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[Hench Princesses]

Midwaybear in inverted is town and whoever keeps pushing there is scum, peta or whoever idr

Also 39 was page in other thread

I'm preflipping skitter as red now, I'm done second guessing now that I've read more in context

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[Spiffeh]

Muffin I did not have Bell scummy by play whatsoever before the crumb fiasco occurred

Since then he has exhibited some behaviors I am not thrilled with

I think it would have to be a huge coincidence that Bell ACCIDENTALLY crumbed the role he happened to be multiple times. I obviously don't think it's the huge smoking gun that Cabd and company do, but I think that this is something worth keeping in mind

I've already explained why I highly doubt watcher/IC/doctor combo can function in one thread.

I really despise how he came for daring to consider that he could be scum (mainly 4411 and 4495). I understand trying to read people based on how they interact with your wagon but acting like it was proposterous that my read on him may fluctuate given recent events doesn't sit well with me

All of this on its own I would probably ignore but especially given my lack of confident scum reads all of it combined is enough to demote Bell from his original standing in my reads list

I would like to ISO Titus today for similar reasons

[Spiffeh]

I have decided that petapan is my favorite player from the other thread

[Gypyx]

I think it would have to be a huge coincidence that Bell ACCIDENTALLY crumbed the role he happened to be multiple times. I obviously don't think it's the huge smoking gun that Cabd and company do, but I think that this is something worth keeping in mind

yeah but like, why is it coming from scum?

[Spiffeh]

If you read the rest of my post I think you'll answer your own question

[Gypyx]

well no, that's why i'm asking lol

[Hench Princesses]

I don't see where ns obvtowned, ns still seems pretty null in terms of individual play, I'm mostly townreading bulge posts

Not as helpful as I thought although I feel stronger on skitter scum now

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[Annie Edison]

That’s where nachotammy got theirs

Bork explains how to read me at some point too. It’s most likely a playstyle issue.

[Hench Princesses]

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[Hench Princesses]

Brian do you think titus typically does outlandish things as scum to mirror her townplay? Wouldn't that reauire her to see her own play as outlandish, which may be a commonplace, but I'm not sure is something she internalizes?

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[Annie Edison]

Brian I’ll read that wall more in depth when I get time later

Probably while we drink pina coladas

[Hench Princesses]

Irt to the 1300s, you don't think asking for pushback may have been looking to see who would engage her thoughts in this thread? I

Sorry reacting to your wall piecemeal

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[Brian Skies]

Brian do you think titus typically does outlandish things as scum to mirror her townplay? Wouldn't that reauire her to see her own play as outlandish, which may be a commonplace, but I'm not sure is something she internalizes?

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I know she's been accused of trying to do it as scum before.

There's a reason why she has the title that she has.

[Hench Princesses]

I almost townread the cogdis in 2400 lol

But the sheep on scorpia I'd like to hear more on, especially since titus kinda moved back to you iirc without her thoughts on muffin ever being too clear

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[Brian Skies]

Irt to the 1300s, you don't think asking for pushback may have been looking to see who would engage her thoughts in this thread? I

A lot of these things are not bad in isolation. Like it it were just one thing, I wouldn't be that confident in voting her. But when looking at her overall play (as well as her reactive push to me today after I voted her), I feel like it makes a decent amount of sense that she's just scum here.

[Hench Princesses]

I'm inclined to agree that titus's recent posting is less townie than her early game. do you think her skitter/lld reads are tmi then? I still think her early game is pretty townie ftr

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[Brian Skies]

I don't think Titus' early game was townish and I don't know why you get that impression unless you just think Skitter/LLD are/were scummy.

But if this is the townblocking thread, she would need to solidify her position here anyway.

[Brian Skies]

Her sheeping your Muffin-case also wasn't great and I'm pretty sure never explained either.

[Hench Princesses]

I do think lld/skitter are/were scummy. I think it is almost impossible for skitter to be as aggressively wrong about as many things as she has been this game.

But yeah I should let titus respond to your wall.

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[Brian Skies]

I mean, she hasn't even explained how there's a connection between the Pooky turnstile and myself. Not really sure what you'd expect her to say to my wall.

I want to know your opinions of it as it is now.

[SirCakez]

Elimination Votecount 2.10

Bell (3) - Dunnstral, Annie Edison, Spiffeh
Titus (2) - Brian Skies, Gypyx
Brian Skies (1) - Titus
Gypyx (1) - Bell

Not voting (2) - zMuffinMan, Hench Princesses

(expired on 2021-01-04 12:54:00) remain until day end

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to reach a majority.

Bell is V/LA through Tuesday.

[Brian Skies]

I do think lld/skitter are/were scummy. I think it is almost impossible for skitter to be as aggressively wrong about as many things as she has been this game.

But yeah I should let titus respond to your wall.

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If you think her pushes against LLD/Skitter are okay, then I want to know your opinion of her pushes being so awful in this thread.

[Hench Princesses]

LLD can appear emotionally town as scum, in fact it's one of her selling points. I'm looking at her fight with superbowl acting as if he's newb scum coached actually playing his first game. I don't believe LLD could actually believe that because a) she doesn't miss details when engaged. Superbowl is obviously not new a1) the setup advertises complex mechanics and b) his join date. LLD is also pushing semantics and threatening a tunnel. LLD is much more emotionally manipulative than that when legitimately pushing. She doesn't go straight from 0-100. She applies the screws gradually and harder until you crack.

Then there's skitter. I have an independent scumread on her. She comes in and says she townreads them both and that they could never be S V S. That seems like such an LLD thing to coach.

like is there a world this is a double cross-bus or is it more likely titus is just onto something that there's scum in that pairing?

Tammy Titus
A hydra, Bell

unwnd, zmuffin, HP, Pooky - Null Town

Spiffeh - Null (would be null town based on play but 613 has him townreading too many of my scumreads), 773 is quite redeeming though

Brian Shelly A50
Gypyx (votes me, asks if people want me... no one mentions me either way, he moves his vote then forgets he moved it... odd exchange) backup scum read

There we go. Those are my reads after finishing this thread.

this reads list looks weird to me actually

but brian, real talk, let's take this to spoilers

Spoiler:

It’s what we used to do all the time.

Maybe it was one way. I remember butting heads with you more than any other player.

Butting heads with =/= tunnelling.

Also, I think I was still married the last time we played together. Shit changed me and it impacts how I play.

Thanks guys.

The whole thing taught me a fair amount about who is controlling me and what controlling someone actually looks like. That made it easier to work with my friends, even if we disagree.

Now, the hardest part is finding my friends before I get nightkilled.

I'm very worried this is outside her range of emotional AtE as scum. Do you see why I'd have that worry?

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[Hench Princesses]

If you think her pushes against LLD/Skitter are okay, then I want to know your opinion of her pushes being so awful in this thread.

I have theories but I'd rather hear her actual reasons

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[Brian Skies]

I'm very worried this is outside her range of emotional AtE as scum. Do you see why I'd have that worry?

No.