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[Datisi]

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[Datisi]

what do you imagine day 3 will look like

> 100 pages
> 5 different guilties
> shrieking, placing a vow to never play this cursed game again only to /in into another game 2 minutes later

[Datisi]

ico, tell me again

surely scum!you doesn't get into this game, and immediately starts dropping so much ~spicy info~ for the memes right? surely?

[Iconeum]

ico, tell me again

surely scum!you doesn't get into this game, and immediately starts dropping so much ~spicy info~ for the memes right? surely?

if you want me to just claim my intel, go for it

then you can decide lol

[Iconeum]

tho honestly, i'd prefer if you claimed first in that case

[Datisi]

i don't want you to claim your intel i want you to reassure me scum!you doesn't do this bullshit

[Iconeum]

if you wanna go paranoid mode go ahead

[Iconeum]

i think scum!me likes to keep things simpler then outing having information about 3 power roles on top of the existing claims

[Datisi]

yeah i think so too

and abr was already screaming about the cakes exe right

like softing all that power was simply unnecessary even through the lens of "trying to get cakez to hang"

[Datisi]

...but what if that's what he wants me to think!?

[Sirius9121]

paratisi strikes again

[Datisi]

something something occam's, town should go for what is probable not what is possible etc etc

i don't necessarily *like* this but i think the only ways to move forward here is to (1) kill someone or (2) massclaim and i thinkkkkkkk (1) is better right now

VOTE: cakez

yeet-1

might wanna hold out on the hammer because deas said he was gonna be giving reads soon or something
i think

[Iconeum]

DV didn't ask for time

With noraa repping out, i'm not really stuck in this day anymore

[Iconeum]

I heavily wanna avoid a repetition of the ABR-SirC fight today

[Datisi]

If I had something productive to post right now then I would be doing it.

Right now my main thoughts are that most posts made are not actually very helpful and I’m not convinced by noraa’s unsolicited meta

what are your reads right now?

I will post them when I get home

i was thinking about this post

and yes

[DeasVail]

I am confirming my reads now yeah, but I don't see it as being super important if the outcome of the day is decided anyway.

stops me from being lazy though!

[Iconeum]

something something occam's, town should go for what is probable not what is possible etc etc

i don't necessarily *like* this but i think the only ways to move forward here is to (1) kill someone or (2) massclaim and i thinkkkkkkk (1) is better right now

VOTE: cakez

yeet-1

might wanna hold out on the hammer because deas said he was gonna be giving reads soon or something
i think

this entire post feels like datisi giving me hammer/wanting me to hammer

[Iconeum]

I am confirming my reads now yeah, but I don't see it as being super important if the outcome of the day is decided anyway.

stops me from being lazy though!

go right ahead good sir

[Datisi]

I am confirming my reads now yeah, but I don't see it as being super important if the outcome of the day is decided anyway.

it's semi important because i don't know if i have anything to sort you on

[Datisi]

this entire post feels like datisi giving me hammer/wanting me to hammer

i mean you are not really wrong i guess?? idk if we even have anyone to wait on anymore other than deas

ik baltar said something about hammering but do i remember what?

[DeasVail]

DV's Tears:

[Datisi, innocentvillager, ABR]
[Iconeum, petapan]
[midwaybear, Gamma Emerald]
[VP Baltar, SirCakez]
[Noraa]

Some of these are based only on impressions from what I've read, and some who were more fuzzy to me I have done an ISO skim to refresh. I will be giving further thoughts on some of these reads shortly.

[Iconeum]

which ones are based only on impressions, and which ones are stronger?

[DeasVail]

There's definitely a sag in the middle

[DeasVail]

IV and ABR being at the top is based on their roles and their play around the roles. Prior to the claims, both slots were questionable to me in terms of gameplay, but the way that the claims emerged and how they have used their claimed roles to influence their view on the game feels organic and fits the kind of logic that I would expect from town.

Datisi is the kind of slot that I am naturally paranoid about. Posting that seems natural and effortless has fooled me before! But I do not want to sound fence-sitty about Datisi, and more importantly, I don't want to FEEL fence-sitty about Datisi. Is there anything about Datisi's posting that causes me to doubt he is town? No. Is there anything that I would expect him to differently as town? No. There are multiple points in reading the game where I have felt that a post from Datisi indicates he is town and if this somehow became a Shoshin situation I could try going back and finding them but for now I am satisfied with this read. I am not fence-sitting I swear!

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Iconeum's talking around their role feels low-effort and unnecessary from scum (in a similar vein to what Datisi was thinking in a recent post). It's difficult to explain the Iconeum read beyond this, but I kind of like comparing Iconeum to VP Baltar in my head. Where VP's questioning often seems like questions for the sake of questions (more on this later) and to fulfill a certain expectation, Iconeum's posting comes across to me more as just posting whatever they're thinking.

Petapan - I like their expressed frustration with the Shoshin-elim day and not getting to post. I have considered the possibility that this is mafia pretending to care but honestly that doesn't seem like petapan's vibe to me. 966 is [oddly] interesting to me because I think that mafia here just ask the questions instead of talking about how they're going to. Also pretending to have notes in 1055 is just not the kind of fake effort I expect from petapan as mafia. (Just some examples of posts by petapan that have stuck out to me)

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Midwaybear - I don't have too much to say. There are some things I like as his posting often seems to do the opposite of appease, and I find the general snark endearing okay?

Gamma - It's kind of nice how the recent move from Cakez to Noraa kind of mirrors my own. I would like to think that Gamma appearing AFFECTED by certain things happening in this game is town but I can't help but worry that there is a degree of pretending there.

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VP Baltar - I'm honestly so underwhelmed by this slot. There seems to be an over-focus on how much people have posted/how often, which in a fairly high-tempo, high post frequency game like this I think is a lot less important, but something easy for mafia to focus on. Questions often feel more forced (e.g. 979) as if they're coming from a mafia mindset of "hmmm... I should ask a probing question now". I think overall though it's VP's general positioning in the game that is concerning me. He is mediating, asking questions, posting opinions, but there is a real lack of anything there that convinces me he is as invested as town would be. He feels distant, safe, indifferent in some ways.

SirCakez - Didn't concern me much from memory on Day 1 but the main basis of my read is actually the reaction to the events of Day 2. I think there is certainly genuine frustration there but a post such as 1744 feels especially desperate because ABR's play seems obviously erratic in a way that would occur as either alignment. 1901 seems a little too over the top as a show of townie-ness. There is lingering uncertainty, but there always is I suppose.

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Noraa - I have gone back and forth on this a bit in my head, wondering if noraa as town could actually get this stressed out in response to pressure. But I always come back to thinking of Noraa as mafia. The biggest things for me are:
- The reaction to the Shoshin claim switch. It did not seem like a natural town response and much more like from someone who knew Shoshin was town and wasn't sure how to react.
- The more recent approach to my slot, going from OTT claims that my slot is obviously going to be found out as mafia to getting super bothered by me pointing out inconsistencies and inaccuracies in her posting.

[Iconeum]

you guys have no idea how many posts i've tried to write up

i just keep going in circles about what the correct play is here