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Post Post #4425 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:11 pm

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In post 4422, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4420, Isis wrote:
In post 4411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I would never shoot isis if I was scum and she was town
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she would kill me though

she loves hurting me
I love hurting Hopkirk more
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Post Post #4426 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:12 pm

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In post 4423, team rocket queen wrote:to re-clarify, i possibly did not correctly understand the plan, as pooky did say something about unlocking that i did not interpret to mean there would be a code that i would know to show the town that pooky was creating fake suspicion
it's probably my fault for not explaining clearer.

I did not go further into detail of the plan because you rejected it :/
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Post Post #4427 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 4425, Isis wrote:I love hurting Hopkirk more
hurtful towards me
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Post Post #4428 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 4415, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I told her I would shade her so people would think I'd be willing to vote her, so she won't be nightkilled and we end up in a f3 in which the bad guy expects me to vote for Jessie. I would then not vote for her instead, to flip the tables on that bad guy.

I was going to put a hidden message in the shading that she would be able to unlock to show that the shade was fake in the event I died instead of continuing on to f3.

She said she didn't want to do this plan.
I don’t understand this at all? Ydrasse thinks I’m the most logical NK. I don’t like this anymore than Jessie because it kind’ve makes me wonder if your plan is to get me NK’d? Is it?
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Post Post #4429 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:13 pm

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In post 4417, Isis wrote:
In post 4405, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 4404, team rocket queen wrote:i think the conspirators win condition is probably to separate us. and i am worried about final three.
so when isis starts the day with jessie is not town, or pooky says in the pt during the night that they will create suspicion of me in order to get me alive into the next day phase, this is very suspicious
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felt like you saying i was a probable conspirator was more aimed towards making others suspicious or gauging their suspicions than it was based in a belief you had
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Post Post #4430 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:14 pm

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if we miss today, the most townie player will get NK'd

that makes sense right?
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Post Post #4431 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:16 pm

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Ydrasse is probably the sturdiest UTR, right? Certainly for me.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #4432 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:16 pm

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In post 4428, Gloria Cleary wrote:I don’t like this anymore than Jessie because it kind’ve makes me wonder if your plan is to get me NK’d? Is it?
from my point of view if you are nightkilled it is best situation because ydrasse is basically confirmed to me, so me/ydrasse/anyone is always a town win as long as ydrasse does not vote for me
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Post Post #4433 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 4432, team rocket queen wrote:from my point of view if you are nightkilled it is best situation because ydrasse is basically confirmed to me, so me/ydrasse/anyone is always a town win as long as ydrasse does not vote for me
and from your point of view i am probably the best nightkill for the same reason
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Post Post #4434 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:17 pm

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In post 4416, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 4415, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I was going to put a hidden message in the shading that she would be able to unlock to show that the shade was fake in the event I died instead of continuing on to f3.
this part of the plan was never mentioned, to clarify
@Pooky, in what world would you be the NK here? I think last night I agreed with Ydrasse it would be me but now I think it would probably be Ydrasee.
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Post Post #4435 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:17 pm

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In the world where we don't show our cards to the killer?
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Post Post #4436 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:18 pm

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lol
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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Post Post #4437 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:19 pm

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i mean its probly too late now >_>
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Post Post #4438 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:19 pm

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I wish the people who made me laugh the most were always town.

.. on second thought, I've never tested that hypothesis, maybe it's true?
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Post Post #4439 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 4435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In the world where we don't show our cards to the killer?
we cannot do this as it also stops us from showing our cards to eachother.
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Post Post #4440 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:19 pm

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In post 4422, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4420, Isis wrote:
In post 4411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:I would never shoot isis if I was scum and she was town
:dead:
she would kill me though

she loves hurting me
Dafuq? Are you seriously suggesting scum!Isis would gamethrow? Like that would be beyond stupid.
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Post Post #4441 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:20 pm

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Isis if you're town we probably lose this game :/
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Post Post #4442 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:20 pm

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In post 4440, Gloria Cleary wrote:Dafuq? Are you seriously suggesting scum!Isis would gamethrow? Like that would be beyond stupid.
that is a joke Gloria :3

Scum!Isis would always make the optimal play.

but she would enjoy hurting me for fun
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Post Post #4443 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:21 pm

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In post 4439, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 4435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In the world where we don't show our cards to the killer?
we cannot do this as it also stops us from showing our cards to eachother.
That's why I suggested keeping it in the PT and using a hidden doublespeak code.
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Post Post #4444 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:22 pm

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One major sticking point I used to harp on a lot way back when was how obfuscating your townreads was a powerful strategy and how you shouldn't do readslists because it helps mafia more than town.

I don't know that it's actually sustainable in the current meta where people townread eachother's townreading and solve games that way, but it was true back then, I swear

pedit: No, Jessie, I do think there's a real mafia philosophy where you discuss the bottom half of your readslists, use that to read eachother, then keep how you feel about the top half of your readslist secret. Back in 2008 townreading was rare and scumreading was super common so you could discard a very small fraction of your play to accomplish this.
"Let us say that you are right and there are two worlds. How much, then, is this 'other world' worth to you? What do you have there that you do not have here? Money? Power? Something worth causing the prince so much pain for?'"
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"What? Nothing? You would make the prince suffer over... nothing?"
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Post Post #4445 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:23 pm

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In post 4430, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:if we miss today, the most townie player will get NK'd

that makes sense right?
Which is Ydrasse but fypov, that obviously should be me.
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Post Post #4446 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:23 pm

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how did we never play together if you played in 2008?
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Post Post #4447 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:25 pm

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In post 4444, Isis wrote:No, Jessie, I do think there's a real mafia philosophy where you discuss the bottom half of your readslists, use that to read eachother, then keep how you feel about the top half of your readslist secret. Back in 2008 townreading was rare and scumreading was super common so you could discard a very small fraction of your play to accomplish this.
perhaps when there are more than five living players, i could see this being reasonable though i'd likely disagree. haven't previously thought about this at length so i don't know for sure.
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Post Post #4448 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:25 pm

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In post 4432, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 4428, Gloria Cleary wrote:I don’t like this anymore than Jessie because it kind’ve makes me wonder if your plan is to get me NK’d? Is it?
from my point of view if you are nightkilled it is best situation because ydrasse is basically confirmed to me, so me/ydrasse/anyone is always a town win as long as ydrasse does not vote for me
Why is my being NK’d best? I’m really not following any of this.
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Post Post #4449 (ISO) » Sun Dec 20, 2020 6:26 pm

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In post 4443, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 4439, team rocket queen wrote:
In post 4435, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:In the world where we don't show our cards to the killer?
we cannot do this as it also stops us from showing our cards to eachother.
That's why I suggested keeping it in the PT and using a hidden doublespeak code.
but then i would have to trust you and show my cards to you. and if i don't trust you and only show my cards to you this seems to have some built-in issues.

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