Mini Normal 2187: PIFiMDM [game over!]

[Lunar Martian]

VOTE: AGar

[Gamma Emerald]

why

[Lunar Martian]

why

His reads seem backwards and he's being overly aggressive. Feels like he's trying to bully his way into having people think he's Town.

[Datisi]

Prodding Kazyan.

[Datisi]

Prodding 2ndchosen1.

[Elements]

VOTE: AGar

ooo yes i can get behind this
VOTE: agar

[Datisi]

Prodding Hayker.

[Kazyan]

Since Day 1 is getting close to done, I guess we should pick a wagon and stick with it. Votes are really split, though. The top voted people are Alchemist, me, and Penguin, so I guess decide which one of us you want gone. Unless one of the other pushes look most helpful.

[PenguinPower]

Not quite correct. You and Alchemist are leading at this point with three votes. Agar and I are tied at two votes.

I do agree we need to consolidate wagons given the deadline.

[2ndchosen1]

I'm awake mod, I swear

Whether Ben was hiding AND not interested or just not interested is still a bit iffy to me. I have to admit that LM has a point on the aggressiveness, Agar comes in and seems to immediately know exactly who is best to Wagon pointing to some posts that don't entirely give scum indictative to me on D1. While I'll acknowledge some of the reads seem to fit for me, like hayker. Others seem off to me, like GE and Kazyan.

Could you expand on those reads? I acknowledge they are your D1 reads and subject to change but I'm wondering what got you to such a list.

I'm looking forward to the promised hayker expansion too.

[Lunar Martian]

I'm awake mod, I swear

Whether Ben was hiding AND not interested or just not interested is still a bit iffy to me. I have to admit that LM has a point on the aggressiveness, Agar comes in and seems to immediately know exactly who is best to Wagon pointing to some posts that don't entirely give scum indictative to me on D1. While I'll acknowledge some of the reads seem to fit for me, like hayker. Others seem off to me, like GE and Kazyan.

Could you expand on those reads? I acknowledge they are your D1 reads and subject to change but I'm wondering what got you to such a list.

I'm looking forward to the promised hayker expansion too.

This is directed at Agar right, not at me?

[2ndchosen1]

yeah sorry that wasnt clear LM

[AGar]

I overslept but bigger case coming. In the meantime, have a meme.

[AGar]

Hayker is scum

How?

Take a look at their 12 post ISO. It'll take you all of 5 minutes.

The only attempt to figure anything out beyond dusting the surface is exclusively focused on Zito (457, 547 [look at that pseudosymmetry!]), using 11 year old meta in 457 and then flat out selling mistruths in 547. I like Zito. I do not want to yeet Zito, both because he is giving me some town vibes here and also because I like Zito. But Zito has not "come out swinging hard." I haven't felt any pressure being applied behind his votes - he's parked on Kayzan right now despite not mentioning him since post 301 on 12/28. I see his town mindset based on some other things, but 547 is straight up scum telling they know too much and fucking up when they need to justify a TR. They tried to feign some interest in Alchemist in 151 but never followed it up.

177 and 249 are opportunistic attempts to sway something to Elements while ignoring Elements' declaration that they were going to essentially troll a bit at the start of the game. Elements re-explains the joke in 266, and then they switch to "active lurking" in 268 to justify their continued stay. 373 is another fun question with no follow up, nor response to Elements's reply. They asked on Tuesday. It's Saturday.

The rest is background fluff meant not to rock the boat - nothing in 314, 319, and 422 does anything to move the game forward, to suss out Elements alignment more, or to branch to another read. Over the course of 24 hours they popped in 4 (373 was in this window and I've already touched on that) posts that could have just been posts of a 404'd image and it would've been the same contribution as them.

[Dannflor]

gamma might be town

[Dannflor]

agar wagon is terrible

I really do not want to kill there today

[Dannflor]

hayker maybe? they need to post more

I would prefer in alchemist/papa Z tbh

[Lunar Martian]

I think I figured something out and won't be voting for Papa today. I'd go for alchemist, and AGar is actually making sense about Hayker too. Want to see more from Hayker before I decide. For now I'll vote alchemist.
VOTE: alchemist

[Elements]

VOTE: Alshemist

[Dannflor]

mafia are gonna regret trying to kill meeeeee

[Kazyan]

VOTE: Hayker

AGar's "screw Hayker" masterpost is convincing. I basically have no idea what Hayker's broader reads are.

Willing to switch to Alchemist at a moment's notice, though.

[NoPowerOverMe]

What's the case on Alchemist?

[Dannflor]

what's your read on alchemist and why?

[NoPowerOverMe]

I was townreading them but it's not a strong townread.

[NoPowerOverMe]

Probably mostly because they were scum in a previous game I played with them and I figured I could sort them later. I guess that's not a good reason but I don't really see the scumcase either.