, fferyllt wrote:My day did not turn out as expected!

I'm here now and and starting work on meta stuff. I'll check in for posts occasionally.
In post 983, 72offsuit wrote:Y r u focusing your efforts on a townread rather than pressuring a scumread?
Because I want to be sure of my read since I stood athwart your elim yesterday. I want to be sure I was right to do that. I am still angsting about it due to screwing up a very similar situation in a game that ended about a couple weeks ago.

If I'd had time after replacing in at the end of Day 2 I would have done at least some meta research on you and a couple other players then.
In post 992, safebet222 wrote:What time is it where you are at?
Not addressed to me, but US Pacific time (UTC-8). My sleep is haywire, though. No telling when I'll be up and working on the game.
Still no reads list. Just more waffle.
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:03 pm

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In post 992, safebet222 wrote:What time is it where you are at?
It was 12:35 lunchtime when you asked this.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:05 pm

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In post 991, safebet222 wrote:TOWN
Yours truly
Mizzy
JDye
Egix Null
FF Null to slight scumlean based on C4 hard defending Cyl and I now see Spangled as my main scum read right now.
Spangled
SCUM

72... you get your own category... Polarizing Scumtown??? In other words I don't know what to think about you. Your 1v1 with JDye screams TvT but your constant moving on scum reads is unsettling. Your no massclaim analysis is spot on in my opinion and what you say in your own defense about your playstyle makes sense along with your play at the end of D2. I'm gonna play nice with you for now... but my vote stays on Spangled.
How confident are you of your reads overall? Which reads are you the most confident of?

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