revO emaG - TENET

[Firebringer]

I try so hard to be nice and cutesy and Noraa and what I get is just a shit load of people calling me confscum.

ur first mistke was being nice

[skitter30]

hey skitter u know i know before when i was scum faking scumreads on u u were extremely interested in the reasoning behind the read. Which is a theme i think in ur town games. Yet here u seem more interested in arguing what is/not of ur scum game than of reasoning behind peoples read of u.

Comment?

Eh i do both, i'm very interested in reads on me either way, and where they came from. I also tend to bicker abt how my scum (or town tbf) game is represented, esp if i feel it's inaccurate

Like the quibbling over incorrect reads comes from the same place as inaccurate depictions of my scumgame, i like when people actualky read me right for the right reasons

[Deacon Blues]

bork's...also less trusting in general.

we can just call this "not as good at reading people"

-b

[Firebringer]

hey skitter u know i know before when i was scum faking scumreads on u u were extremely interested in the reasoning behind the read. Which is a theme i think in ur town games. Yet here u seem more interested in arguing what is/not of ur scum game than of reasoning behind peoples read of u.

Comment?

Eh i do both, i'm very interested in reads on me either way, and where they came from. I also tend to bicker abt how my scum (or town tbf) game is represented, esp if i feel it's inaccurate

Like the quibbling over incorrect reads comes from the same place as inaccurate depictions of my scumgame, i like when people actualky read me right for the right reasons

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

[Deacon Blues]

for the right reasons

dare i ask what those are this game

-b

[skitter30]

Thanks for the update on annie.
Idk what to do with noraa's post

[skitter30]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

[Deacon Blues]

mine and notty's reads are pretty well in sync across both threads

I want to engage your head a little in particular - you were pretty deep and introspective in IS and you had probably a better angle on bork!scum than post people. Couple strong reads?

-b

[Something_Smart]

Im sorry for making this game miserable for everyone and I should go to the dead thread for making this game toxic.

You can't go to the dead thread lol

also please stop self-voting

[Deacon Blues]

Idk what to do with noraa's post

same =/

-b

[Deacon Blues]

I don't like that this is the one post SS feels inclined to make in the past X pages

-b

[Firebringer]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

Okay, but it seems from your posts in any engagement on reads on you, you are by far more dismissive than engaging. I think this is almost objective at this point.

[Deacon Blues]

Its to a point where I can't find the motivation to stay alive in any game on site and I just wanna self hammer the moment the opportunity comes and immediately scum claim and vote myself regardless of my actual alignment.

I am straight up willing to just give you a 100% free pass for D1 at this point if we can just move on from your victim centric view

-b

[Firebringer]

@Imperium is Tenet a good movie. You never told me if it was.

[Something_Smart]

I don't like that this is the one post SS feels inclined to make in the past X pages

I'm sorry you feel that way.

[skitter30]

for the right reasons

dare i ask what those are this game

-b

- consistent softing since like my third post, which i'm unlikely to have planned nearly that far in advance or as in depth as scum. Especially my reaction to the not-second turnstyle vote (which you picked up on )
- i really never purposefully let the annie edison's wagon deflate by unvoting there, that was ridiculously ---scum for scum!me. This is the sort of thing that i get annoyed that people dont recognize as being unlikely to come from scun!me, cuz i basically never unvote as scum there

Unless i'm forgetting something i'm probably otherwise largely within my scumrange

[skitter30]

I don't like that this is the one post SS feels inclined to make in the past X pages

-b

Nai tbh

[Firebringer]

i might just leave thread eaarly tongit to go watch tenet.

[midwaybear]

Woah Imperium had a cameo in Tenet?

[skitter30]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

Okay, but it seems from your posts in any engagement on reads on you, you are by far more dismissive than engaging. I think this is almost objective at this point.

I mean i'm not trying to be? I feel like i have been trying to engage on the reads on me ...

