PookyTheMagicalBear v Flavor Leaf (Game Over)

[Bell]

well

[Bell]

Also, I distinctly remember asking for a reprieve and you both fucking pushed me to a cliff.

[Double the Trouble]

Why are you so angry, like it’s just a game.
And apparently i’m scum in your mind so doesn’t that mean i’m doing a good job pushing you.

- Norwee

[Bell]

This feels really fucking familiar.
Is this the part why I'm supposed to unvote you and we're supposed to get along again.
But really you're desclating because I'm going to get you dead now or later and this is your attempt to push me to a breaking point before resocializing me.

Because I've done this as scum.
It works good imo.

[Bell]

Skip.

[Solstice]

[What makes this game different from Death Curse, which had a 165 page day one?]

Nothing, and if you recall, I stopped reading there too.

I have about an hour of free time during lunch, and then various spots of time in the evenings if I'm not spending time with my wife and kids. 30 pages of posts to sift through that include shit posts and walls of quotes becomes very difficult to maintain that I eventually just go with the flow of the game and worry about reading later when it slows down and I have specific things I want to look for.

I find reading ISOs to be a more productive use of time when I know what it is I am looking for. I don't engage conversations and I certainly don't care about anyone else's conversations, especially once they devolve into shit posts.

[Idk why I thought there was a posting disparity between this game and that one, I reviewed and they're similar. i missed more of your posts this game than i thought]

[I wish pichu and Double wouldn't comment on Bell so much -- I get that he can ignore it but I personally wouldn't be able to ignore them in his shoes. Having Bell freely speak as much as he seems to want to is beneficial to town no matter what his alignment is.]

~Morning

[Double the Trouble]

VOTE: Bell

- Norwee

[pichu]

thanks

[Bell]

#314 so town.
#313: jesus why are people tring ircher for this at the time. It's like a fluff post complaining about fluff posts while simultaneously saying he doesn't see a case on someone with a mixture of cheer leading. The middle content is okay though.
#321: I missed this post. I chuckled.
433: Squints* bucket for notes Pt.
Pichu lied when he said he'd TR you, if you TR'd him. I genuinely don't know if I can drag across finish line it's too early and I don't have enough information.:X
#489: Solstice next up with the vote. This is hard to differentiate between the town reading town PR play as scum play and the scum reading easy elimination as scum play.
This spiffeh vote is weird here. It can be wking being LHF defending or reaction testing or not. But it's pretty empty. Oh, oky that's not why they were voting them. Oh kay, that was why they were kinda voting them. Nice touch if scum imo it's wobbly in a townie way. Kind of reading between the lines here. Dunstral comes in to justify, solstice's vote. He's not wrong. Though this had the unfortunate effect of thinking I was on the right track tbh. If he's town we kind of fed in to each other. Bleh.
495: Wut.
496:Just a reiteration basically.
#553: /: The fuck is this?
593: I'm not sure if it makes sense to hold this conclusion where NK15 paying attention is a town point against their vote.
599 Interpretation without a position or decision. Game phase around this point and letting things walk is fine.

It occurred to me that when murdercat said it was a weird post that UK15 was omgusing me for voting a PR and that it was a weird post. Just not for the reasons I thought. Opps.

[Bell]

Yeah gunna need to quote full, made a formatting error. I let that fly out because of the added vote. Probably made to unbalance me.

[Bell]

General overview is going to be narrative around nK15 through the day.
At least some scum rode him. Probably, I hope. Or at least someone should be discernible from the play around it. If someone would like to assist in reading around or interpreting the pushes against Nk15 it would be appreciated.

Then swing by and do BM if my brain doesn't melt.

[Blade Dancer]

Official Vote Count 2.7

Polar Bear Express

(1): MURDERCAT

Creature

: (1) Spiffeh

Bell

(6): Ircher, pichu, Ydrasse, mastina, Toogeloo, Double the Trouble

Double the Trouble

(1): Bell

Spiffeh

(1): Creature

Dr Easy Bake

(1): Solstice

Not Voting

(3): Dr Easy Bake, Dunnstral, Polar Bear Express
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to execute.

Deadline

: (expired on 2020-12-22 18:21:00)

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[Bell]

So people that worked in the circle of awareness on UK15.

Spiffeh
Dunnstral
Bell
MC
Solstice
Pichu: 764 is kinda weird because it doesn't look like he's taking UK 15 into a real accounting based on other players. He has Solstice and I lower than Normal 15. Spiffeh outside of awareness or withholding. I don't think the lower read of me is coming from the UK15 angle or being registered but instead from the Noraa defense. He thinks I'm more unsure here according to a later argument, but once again I have info he does not. And also, I fake confidence all the time, so he forgot to make that a point. I even mention the theatrics outright which wasn't added in to his equation, I could spend hours and hours pointing stuff like this out btw. But I think I understand Pichu to a point now and understand that there is a fundamental flaw to his reading of players where he just kind of forgets a lot of stuff about them and doesn't back up when new information is added. He knows this is anti-Ev if he's wrong, but doesn't care.

