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Post Post #975 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:30 am

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Umlaut (5) - innocentvillager, TheGoldenParadox, Albert B. Rampage, NorwegianboyEE, Tayl0rSwift
muh316 (4) - Nero Cain, Glitch, Gamma Emerald, Umlaut
Guillotina (2) - NoPowerOverMe, TheDuke
Glitch (1) - May
Nero Cain (1) - muh316
DrippingGoofball (1) - Guillotina

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Post Post #976 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:32 am

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In post 973, innocentvillager wrote:i appreciate that guil is making the effort to PbPA Norway and ABR even if i personally don't think it's the most time-effective way to analyze. i don't mind playing with self absorbed players at all i think, as long as they're not dicks. Norway i don't think it makes them townier necessarily, but whatever makes you see the light i guess

i thinkkkk ABR is town though, mostly just tonally and some mindmelding
I like the first paragraph, i disagree with the second one.

Will you please point out what things you mindmelded with him on?
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Post Post #977 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:50 am

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In post 939, TheGoldenParadox wrote:
In post 938, Umlaut wrote:
In post 936, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Who do you think muh's scumbuddies are?
Why are you asking me for pre-flip associatives?

I don't know who his buddies are. I don't even know if he's scum.
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this is a lack of confidence in scumreads that i don't expect from town.


while i don't expect you to know if he's scum, that wording was terrible.
Do you expect confidence from the unaware majority on their scumreads on D1?
I think you are scum for this statement but I'm not 100% confident, what do you think about that?
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Post Post #978 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:18 am

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In post 944, Umlaut wrote:
In post 942, innocentvillager wrote:You really think scum!dgb who made a perfectly understandable and legitimate mistake

Doesn’t take the perfect opportunity to explain themselves here with that mess up to get towncred
That's entirely possible, sure. Wouldn't that imply there is towncred to be gained in the first place by admitting to the slip-up?
Innocentvillager is just scum calling town tells scum tells, except he's so overeager to do it that he's doing it on what's more likely to be read as a scum tell.

Now I've seen it all.
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Post Post #979 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:22 am

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dgb muh nero are solid scum. ill leave nero alone for now though and re-evaluate later.
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Post Post #980 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:52 am

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In post 978, DrippingGoofball wrote:
In post 944, Umlaut wrote:
In post 942, innocentvillager wrote:You really think scum!dgb who made a perfectly understandable and legitimate mistake

Doesn’t take the perfect opportunity to explain themselves here with that mess up to get towncred
That's entirely possible, sure. Wouldn't that imply there is towncred to be gained in the first place by admitting to the slip-up?
Innocentvillager is just scum calling town tells scum tells, except he's so overeager to do it that he's doing it on what's more likely to be read as a scum tell.

Now I've seen it all.
?? I get that you’re making fun of me for being dumb but like, maybe I’m so dumb that you need to spell out exactly what I’m dumb for

which makes me feel even dumber that I need to ask you to do this
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Post Post #981 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:54 am

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anyways I do not TR your reaction

I certainly don’t scumread it, Theres zero compelling reason to scumread it i think

I’m more concerned about umlauts read on the reaction, which feels lazy and disingenuous

can you answer why GE is scum? And now me, I guess?
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Post Post #982 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:01 am

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In post 976, Guillotina wrote:
In post 973, innocentvillager wrote:i appreciate that guil is making the effort to PbPA Norway and ABR even if i personally don't think it's the most time-effective way to analyze. i don't mind playing with self absorbed players at all i think, as long as they're not dicks. Norway i don't think it makes them townier necessarily, but whatever makes you see the light i guess

i thinkkkk ABR is town though, mostly just tonally and some mindmelding
I like the first paragraph, i disagree with the second one.