[Firebringer]

Notsci,

I truly do love you to death - always have, always will. But while there are reads that I'm willing to trust others on and there are reads I'm willing to back off and let slide, this isn't and will never be one of them and you're not going to get me there just on trust. It's hard to read my level of confidence because I often push hard. Pushing hard on things is how you get them to happen. But this is a read that I am completely confident of and none of the half-baked theories on why she could possibly be scum moves me one millimeter. You think I'm wrong because I was wrong on Cakez D1 in Xenoblade. That's fine. Xenoblade was a fucked game for me because I basically only had the night phase to catch up on the game and then I had to scream whatever thoughts I had with complete confidence in order to be heard - I was out of my element. I was not confident in Cakez being town - I didn't have time to process a complete read there, I just wanted time to get my claws in the game after being on hiatus for 6 months. This is a different situation here. I was wrong on Spiffeh, but the confidence that I felt there isn't anything like the confidence I feel here because the way that noraaa is playing this game and has played in general isn't the way that scum play. My grasp of this game is much better than my grasp on Xenoblade because the gamestate isn't manic chaos 24/7. I am sorry that your confidence will have to take a hit here when noraaa flips town but I'm not sorry to teach respect for my townreads all over again since apparently people think I've forgotten to play the game because I made bad reads in Xenoblade.

Her town playstyle here is ABSOLUTELY suicidal. She has a wildly capable scumgame, as evidenced by games like Death Curse. Part of having a wildly capable scumgame is the ability to know what makes you townread and what makes you scumread. In Xenoblade she got caught out partially due to Cabd fear and partially due to being caught in a terrible place vis a vis the Cakez wagon, but even in an off scumgame you see she's discrediting (selective in who she OMGUSes so that she doesn't piss off everyone), you see her pushing at a variety of counterwagons to try to find a soft spot. Here she spent most of her time chewing you out in an extraordinarily one-note strategy and OMGUSing p a vast majority of the people who threw suspicion her way, earning her an ass fuck ton of enemies along the way.

Think of all the times that people told Noraaa to elaborate on her scumread of you, or anyone. Think of all the times Ffery told her to back off you and reconsider and in response she doubled down, called you a couple more names, and just kept stubbornly pushing. If you're scum trying to self-pres, is this how you approach the game? No. It's the Flavor Leaf principle - if you want to strangle him because he's being *just* *that* *fucking* *obnoxious*, he's probably town.

Think of her interactions with Cabd and unwnd. There's this:

I also want to compliment Noraa and state that I think her scum range is evolving in a similar growth pattern as mine did back in 2014.

Very disappointed in you, Cabd.
UNVOTE: Noraa

Why not? my collection of day 1 mislims definitely isn't big enough.

You made the Sakura Hana comparison? This is what a town implosion looks like to the T. This is a fucking solid interaction with someone who literally just got dunking her into the next realm in Xenoblade.

There's this.

Noraa, we a little calmer and able to talk, now?

Don't wanna talk to cabd.

She's not being extremely showy about being mad @ cabd (aka trying to pocket him with an emotional response), but she's just icing him out in a pout-y sort of way. I saw her try to shake him off in Xenoblade. I read her progression in death curse. Players don't add this much range to their scumgame so fucking quickly - it's impossible.

Let's look at unwnd interactions.

unwnd thinks im scum?!


I had the largest faith in them

Unwind is possibly the most wrong townie I’ve ever seen

Its strange and making me worried that unwnd is scum. The problem is too many people think im scum that I expect better reads from so I'll just take the L cuz apparently im playing super scummy.

Again, Noraa isn't showboating, isn't making a huge fucking deal about all of this.
It's a quiet, defeated, disappointment. It's suicidal. It's town.

I did find it weird that unwnd of all players thought I was scum here.

Unwnd had an amazing read on me in our last two games and here its just .... so far off.

After Cake's game, I had loads of respect for his play and so I expected a correct read. There was none but I couldn't really say much at the time without seeming like an OMGUSfuck so here I am voicing this opinion rn.

Notsci could be town as his reads always come off as insanely dumb when he's town too. I just hate his tunneling that is nothing based and absolutely crap.

Besides that not a single post of his pings even remotely town and Bulge avoiding thread is not a good look.

I don't have a case on scum!Notsci but I wouldn't bat an eye even if we yeet a Vig RBer Cop hybrid.

That's the level to which I don't care for Notsci's play.

This post is double because 1) you're the only person she pushed in a significant way the whole game and now she's shrugging and saying that you could be town but fuck you anyways.

But, again, she's not scum simply because her play doesn't make any fucking sense at all if scum. She's pouring a decent amount of effort into the game, but is any of it going towards her own survival? Not really, unless you think Noraa's forgotten everything she learned about playing scum from her other scumgames and have now decided to do her best to make as many enemies as possible for shits and giggles. Not really, unless Noraa solved how to deal with Cabd in literally one game.

