Open 802: Jungle Oligarchy [Game Over]

[Titus]

titus do i look like i know how to play this dumb game the answer is no no i do not.

@titus, what do you think, how likely is iv to be not of the town?

can you pls do this thing

I'd say 75/25 scum to town.

[Datisi]

although still heavily Datisi focused

is this

a problem

[VP Baltar]

although still heavily Datisi focused

is this

a problem

Yeah, a bit. He seems to really find repeated ways to call you town, which makes me feel like he wants to get on your good side I guess

[DeasVail]

UNVOTE: Klyne
VOTE: VP Baltar

Let's make this day wild

[DeasVail]

actually that might be controversial right now

I think this is best

UNVOTE: VP Baltar
VOTE: MURDERCAT

[iamausername]

VOTE: Murdercat.

VOTE: MURDERCAT

[innocentvillager]

Datisi u still think I’m scum?

[innocentvillager]

I will catch up the remaining amt today especially since apparently Titus has done a lot of stuff since I last stopped reading

goal rn honestly is just to not get miselimd, but if I do so, so be it

[Datisi]

why should i specifically not think you're scum

[innocentvillager]

I guess the question is, does IV scum skim the full game when there is a likely yeet on them and only two days to switch. I would not spend that time as scum, but maybe that's me. His thoughts in his catch up seem genuine enough, although still heavily Datisi focused.

tbh I might as scum too at least try to reread but I doubt I would be able to come up with as much content. It’s usually fairly obvious when I am town because my scumrange is pretty limited

Datisi focused because I feel most comfortable with that slot and they’re very streamy when they post and it’s easier for me to interact with him, so probs NAI

[innocentvillager]

you wanted some content from my slot and I gave you some, do you have thoughts about it or is it just one big NAI catchup so you feel comfortable lolwagoning me

am I independently scummy or is it just plus that’s scummy? do you feel good about wagoning me or are you seriously considering other alternatives?

[innocentvillager]

oh fuck

im busier than expected today at work so idk if i can fully catchup

i promise that's real regardless of my alignment

[Datisi]

what have you done here that you wouldn't do as scum

[innocentvillager]

i wouldn't townspew as scum

[innocentvillager]

seriously tho i doubt im this open streamy and earnest as scum

and i think it's all very consistent with town!me just doing whatever they can to obvtown and not as consistent with scum!me doing some weird last ditch gambit

u know i dont like posting in main thread as scm

[innocentvillager]

It's almost so bad it makes me think he could be town....

i lowkey feel this and don't know how to feel about that

I think its desperation but not exactly town motivated. There's a chance it could be.

you're right that my play is desperation to some degree

i repped into a slot about to be elimmed and obviously in a setup with lots of scum eliminating confirmed town is horrendous for our wincon

the best thing for me to do here is to show you i am town by being as open and genuine as i can, which i can do because i am a player with horrendous scum meta

why is it more likely to be scum motivated?

[innocentvillager]

plus wasn't even scummy but seriously if you're on this wagon, at least make it clear that you scumread me, and aren't hedging yourself with some shitty "oh yeah plus gave up hurr durr so replacement is probscum"

[innocentvillager]

^ that was to everyone on my wagon not anyone in particular lol.

[innocentvillager]

although still heavily Datisi focused

is this

a problem

Yeah, a bit. He seems to really find repeated ways to call you town, which makes me feel like he wants to get on your good side I guess

oh I literally did this exact thing in 2180 too when I pegged Datisi as town

I’m not as sure here because it’s multiball but hopefully Datisi will come around on me

[clidd]

Hum.

[clidd]

Ahsoka townlean, entrance and reasoning gave me a strong impression of genuineness.

IV null, I feel that he is more focused on survival than necessarily scumhunting. Appeal to empathy and self-visualization can come from both alignments. Nothing extraordinary about the comments he made during the catch up. After looking at the Plus games in more detail, I believe that the current game is more aligned with his towngame, although I still have the impression that the possible similarity of tells between minimegabyte (predecessor of plus) and bm (predecessor of galaxi) is suggestively an indicator that the slot is scum. Per play, too, the prevailing impression (analyzing regardless of meta) is that the last set of Plus posts are closer to an apathetic scum mentality. It is not difficult for scum!Plus to simulate intense disconnection with the game.

I am feeling some small negative pings from Username and VP, but nothing so relevant to the point of being discussed. My reads on both slots still remain the same.

Titus went into a more "resolutive" mode and I liked what I saw so far, but I'll wait to see what else happens.

Klyne has been steadily falling from the towny area in recent posts. DV has taken a more null-scummy stance.

Datisi is a solid townread. Bulge fell to null. MC has not changed.

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In my mind, these are the pictures:

Town

MC | Datisi
Username
VP | Ahsoka

Null

Klyne | Bulge

BoP

Titus

Null-scum

DV

Scum

IV

[innocentvillager]

IV null, I feel that he is more focused on survival than necessarily scumhunting

of course i am and ive even said this many times! im literally first on the chopping block and eliminating a townie when there are 4 scum left is horrendous for town

[clidd]

I believe that I am not able to effectively establish partnerships between slots, considering that my view on "one slot defending another" is different.

I also have some time constraints, so my participation in fluid conversations will probably not be constant.

[clidd]

IV null, I feel that he is more focused on survival than necessarily scumhunting

of course i am and ive even said this many times! im literally first on the chopping block and eliminating a townie when there are 4 scum left is horrendous for town

Yes, but this level of concern does not seem natural to me.

If you are town and gets eliminated, it is our fault for not being able to evaluate you correctly, not yours, as long as you try to apply your own scumhunting and offer reads, without acting scummy on purpose.

[innocentvillager]

IV null, I feel that he is more focused on survival than necessarily scumhunting. Appeal to empathy and self-visualization can come from both alignments. Nothing extraordinary about the comments he made during the catch up.

fine, you don't know me, you think my flailing is null, fine

After looking at the Plus games in more detail, I believe that the current game is more aligned with his towngame

so + is +town, gotcha

, although I still have the impression that the possible similarity of tells between minimegabyte (predecessor of plus) and bm (predecessor of galaxi) is suggestively an indicator that the slot is scum.

minimegabyte?? what?? they didn't even post in this game (plus replaced like pregame or smething)??? i have no idea what this means

Per play, too, the prevailing impression (analyzing regardless of meta) is that the last set of Plus posts are closer to an apathetic scum mentality. It is not difficult for scum!Plus to simulate intense disconnection with the game

this feels like your only real point against me? the whole game was apathetic and plus cited a real reason for the apathy (covid, and what satanic person fakes covid for a mafia game), also apathy alone isn't really that scummy, especially when you've been reading plus as his towngame and plus has given up before as town?

IV null, I feel that he is more focused on survival than necessarily scumhunting

of course i am and ive even said this many times! im literally first on the chopping block and eliminating a townie when there are 4 scum left is horrendous for town

Yes, but this level of concern does not seem natural to me.

If you are town and gets eliminated, it is our fault for not being able to evaluate you correctly, not yours, as long as you try to apply your own scumhunting and offer reads, without acting scummy on purpose.

oh okay, so you do scumread me because you think my level of concern over my elimination is unnatural.

i don't care who's fault it is, or at least i tried to stop caring about that shit. i play almost solely to win these days not to tout about how right or wrong i was. i don't get any pleasure in letting town miselim me, lose, and say "hahahaha i was town idiots". I offered some reads and ill continue to do so over the course of this game but deadline is coming real close so im prioritizing just getting any thought i have out because that's the easiest way i can be open and townspew and get you guys toward eliminating someone who has some chance at flipping scum.