Will you please point out what things you mindmelded with him on?
i like ABR's tone on gut, if i had to describe it it feels loose/natural and like he's having a good time, not lamisty, but very direct towards actually finding scum (maybe this is just playstyle as both alignments but good enough for me rn I think)

he shares somewhat similar reads to me (like the PoE pool I quoted) and i like the jump on umlaut for obvious reasons

even when i disagree a bit it feels like i see where he's coming from

none of this is like, a crazy strong towntell but I like it overall

i don't buy your accusations towards him
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Post Post #983 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 10:37 am

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In post 978, DrippingGoofball wrote:Innocentvillager is just scum calling town tells scum tells, except he's so overeager to do it that he's doing it on what's more likely to be read as a scum tell.
Replace IV with Guillotina and I agree!
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Post Post #984 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:27 am

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that muh guy sure is hard to eliminate
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Post Post #985 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:30 am

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Anyone is hard to eliminate on d1.
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Post Post #986 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 am

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VOTE: muh
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Post Post #987 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:33 am

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eh sorta but eliminating scum, if the scum team is relatively active, is gonna be hard as fuck.

in MBOS it seemed like Gamma wasn't a hard lynch.
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Post Post #988 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:37 am

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In post 983, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 978, DrippingGoofball wrote:Innocentvillager is just scum calling town tells scum tells, except he's so overeager to do it that he's doing it on what's more likely to be read as a scum tell.
Replace IV with Guillotina and I agree!

Time to thunderdome scum.

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Case me! In your own words, why am I scum?

I already said why were you and i got some more to add, let's do this.
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Post Post #989 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:38 am

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i kinda just want to flip someone
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Post Post #990 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:40 am

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gul, were you town reading muh?
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Post Post #991 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 11:52 am

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In post 971, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ok IV is added to the town list.
I feel like I could be of service to this town list, or more specifically of a tight knit circle with whom there is a mutual trust between.
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Post Post #992 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:01 pm

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Just because you know someone doesn't make them town.
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Post Post #993 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:06 pm

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In post 991, Pretentious wrote:
In post 971, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ok IV is added to the town list.
I feel like I could be of service to this town list, or more specifically of a tight knit circle with whom there is a mutual trust between.
i kinda think you're town
NoPowerOverMe wrote:Just because you know someone doesn't make them town.
who u referring to?
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Post Post #994 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:07 pm

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IV like really irks me.
In post 982, innocentvillager wrote:he shares somewhat similar reads to me (like the PoE pool I quoted)
he's talking about ABR here btw.
In post 974, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 666, Albert B. Rampage wrote:Glitch NPOM Umlot Kanna-slot and Golden

Pretty sure we have better than 50% odds of hitting scum in this group

I'll iso guillotine
i actually really liked this PoE tbh, even though i doubt it actually contains 3 scum
you like a POE that has, at most, 2 scum?

Wich 2 players in it do you think are scum?


In post 981, innocentvillager wrote:I certainly don’t scumread it, Theres zero compelling reason to scumread it i think
does that fence hurt?
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Post Post #995 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:14 pm

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im town reading Norway but I will say that he'd make some sense as a Taylor buddy so when/if she flips scum im going to strongly consider a norway flip, But taylor accusing me of bussing muh just looks like buddy play. So maybe im at

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Post Post #996 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:22 pm

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In post 990, Nero Cain wrote:gul, were you town reading muh?
No, I don't town read anyone. I'm still reading.

I town lean Norwee. I liked IV but I don't like it that he mindmelds with ABR.
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Post Post #997 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:22 pm

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Despite having read everything, I feel lost. Can someone just TL;DR the events of the last 10 pages?
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Post Post #998 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:25 pm

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In post 996, Guillotina wrote:I liked IV but I don't like it that he mindmelds with ABR.
i feel like this means that if IV is scum then ABR is town. IV hasn't scumhunted @ all this game and all he's does is co-opt ABRs read list.
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Post Post #999 (ISO) » Wed Nov 18, 2020 12:26 pm

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Also, I can't read Taylor. She could be open wolfing or she could be a scummy town player, so when I form a solid town block I will have to trust their read on Taylor or I don't know, I can't read her.

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