So tl;dr, and I say this with all the love in the world so don't interpret this the wrong way, but if you hold one ounce of respect for my game like you say you do, back off. She's fucking town.

I am the Leader of Tenet.

And I am not wrong here.

[Firebringer]

do u think my characterization of u this game is inaccurate in that i dont think u actually seem very interested in peoples reasoning for reads on u.

Yes, very

Okay, but it seems from your posts in any engagement on reads on you, you are by far more dismissive than engaging. I think this is almost objective at this point.

I mean i'm not trying to be? I feel like i have been trying to engage on the reads on me ...

is something wrong in rl? ur kind of acting odd in this thread a bit.

[skitter30]

I mean i'm not trying to be? I feel like i have been trying to engage on the reads on me ...

Well besides for the ones in the other thread, i'm not really gonna have a multi-thread back and forth cuz that would be silly

[skitter30]

is something wrong in rl? ur kind of acting odd in this thread a bit.

Eh things have been meh over the past few weeks but are maybe (?) starting to look up

[SirCakez]

Ok. I have some things to say.

If Annie is town, they are hands down one of the worst players ever and I, to put it harshly, absolutely DESPISE players like this.
They think they're hot shit when they can't even read a newbie right/figure out how to read me without absolutely breaking them. Im taking out my DAMN noob card for this cuz I'm pissed.
I don't care what world you're from but in what fucking game does it ever seem like a good idea to tunnel a newbie straight off the bat?
Like you should know better than to do that considering every single game where I fucked up bad was SOLELY bc someone tunneled me for no reason.
See Mini whatever the dang number was Stuff I'm Listening to. Shea tunneled me and I died day 2 and never SRed a single scum that game.
See Mini whatever the dang number was Random Facts. BM tunneled me and I shot two town prs at night(I was 3 shot vig)
See Mini whatever the dang number was Haunted Village. Cobra tunneled me and I died day 1 with zero scum in my solve.

SERIOUSLY. WHERE IN THE FUCK and WHY IN THE FUCK would tunneling me straight off the bat EVER seem like a good idea?
This play is UTTER SHIT.
And so despicable.
Your way of reading me is BREAKING ME.

Regardless of your alignment, I seriously have no respect left for your play after this game.

If you are town, I admit I have fault. I got pissed. I got mad. But I am seriously fed up with all these shit ass mislims on me.
Each one with a half scum wagon.
Each one with some dumbasses using my own damn meta to kill town!me.
And each one of those dumbasses ending up being town anyways.

I was really upset with your play in Haunted Village and Xenoblade.

If you are scum this game, ur play has been absolutely FILTHY. Extremely dishonorable and dirty play.
If you are town, I am extremely disappointed and angry.

I am terribly pissed with how this game has treated me giving me not a single opportunity since my entrance and absolutely just breaking me down.
My town play is shit and I know it but rather than giving me time to improve, people have decided that breaking me and calling me obvscum 5 posts into the game is a good idea.

I have been so mad lately cuz of all my mislims and I don't care how much AtE I am throwing at this game in one singular post but I die day 1/2 far too often and yet NO ONE tries to understand my perspective. Instead players like Notsci think they are godly at reading me after catching scum me one time and tunnel me to fucking death.

To tell the truth, NO I never truly SRed Notsci. But I am fed up with how I am treated in games and being nice and mellow has done absolutely NOTHING for me. I just get tunneled over and over and then mislimmed again and again. I'm trying to learn but this type of shit treatment of me is just breaking me and I can't pick myself back up.

Its to a point where I can't find the motivation to stay alive in any game on site and I just wanna self hammer the moment the opportunity comes and immediately scum claim and vote myself regardless of my actual alignment.

Nowadays either my hydra buddy has to slap me every day to keep me focused or someone has gotta WK me hard for me to even have the motivation to stay alive in a stupid ass game.

Notsci, I want to tell you that I am extremely upset with your play and think it has made my time in this game absolutely miserable and regardless of your alignment I hope you think twice before you decide to break someone like this again.

I try so hard to be nice and cutesy and Noraa and what I get is just a shit load of people calling me confscum.

I don't deserve this and I am extremely mad.

This game isn't even that terrible but the build up of my mislims has reached a max and the explosion came to this game.

Im sorry for making this game miserable for everyone and I should go to the dead thread for making this game toxic.

UNVOTE: Noraa

Please calm down