Mastina: 793Unknown first posted on page 8. Mastina said she still had 20+ pages to read when given a neutral read on Uk15 exactly in the middle which sat there and carried over from the other list where she was football speculating on picks. I climbed in her estimation but 20 pages of reads means she moved me quite a bit higher.
She said she could see where I might be coming from on DBT but didn't comment as such on Uk15. . They would not have read the later votes on UK or the discussion around it at this point if you take her at her word.

Netflix and chill:

Sort of dragged into the awareness circle:
DBT. But didn't truly comment anyway. Besides saying I dunno.

People outside of it: Toog, Ydrasse, Noraa.


I need a time line for when and where awareness occurred. I'm not used to this sort of analysis that I'm trying here, so help me with blips. Issues or missed posts that show they were more aware earlier than than what I put. Obviously everybody skimmed it, but there might be a difference between skimming, skipping, and what motivation caused them to jump in or out based on that skim. In addition it's harder to do quote walls and keep people separate because this isn't elo. So it's just too scattered to do a truly detailed look at each rather than just a passby.I don't have mastina's willingness to do that, even as town here and even when getting pressured into claiming and putting our already low EV in the tank, I do put partial credit to Pichu for this. I'll try my best tho.

Releasing this unfinished part for now. Just ignore it if you want.

[Bell]

Good morning to you all. I'm not going to overspeculate, but I'm going to at least assume scum didn't go crazy with their role picks. I'm VT which means I'm just along for the ride this game. Flave's got his team he wants, Pooky his team of Masons he wants, other peeps got some juicy powerz probably, and then me... stuck in the middle twiddlin' my thumbs.

if ur town what r u actually doing
because if ur town ur just making it a tiny bit easier to shoot any PRs or masons if Pooky decided he wanted any.

If you're town you can volunteer your own perspective of when you became aware of UK and what you decided to do with that. Since that saves time.
If you can remember that far back.

[Bell]

Woops. Another one of them mistaken quote things.

[Flavor Leaf]

Was Hectic scum in TvA? I vaguely remember doing a this is scum or this is scum, and I think hectic was the other this is scum. i just chose to go the other first?

I don’t remember.

I just remember solving that game Day 1.

[Double the Trouble]

do you also remember lieing for the wine?

[Dr Easy Bake]

K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job.

Hol up y'all, what is the chance that there are two detectives in this game?
With this many players is that possible?
I don't really deal with too much setup spec and my modded games are nuts so I have no reference for tamer games.

[Flavor Leaf]

Lying does not equate to WIFOMing with a false statement.

[Double the Trouble]

K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job.

Hol up y'all, what is the chance that there are two detectives in this game?
With this many players is that possible?
I don't really deal with too much setup spec and my modded games are nuts so I have no reference for tamer games.

probably not gonna happen
why?

[Polar Bear Express]

[I believe what she's saying is that BM flipped town whereas Bell would be scum here -- so scum!Noraabear being concerned with the town!soft but ignoring the scum!claim is backwards.]

This isn't what I am saying, I am saying that if you are concerned about eliminating PRs you should be consistent with that, and Noraa isn't.

I trust hectic with my soul and vote.

-nornor

you're the best noraa
you just need to convince gloria to get your vote back on Bell at some point

T^T im spamming her with polar bear gifs. I will convince her with my expertly persuasive arguments.
A sneak peek at what the hydra pt looks like(not copy pasted cuz that not allowed):
G: Bad Noraa
N: *sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiffle*
G: No
N: BUT BUT HECTIC MY SOUL MASON
G: No
N: *polar bear gif*
G: No
N: *gif of baby crying*
G: No
N: pwease
G: No

She's a tuff cookie
I'll get those voting permissions back someday Hectic wait for me

-nornor

[Polar Bear Express]

AGH how many pages did y'all spam?!

Me over here finally understanding Ircher's pain.

Ketchup timeeeeee >:(

-nornor

[Double the Trouble]

way to go Gloria head

[Bell]

Dunstral moves on to Bake which is consistent with his anti-talk to flavor policy. It's kind of easy, but I'm guilty of following on it because I had enough of that from SpongeBob, got crap for it. Not sorry. It's difficult to impossible to know what he made of the interactions around NK15 around this point. Other than that he made no moves there.

Spiffeh honestly sounds fine in 846.

856 sad face if town.

[Bell]

Good morning to you all. I'm not going to overspeculate, but I'm going to at least assume scum didn't go crazy with their role picks. I'm VT which means I'm just along for the ride this game. Flave's got his team he wants, Pooky his team of Masons he wants, other peeps got some juicy powerz probably, and then me... stuck in the middle twiddlin' my thumbs.

if ur town what r u actually doing
because if ur town ur just making it a tiny bit easier to shoot any PRs or masons if Pooky decided he wanted any.

K, I'm detective.
N1 I investigated Toog who killed no one.
Good job everyone.
Good job.

Hol up y'all, what is the chance that there are two detectives in this game?
With this many players is that possible?
I don't really deal with too much setup spec and my modded games are nuts so I have no reference for tamer games.

Uh, no.